Big Turk Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) Sucks but it is what it is... https://www.nfl.com/news/finalists-for-pro-football-hall-of-fame-class-of-2021-revealed Edited January 6, 2021 by Big Turk 2
Buftex Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Ahhh...too bad. Would love to see both make it, but Tasker especially. 1
HOUSE Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 There is no way Peyton Manning should get in there ahead of Steve Tasker 11
Saxum Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Peyton Manning no but many of the others yes based on impact Tasker had on game.
Big74Mac Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 There are some guys on that list that should never make the hall much less be on this list. Total crime Tasker is not on this list. 3
TheBrownBear Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Hard to argue with most of the guys on that list. Maybe Richard Seymour - who I never viewed as a true game changing impact player. 1
The Jokeman Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, Big74Mac said: There are some guys on that list that should never make the hall much less be on this list. Total crime Tasker is not on this list. Why? Tasker played 169 career regular season NFL games. How many would you honestly say he alone was a game changer for? I honestly don't know but think 16 is a high estimate which is less than 10% of his career. I'm sorry he played well and maybe was arguably the best at his position but just a role player at most. I've compared him to the best career pinch hitter in the MLB who I can't name off the top of my head and pretty sure they aren't a HOFer. 1
Big Turk Posted January 6, 2021 Author Posted January 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Why? Tasker played 169 career regular season NFL games. How many would you honestly say he alone was a game changer for? I honestly don't know but think 16 is a high estimate which is less than 10% of his career. I'm sorry he played well and maybe was arguably the best at his position but just a role player at most. I've compared him to the best career pinch hitter in the MLB who I can't name off the top of my head and pretty sure they aren't a HOFer. If Ray Guy is in as the best punter ever then Tasker deserves to be in as a player who revolutionized the game and made coaches pay attention to special teams when many didn't. The HOF needs to stop creating moving targets for eligibility. 3 1
The Wiz Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Tasker said he doesn't think special teams guys should get into the HOF but I know he and everyone else would love to see it happen.
Buftex Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Just now, The Wiz said: Tasker said he doesn't think special teams guys should get into the HOF but I know he and everyone else would love to see it happen. That is just Taskers self-efacing style.
The Wiz Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Just now, Buftex said: That is just Taskers self-efacing style. I know it is, that's why I said I'm sure he and everyone else would love it if he did get in. 1
The Jokeman Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Big Turk said: If Ray Guy is in as the best punter ever then Tasker deserves to be in as a player who revolutionized the game and made coaches pay attention to special teams when many didn't. The HOF needs to stop creating moving targets for eligibility. Guy played 38 more regular season games than Tasker despite playing in seasons that were 14 games long and was part of 3 Super Bowl winning teams. Sorry he has a better resume in my eyes even as a Bills fan. Edited January 6, 2021 by The Jokeman
Big Turk Posted January 6, 2021 Author Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Guy played 38 more regular season games than Tasker despite playing in seasons that were 14 games long and was part of 3 Super Bowl winning teams. Sorry he has a better resume in my eyes even as a Bills fan. Did he revolutionize the game? Did he start coffin corner punting when everyone else just kicked it straight? Did he kick the ball super high to force a fair catch when everyone else hit line drives? So a guy who just did his job well at a relatively unheralded position has a better resume than a guy who changed how the entire position and game was played in terms of special teams and how players made the team based on their ability to do that well when they may otherwise have been out of the league? What Tasker did still resonates 30+ years after the fact and paved the way for guys like Matthew Slater and Tyler Matakevich all the other great special teams players that basically only have that role on the team. That's a hard argument for me to buy. It goes beyond what Tasker actually did on the field which was great. It effects how the entire NFL does things to this day. Edited January 6, 2021 by Big Turk
The Jokeman Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Did he revolutionize the game? Did he start coffin corner punting when everyone else just kicked it straight? Did he kick the ball super high to force a fair catch when everyone else hit line drives? So a guy who just did his job well at a relatively unheralded position has a better resume than a guy who changed how the entire position and game was played in terms of special teams and how players made the team based on their ability to do that well when they may otherwise have been out of the league? What Tasker did still resonates 30+ years after the fact and paved the way for guys like Matthew Slater and Tyler Matakevich all the other great special teams players that basically only have that role on the team. That's a hard argument for me to buy. It goes beyond what Tasker actually did on the field which was great. It effects how the entire NFL does things to this day. Different in eras played, Tasker played in the Sportscenter generation aka highlights a plenty. I'm sorry I could argue Matthew Slater as good if not better than Tasker but neither IMO are HOFers. Edited January 6, 2021 by The Jokeman
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Neither Bennett nor Tasker belong But neither do Swann or Stallworth
Big Turk Posted January 6, 2021 Author Posted January 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Different in eras played, Tasker played in the Sportscenter generation aka highlights a plenty. I'm sorry I could argue Matthew Slater as good if not better than Tasker but neither IMO are HOFers. You could but he wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for Tasker. That's the point. Slater calls Tasker "The Godfather of Special Teams" and says he wouldn't be in the league if it wasn't for Tasker. He reveres the man... Pretty sure no punter talks about Ray Guy like that. 1
MJS Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: You could but he wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for Tasker. That's the point. Slater calls Tasker "The Godfather of Special Teams" and says he wouldn't be in the league if it wasn't for Tasker. He reveres the man... Pretty sure no punter talks about Ray Guy like that. Tasker absolutely belongs. And he'll get there eventually. Might have to wait for some new voters, though.
The Jokeman Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Big Turk said: You could but he wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for Tasker. That's the point. Slater calls Tasker "The Godfather of Special Teams" and says he wouldn't be in the league if it wasn't for Tasker. He reveres the man... Pretty sure no punter talks about Ray Guy like that. And did you know who played before Tasker and caused the NFL to make a Pro Bowl spot for special teamers? I doubt it unless were a Cowboys fan. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Bates Tasker should be thanking him tbh. Edited January 6, 2021 by The Jokeman
Mark Vader Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Big74Mac said: There are some guys on that list that should never make the hall much less be on this list. Total crime Tasker is not on this list. Reggie Wayne, Ronde Barber, Jared Allen, Zach Thomas & Richard Seymour have no business being near the Hall of Fame.
T&C Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 The NFL Hall of Fame has turned into a joke just like the Rock and Roll Hall of fame.... 3
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