Thurman#1 Posted January 3, 2021 Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Hi, I appreciate your effort, but not sure what is your point. Everybody knows it is a team sport, I for sure know it. It is just fun. But to make you happy, I will edit OP. Appreciate your kindness. As to my point, it's just the obvious. QBs aren't responsible for wins or losses. Teams are. Was Rob Johnson responsible for the loss in the Music City Miscarriage of Justice? Is a QB whose team wins 7 - 0 with the score coming on a pick-six responsible for the win? No. Everyone is. Even when the QB plays lights out, he doesn't get the win. If his OL hadn't blocked well, if his receivers hadn't got open and made the catches, if his defense hadn't held the other team to that amount of points and if the STs hadn't done a great job (as the Bills STs have this year), he doesn't get the win. And yet over and over again people want to use this stat to show things about the QB. Doesn't make sense in any way. If you want to show things about Allen, look at how well he himself played. Nobody should say something like, "last second kick, it's a 35 yarder for the Fins, and the Bills line up to block it, an LBs sneaks through the line, it's blocked ... and Josh Allen wins the game, conclusively proving Josh Allen is a winner." That's what you do when you use wins as a QB stat. It really is that simple. Wins is NOT a QB stat. It is a team stat. The QB is part of the team, so he gets his share of the credit/blame, but no more. In any case, again, thanks for your consideration and kindness. It is greatly appreciated. Edited January 3, 2021 by Thurman#1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted January 10, 2021 Author Posted January 10, 2021 OP updated after beating Colts. 19 in the pocket, 12 more to go! 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted January 18, 2021 Author Posted January 18, 2021 OP updated after beating Ravens. It seems that after I started this Josh is determined to add on the list He'll get another chance on Sunday. 1 Quote
whatdrought Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/1/2021 at 1:09 PM, whatdrought said: Let’s get the Colts, Ravens, Cheifs, and Packers. Let’s go!!! Quote
No_Matter_What Posted January 19, 2021 Author Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/1/2021 at 7:09 PM, whatdrought said: Let’s get the Colts, Ravens, Cheifs, and Packers. Haha great call before the Dolphins game. 2 more to go. Quote
StHustle Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, swimtoga said: He can get up to 26 this season? That would be a crazy high number this early in his career. 1 Quote
fergie's ire Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 On 1/1/2021 at 12:57 PM, No_Matter_What said: Quarterbacks who have beaten all 32 teams: Manning, Favre, Brees Quarterbacks who have beaten 31 teams: Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Alex Smith, Kerry Collins Notable young QBs: Mahomes 23, Jackson 22 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/friv/qb-wins.htm Kerry Collins?! Quote
swimtoga Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 44 minutes ago, fergie's ire said: Kerry Collins?! I thought the same thing. Quote
That's No Moon Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, swimtoga said: I thought the same thing. He played in an NFC Championship and a Super Bowl. He was on some decent teams Quote
swimtoga Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: He played in an NFC Championship and a Super Bowl. He was on some decent teams True, he had good seasons with Carolina and The East Rutherford Short Stacks but I never in a million years would have guessed that. Quote
Protocal69 Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 On 1/1/2021 at 5:56 PM, Bray Wyatt said: Isn’t josh 1-2 against the titans? Lost his rookie year, beat them last year and lost this year ***** nvm I was thinking Texans rookie year not titans no he has betten the Titans twice. before last year he beaten the Titans twice in a row Quote
No_Matter_What Posted August 1, 2021 Author Posted August 1, 2021 3 hours ago, swimtoga said: He can get up to 26 this season? Thanks for the bump, I updated OP. I expect 24 after regular season, hopefully more. I'd save Chiefs for playoffs 5 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: Isn’t football a team game? I addressed this in OP. I know it is a team sport. This is just for fun. 1 Quote
LeGOATski Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Isn’t football a team game? 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted October 3, 2021 Author Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Updated OP after Texans win. Onto Chiefs! What I find interesting is that Lamar is already at 25 after beating Lions and Chiefs this year and on his road to 26 if Ravens beat Broncos today. Edited October 3, 2021 by No_Matter_What 1 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted October 9, 2021 Author Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, swimtoga said: #22 this weekend! A man can hope. Lamar at 26 already Mahomes at 24. And after beating Patriots last week Brady become 4th QB in history to beat all teams Edited October 9, 2021 by No_Matter_What 1 Quote
swimtoga Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 When it’s all said and done Josh will be the GOAT. Quote
No_Matter_What Posted October 11, 2021 Author Posted October 11, 2021 And there we go! At 22 after beating Chiefs. The only unbeaten team in AFC are now Browns. Next up - whole NFC South starting with Saints week 12 on Thanksgiving. 1 Quote
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