frostbitmic Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 Winning your division gets you into the playoffs as it should, whatever your record is. 1
Artem Lipatov Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 I think it could be easy and fair rule: if a division champ has losing record it’s playoffs spot goes to wild card team with winning record. Wild card team who has has winning record in strong division deserves it more than less stinkiest team in stinky division 1
without a drought Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 I think they should pick the wildcard teams out of a hat. No matter what their record is. It hardly seems like a wildcard if they are just the next best team.
blacklabel Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 I definitely feel like a team with a better record should get in over a team with a worse record but a division title. The league still wants the divisions to mean something. But in the interest of fairness, it's kinda crap that a 6-10 team might host a playoff game. If I were to change it up, I would say, fine, if you win your division you're in the playoffs but if a wild card team holds a better record than you than they get the home game.
Artem Lipatov Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 Winning division with losing record means the team already had advantage in regular season playing 6 games vs very bad teams and still couldn’t get decent record. Then they are awarded with home field advantage at playoffs. Very strange 🙃
LeGOATski Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 They could do away with divisions, for all I care. Equalize the schedules even more and the best records go to the playoffs. Part of it is the NFL wanting to preserve classic rivalries, but that's dinosaur thinking. 1
Alphadawg7 Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 7-9 Seahawks beat the Saints in the first round of the playoffs. That pretty much puts a nail in this argument for me.
LeGOATski Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 They're treating it like the world cup where you get representation from all regions/leagues, but the NFL is one region and one league. Just have two conferences and you'll still have classic intra-conference rivalries plus the overarching inter-conference rivalry. 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: 7-9 Seahawks beat the Saints in the first round of the playoffs. That pretty much puts a nail in this argument for me. Not me. Underdog stories will still happen, either way.
without a drought Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 Mathematically, with no ties, a team could be in a 4 way tie in their division at 3-13 and make the playoffs by splitting the games in the division and losing the rest. The winner would be based on strength of schedule. If ties were common then you could do the same with the division winner finishing in a 4 way tie at 0-10-6. Just lose all non division games and tie all division games. and once again winner goes by strength of schedule.
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Groin said: This is the second time over the last decade that this happened. (2010 Hawks were the last including, if memory serves, a Beast Mode run for a win.) If this is what the rules say then that's what we've got to roll with for the time being. But really it should be teams per conference rather than division. The 2014-15 Panthers won the NFC South with a 7-8-1 record. Those Panthers and the 2010 Seahawks you mentioned both won their first round playoff game after qualifying for the playoffs with a losing record. Interestingly enough the only other times a team made it to the playoffs with a losing record was 1982. Both the Browns and Lions qualified with 4-5 records in a shortened season (I'm not sure if they should really count or not). If Wasington loses and NYG win we'll have a 6-10 division winner which would be the worst win % ever to make the playoffs. 1
TheCockSportif Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: The 2014-15 Panthers won the NFC South with a 7-8-1 record. Those Panthers and the 2010 Seahawks you mentioned both won their first round playoff game after qualifying for the playoffs with a losing record. Interestingly enough the only other times a team made it to the playoffs with a losing record was 1982. Both the Browns and Lions qualified with 4-5 records in a shortened season (I'm not sure if they should really count or not). If Wasington loses and NYG win we'll have a 6-10 division winner which would be the worst win % ever to make the playoffs. Oh yeah! I forgot about that Panthers squad. So true! And I pretty much discounted everything that happened before the current divisional realignment.
Alphadawg7 Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Not me. Underdog stories will still happen, either way. Not sure what you mean by that... I was saying if a 7-9 team can enter the playoffs and beat a winning team, then that seals the case that they should be allowed in if they win their division. Your reply sounds like its agreeing with me even though you wrote "Not me." to open it, but cant tell. Either way, its a silly discussion, if you win your division you should be in IMO. I mean there are so many potential circumstances around that division winner possibly being only 7-9. Maybe a slew of injuries to critical players early in the season caused them to start slow. Its just to subjective to just flat out say no one under .500 should be allowed in. You win your division, you earn a playoff birth. And given the fact not that long ago a 7-9 team went into the playoffs and beat the Saints in the first round shows that they shouldn't just flat out be banned from the playoffs. Edited December 29, 2020 by Alphadawg7
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 4 hours ago, MPL said: I, for one, am hoping the Cowboys and Redskins Football Team both lose, opening the door for the 6-10 Giants to make the playoffs. I think it would be hilarious. Imagine the giants knocking out bradys team again lol 1
NoSaint Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 5 hours ago, BananaB said: Watching what is unfolding in the NFC East me and friends had a debate yesterday about this because I don’t think a team who can’t place a .500 record should be in playoffs. Maybe even a above .500 record. Definitely shouldn’t be hosting a game. You got teams in the AFC that might miss with 10 and 11 wins and a team going in NFC going in with 7. I understand the division rules but think there should be an exception if no one in a division can get to 8 wins. Just a thought. Disagree.
Warcodered Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 I don't see why the NFC gets two bye games in the playoffs and AFC only gets 1.
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Artem Lipatov said: Winning division with losing record means the team already had advantage in regular season playing 6 games vs very bad teams and still couldn’t get decent record. Then they are awarded with home field advantage at playoffs. Very strange 🙃 Or your division drew a schedule of really tough games...nfc east got the afc north this year. The bengals were a tough out even when burrow was healthy
Putin Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 5 hours ago, BananaB said: Watching what is unfolding in the NFC East me and friends had a debate yesterday about this because I don’t think a team who can’t place a .500 record should be in playoffs. Maybe even a above .500 record. Definitely shouldn’t be hosting a game. You got teams in the AFC that might miss with 10 and 11 wins and a team going in NFC going in with 7. I understand the division rules but think there should be an exception if no one in a division can get to 8 wins. Just a thought. Didn’t the panthers or I can’t remember who was also 7-9 and made the playoffs few years back , but back to your point I thought about that so many times and IMO I don’t care if you won your pathetic division you should have at least a winning record, (9-7)
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: Because sometimes winning your 4 team division is a case of being the tallest midget. That's it...it's 'go' time! 😠 Edited December 29, 2020 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1
LeGOATski Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Not sure what you mean by that... I was saying if a 7-9 team can enter the playoffs and beat a winning team, then that seals the case that they should be allowed in if they win their division. Your reply sounds like its agreeing with me even though you wrote "Not me." to open it, but cant tell. Either way, its a silly discussion, if you win your division you should be in IMO. I mean there are so many potential circumstances around that division winner possibly being only 7-9. Maybe a slew of injuries to critical players early in the season caused them to start slow. Its just to subjective to just flat out say no one under .500 should be allowed in. You win your division, you earn a playoff birth. And given the fact not that long ago a 7-9 team went into the playoffs and beat the Saints in the first round shows that they shouldn't just flat out be banned from the playoffs. I guess I misinterpreted that post. To your actual point though, your argument is based on the rule. Rules can simply be changed. There's parity in this league, so of course a lesser team still has a chance for a playoff victory. The rule currently allows a more deserving team to miss that playoff opportunity, which is a bit of a problem.
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