trump supporters

[TBBills]

2 minutes ago, Nineforty said:

you are not a terrorist.

 

but you own some responsibility. for the rest of your ***** life.   I hope your grandkids piss on your grave in disgust. 

Not only that but he spreads misinformation on Covid-19. This guy is just pure garbage when it comes to this *****. 

 

I expect no less from a mindless horde of Trump.

[Bad Things]

As an expat living overseas, I couldn't be more embarrassed.

[TBBills]

Trump will carry this legacy of shame for however long he is alive, his family will always be a ***** stain on American freedom.

 

Except for Melania b.c she hates Trump also.

Edited January 6, 2021 by TBBills

[WideNine]

...and this is where the GOP turning a blind eye and riding on the coat-tails of a populist fascist purveyor of hatred and conspiracies, who openly supports forceful suppression and armed conflict over peaceful democratic processes gets us.

 

When every Trump supporter I debated on this forum said he would never take it this far and I pointed to the psychological profile of a pathological narcissist and asked what makes them think he will gracefully cede power, or will not incite violence?

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/moral-landscapes/202008/the-psychology-donald-trump

Edited January 6, 2021 by WideNine

[wnyguy]

You reap what you sow, ladies.

[Tiberius]

Is that Third Thing and DC Tom there? 

[Process]

I'm a republican,not a trump supporter. I've already had family members reach out to me just to try and rub in my face how much worse this is then the BLM and democratic protests were. 

 

Let me make it 100% clear. What's happening right now is disgusting, pathetic and embarrassing.

 

Bu don't use it as an excuse for what happened over the summer, when cities were burned, businesses were destroyed, innocent people all over the country were attacked. 

Edited January 6, 2021 by Process

[Backintheday544]

1 minute ago, Process said:

I'm a republican,not a trump supporter. I've already had family members reach out to me just to try and run in my face how much worse this is then the BLM and democratic protests were. 

 

Let me make it 100% clear. Whats happening right now is disgusting, pathetic and embarrassing.

 

Bu don't use it as an excuse for what happened over the summer, when cities were burned, businesses were destroyed, innocent people all over the country were attacked. 

No one is. These two aren’t comparable. One was a violent protest the other is violent insurrection.

[RobbRiddick]

First thing these 'passionate' protesters do is pull out their phones and start filming it. Got to make sure there's plenty of footage for their social media

[Coach Tuesday]

3 minutes ago, Process said:

I'm a republican,not a trump supporter. I've already had family members reach out to me just to try and rub in my face how much worse this is then the BLM and democratic protests were. 

 

Let me make it 100% clear. What's happening right now is disgusting, pathetic and embarrassing.

 

Bu don't use it as an excuse for what happened over the summer, when cities were burned, businesses were destroyed, innocent people all over the country were attacked. 

 

This is a coup attempt and its instigators should be tried for treason.

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Process said:

I'm a republican,not a trump supporter. I've already had family members reach out to me just to try and rub in my face how much worse this is then the BLM and democratic protests were. 

 

Let me make it 100% clear. What's happening right now is disgusting, pathetic and embarrassing.

 

Bu don't use it as an excuse for what happened over the summer, when cities were burned, businesses were destroyed, innocent people all over the country were attacked. 

And unarmed people shot and killed by police, don’t forget that 

[TBBills]

6 hours ago, Process said:

I'm a republican,not a trump supporter. I've already had family members reach out to me just to try and rub in my face how much worse this is then the BLM and democratic protests were. 

 

Let me make it 100% clear. What's happening right now is disgusting, pathetic and embarrassing.

 

Bu don't use it as an excuse for what happened over the summer, when cities were burned, businesses were destroyed, innocent people all over the country were attacked. 

The difference is those people were criminals with no push from political sides they did that themselves.

 

 

This is Trump who has been brainwashing his horde to be violent and do this very thing. This is his doing his seed he planted to destroy this country if they didn't vote him in 

Edited January 7, 2021 by TBBills

[wnyguy]

How does it feel? Reaping what you have sown?

[WideNine]

2 minutes ago, Process said:

I'm a republican,not a trump supporter. I've already had family members reach out to me just to try and rub in my face how much worse this is then the BLM and democratic protests were. 

 

Let me make it 100% clear. What's happening right now is disgusting, pathetic and embarrassing.

 

Bu don't use it as an excuse for what happened over the summer, when cities were burned, businesses were destroyed, innocent people all over the country were attacked. 

