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On 1/16/2021 at 1:59 PM, TSOL said:

 

 

Please don't tell me you are so naive to think that election results have not been manipulated throughout the world throughout history 

 

As far as specific media outlets... Blech to that. They're all just like pollution. More spin than fact look no further than the coverage of the far more destructive BLM protests vs the capitol hill melee that was 100% sparked by paid european professional riot inciters. 

 

 

Please do tell us you are not so naive to think there was wide spread and significant manipulation in the election ....as opposed to minor clerical errors. Please tell us you have come here with more than just overplayed and over-rehearsed one liners.  
 

We will hang up and listen.

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58 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Please do tell us you are not so naive to think there was wide spread and significant manipulation in the election ....as opposed to minor clerical errors. Please tell us you have come here with more than just overplayed and over-rehearsed one liners.  
 

We will hang up and listen.

 

 

I just want the America I grew up believing in back. Unfortunately, I think that ship has sailed. The country is filled with people like this now 👆

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28 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

I just want the America I grew up believing in back. Unfortunately, I think that ship has sailed. The country is filled with people like this now 👆


Can you define "the America you grew up believing in" in any more detail? I'm legitimately curious what you mean by this.

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2 minutes ago, Logic said:


Can you define "the America you grew up believing in" in any more detail? I'm legitimately curious what you mean by this.

 

 

You know, when we were little and we were told, and we believed this was the greatest country in the world. The land of opportunity. Where you could do whatever you wanted for a living if you worked hard enough. Where a blue collar person could earn enough money for a little house a car, a family. You know, 40+50 years ago when unions were strong and factory workers earned double what the are making now. 

 

When we had really good/great men as leaders of the country. 

 

The Dems in the last 20 years have sold us out for short term economic gain. 

 

Guys like Clinton and obama. Those popular guys. Sure, they had great smiles, and they were cool. Oh man were they smooth and cool but the begining of the wholesale of america was under Clinton (NAFTA) 

 

And under obama, that's when a ton of our agriculture was sold to China. You know about the meat processing plants and farms right? 

 

I could go on about when we used to invent and innovate if you wish. Back when our education system wasn't ranked 27th in the world. You know my elementary school aged kids haven't been in a classroom in nearly a year, that should do wonders for the new generation of America. 

 

I don't see things going in a good direction right now, and yeah, trump is an epic fail. But he got elected because people are sick of career polititions selling us down the river. 

 

Well, now everyone rejoice because now we have a glorious white knight career politition to lead us out of the dark ages that the boogey man cast us into. 

 

All apologies if I seem cynical. 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, TSOL said:

All apologies if I seem cynical

It's ok b.c Trump fed your feeble mind with lies and corruption. You are brainwashed and we are here to help. The terrorist Trump will not hurt you again.

 

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10 minutes ago, TBBills said:

It's ok b.c Trump fed your feeble mind with lies and corruption. You are brainwashed and we are here to help. The terrorist Trump will not hurt you again.

 

 

 

The next intelligent post YOU make will be your first 

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9 hours ago, TSOL said:

 

 

The next intelligent post YOU make will be your first 

Yes, been waiting for your first that isn't filled with brainwashed bull####.

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15 hours ago, TSOL said:

 

 

You know, when we were little and we were told, and we believed this was the greatest country in the world. The land of opportunity. Where you could do whatever you wanted for a living if you worked hard enough. Where a blue collar person could earn enough money for a little house a car, a family. You know, 40+50 years ago when unions were strong and factory workers earned double what the are making now. 

 

When we had really good/great men as leaders of the country. 

 

The Dems in the last 20 years have sold us out for short term economic gain. 

 

Guys like Clinton and obama. Those popular guys. Sure, they had great smiles, and they were cool. Oh man were they smooth and cool but the begining of the wholesale of america was under Clinton (NAFTA) 

 

And under obama, that's when a ton of our agriculture was sold to China. You know about the meat processing plants and farms right? 

 

I could go on about when we used to invent and innovate if you wish. Back when our education system wasn't ranked 27th in the world. You know my elementary school aged kids haven't been in a classroom in nearly a year, that should do wonders for the new generation of America. 

 

I don't see things going in a good direction right now, and yeah, trump is an epic fail. But he got elected because people are sick of career polititions selling us down the river. 

 

Well, now everyone rejoice because now we have a glorious white knight career politition to lead us out of the dark ages that the boogey man cast us into. 

 

All apologies if I seem cynical. 

 

 



Thanks for the response. I appreciate your perspective.

The bolded are statements that I agree with.

I find that, when it comes to what we all want, there are often more commonalities than most would admit.

I, too, want to live in a country where working 40 hours means you can afford a home and a car and health insurance. I, too, want to live in a country with a strong education system. I want to live in a country where people aren't dying in the street because they have to choose between insulin and their next meal.

I vehemently disagree with your assertion that democrats are somehow to blame for the ills of America. I believe it's quite clear which side has been the enemy of health care, of living wages, and of education, and it's not the left. It saddens and confounds me that anyone could actually think that the modern GOP cares anything about the values you mentioned, the hopes that you have. It seems quite clear that, while neither side is perfect, one side has fought for the common American far, FAR more than the other.  

Nevertheless, despite the fact that you blame the evils on "the evil democrats" while I think that's preposterous and silly....again, the fact remains that many Americans want many of the same things. You and I want many of the same things. We may disagree on the best way to achieve these ends.

Let's give the new guy a chance and see what happens. 

 

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37 minutes ago, Logic said:



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Let's give the new guy a chance and see what happens. 

 

New guy? He has been in politics for almost half a century. New guy? He has done nothing in all of that time except line his pockets, his and his family.  He is now just a puppet for the liberal, socialist, left and they will cut his strings soon enough to pave way for their agenda. I almost feel sorry for the "new guy".

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1 minute ago, wnyguy said:

New guy? He has been in politics for almost half a century. New guy? He has done nothing in all of that time except line his pockets, his and his family.  He is now just a puppet for the liberal, socialist, left and they will cut his strings soon enough to pave way for their agenda. I almost feel sorry for the "new guy".

 

The Projection is STRONG in this one.

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8 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

New guy? He has been in politics for almost half a century. New guy? He has done nothing in all of that time except line his pockets, his and his family.  He is now just a puppet for the liberal, socialist, left and they will cut his strings soon enough to pave way for their agenda. I almost feel sorry for the "new guy".


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