 

I live close enough to Portland to visit several times and I can tell you that the media does like sensationalizing events.

 

It was never as bad as it was made out, but I have never been a fan of the "defund the police rhetoric" and neither are business owners and folks that live in urban areas where protests and riots have become cyclical. They do want effective policing. This does not excuse the many police reforms that are needed, just that the pendulum does not have to swing to polar extremes for sane people to work out progressive, meaningful policies.

 

There were several peaceful protests where folks were playing music and barbecuing like it was a tailgate party, but there were certainly agitators, anarchists, and criminal opportunists - especially at night. So, I am pretty pragmatic in that I support local police AND the idea of transparency and policing reform too. I do not think they are mutually exclusive concepts. If there are more good cops out there than bad ones, they should embrace the ideas of body cameras and less Union leverage keeping poorly performing officers in uniform.

 

 

 

[TBBills]

Biden sticking it to Trump.

 

 

"A presidents words are powerful, no matter how good or BAD that president is"

[Motorin']

22 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

How does it feel? Reaping what you have sown?

 

And what are you stupid ***** sowing today? 

[Simon]

26 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

This is a coup attempt and its instigators should be tried for treason.

 

Slow roll the investigations and charges so these traitors can't be pardoned?

[TSOL]

Yeah cuz our current system is working so well, thanks for the six hundo unkie sam. 

 

Bezos doesn't pay a penny in taxes and boeing gets 50 billion. But hey! Heres a handful of beans for all you little people. That oughta keep ya going til the spring 

[TBBills]

Now Trump is asking for peace after all the damage was done, all the while he lies to everyone face. 

 

 

He is the face of evil.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

4 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

I live close enough to Portland to visit several times and I can tell you that the media does like sensationalizing events.

 

It was never as bad as it was made out, but I have never been a fan of the "defund the police rhetoric" and neither are business owners and folks that live in urban areas where protests and riots have become cyclical. They do want effective policing. This does not excuse the many police reforms that are needed, just that the pendulum does not have to swing to polar extremes for sane people to work out progressive, meaningful policies.

 

There were several peaceful protests where folks were playing music and barbecuing like it was a tailgate party, but there were certainly agitators, anarchists, and criminal opportunists - especially at night. So, I am pretty pragmatic in that I support local police AND the idea of transparency and policing reform too. I do not think they are mutually exclusive concepts. If there are more good cops out there than bad ones, they should embrace the ideas of body cameras and less Union leverage keeping poorly performing officers in uniform.

 

 

 

This is a good post on some levels, it's probably where most of us in the middle agree.  Personally, when taken as a whole, I view law enforcement as a whole of being guilty of systemic heroism at their best, consistently decent citizenship on the whole.  I base that primarily on the numbers--millions of fellow citizens doing the job, tens of millions of interactions each year, and stories like the officers clearing the area around the Nashville bomb at great risk to themselves. 

 

On the body camera issue, a client of mine is a police office who was talking to me about this a couple years ago.  His thought echoed what many police officers thought then--that body cameras would vindicate officers far more frequently than not, and for those that were not vindicated--that was a good thing.  His response was pretty much on point--the body camera footage was not going to reveal what the liberal left was hoping it would on a wide spread basis. 

 

 I haven't talked with him in a while, but I'm wondering what he feels now that the rules of engagement are being changed as we speak.  The Jakob Blake case comes to mind where, from the perspective of the police officer--the best course of action was actually not to respond at all. 

 

As for Portland, I don't know, I guess whether or not the protests were mostly peaceful sorta depends on whether or not you were directly impacted by the lawlessness.  

 

What we can agree on is that more training would not hurt, a clarification of the rules of engagement would make sense so that well-intentioned people would know whether or not the occupation was worth pursuing, and off-loading domestic violence calls to counselors will certain reduce the potential for officer-involved shootings.  

 

On this note:  https://dailygazette.com/2020/11/17/former-schenectady-county-jail-guard-arrested-for-attack-that-left-detainee-hospitalized/

 

I knew this young man and his family on a casual basis up until he was 20 or 21.  His family remains friendly with friends of mine.  Nice enough kid, comes from a good family (near as I can tell), and yet he apparently assaulted a prisoner in custody.  I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want this type of job for a number of reasons, but it does make me wonder how the heck he got so far off the rails as to end up in this predicament. Would all the training in the world prevent this?  I don't think so.