leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Lol, no. Refusing to even work with the new administration is new. Especially on national security. Obama helped out Trump while fighting back against our (The USA's, the Republics) enemies. That that enemy of freedom and republican government happened to be best friends with Trump is not Obama's fault, its Trump's. You are twisting. I'm trying to meet some of you guys in the middle here for the sake of unity. Unfortunately, @oldmanfan is upset that I have concerns about the oldmanjoe's mental health, and you think that it's cool to poke a bear by expelling some, but not all, murderous thugs and creating a sh^tstorm that your predecessor has to clean up. Knowing what was to come on the Trump=treason hoax, and knowing Obama and Biden were knuckles deep in the scam, what he did was so incredibly reckless as to be unthinkable. Biden has been a politician for decades. He's playing you because you're easily played. 1
B-Man Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 Trump ends Obama’s 12-year run as most admired man: Gallup. 1 1
Tiberius Posted December 29, 2020 Author Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I'm trying to meet some of you guys in the middle here for the sake of unity. Unfortunately, @oldmanfan is upset that I have concerns about the oldmanjoe's mental health, and you think that it's cool to poke a bear by expelling some, but not all, murderous thugs and creating a sh^tstorm that your predecessor has to clean up. Knowing what was to come on the Trump=treason hoax, and knowing Obama and Biden were knuckles deep in the scam, what he did was so incredibly reckless as to be unthinkable. Biden has been a politician for decades. He's playing you because you're easily played. I'm guessing that you think it was wrong to react to an attack our election? They interfered in our election. We were suppose to lay over dead? And what did poking the bear do to hurt Trump's transition? Not sure what you are getting at there. Seems like a stray man argument. But hey, it worked. You got me off of talking about Trump's complete unpartiotic refusal to help the guy who beat him. So congrats straw
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 46 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'm guessing that you think it was wrong to react to an attack our election? They interfered in our election. We were suppose to lay over dead? And what did poking the bear do to hurt Trump's transition? Not sure what you are getting at there. Seems like a stray man argument. But hey, it worked. You got me off of talking about Trump's complete unpartiotic refusal to help the guy who beat him. So congrats straw There was no reason to allow the Rooskies to remain in our country before or immediately after the election, nor to allow the highest ranking murderous thug to remain in country. It defies logic that our great enemy would be allowed to shelter in place for 2,900 of 2,922 days of Obama's term, especially in light of the fact that Russian interference in our elections process predates 2016 by decades. But maybe Biden will get lucky and DJT will expel some foreign adversaries in the next couple of weeks. That's what friends do, right?
Big Blitz Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 So unpatriotic..... The Department of Defense slammed Democrat Joe Biden for claiming without evidence that his team has not received all of the information that they need during the transition period, saying that U.S. officials have given Biden’s team more resources than Biden’s team initially requested. Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller slammed the claims from Biden, noting that the department has given Biden’s team more access to resources than they initially requested. “The Department of Defense has conducted 164 interviews with over 400 officials, and provided over 5,000 pages of documents – far more than initially requested by Biden’s transition team,” Miller said in a statement. “DOD’s efforts already surpass those of recent administrations with over three weeks to go and we continue to schedule additional meetings for the remainder of the transition and answer any and all requests for information in our purview.” Foreign policy and national security matters are an area where Biden has been criticized, even by former Obama officials, for being wrong. Robert Gates, who served as defense secretary for the Obama administration, said that Biden has “been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.” https://www.dailywire.com/news/pentagon-slams-biden-for-claiming-that-his-team-is-being-denied-access-to-information 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 12 hours ago, Big Blitz said: So unpatriotic..... The Department of Defense slammed Democrat Joe Biden for claiming without evidence that his team has not received all of the information that they need during the transition period, saying that U.S. officials have given Biden’s team more resources than Biden’s team initially requested. Acting Secretary of Defense Chris Miller slammed the claims from Biden, noting that the department has given Biden’s team more access to resources than they initially requested. “The Department of Defense has conducted 164 interviews with over 400 officials, and provided over 5,000 pages of documents – far more than initially requested by Biden’s transition team,” Miller said in a statement. “DOD’s efforts already surpass those of recent administrations with over three weeks to go and we continue to schedule additional meetings for the remainder of the transition and answer any and all requests for information in our purview.” Foreign policy and national security matters are an area where Biden has been criticized, even by former Obama officials, for being wrong. Robert Gates, who served as defense secretary for the Obama administration, said that Biden has “been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.” https://www.dailywire.com/news/pentagon-slams-biden-for-claiming-that-his-team-is-being-denied-access-to-information Awesome post, thanks for the catch as it points out what I was explaining to @Tiberius yesterday. In Biden's world, there's no 'unity' in the traditional sense, there's only politicking and jockeying for position. The sad part is that this is pretty much SOP for all politicians at that level, but Tibsy's partisan slant makes it impossible for him to see. Biden points the direction, Tibsy sets off smiling as directed. Though--and I don't want to risk the ire of @oldmanfan here, but it seems distinctly possible that Biden really has no idea about what's going on. One issue common to folks as they age is the loss of short term memory. This sort of discrepancy could be explained by that, especially given that Biden didn't get into specifics as to what he was claiming--just broad and sweeping statements that he was being blocked out. Again, that's fairly common in the elderly, isn't it? Feeling insecure, thinking folks are out to get them. I think we would all agree we should keep an eye on this, especially because, you know, unity. 1
oldmanfan Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Awesome post, thanks for the catch as it points out what I was explaining to @Tiberius yesterday. In Biden's world, there's no 'unity' in the traditional sense, there's only politicking and jockeying for position. The sad part is that this is pretty much SOP for all politicians at that level, but Tibsy's partisan slant makes it impossible for him to see. Biden points the direction, Tibsy sets off smiling as directed. Though--and I don't want to risk the ire of @oldmanfan here, but it seems distinctly possible that Biden really has no idea about what's going on. One issue common to folks as they age is the loss of short term memory. This sort of discrepancy could be explained by that, especially given that Biden didn't get into specifics as to what he was claiming--just broad and sweeping statements that he was being blocked out. Again, that's fairly common in the elderly, isn't it? Feeling insecure, thinking folks are out to get them. I think we would all agree we should keep an eye on this, especially because, you know, unity. Show me actual medical evidence of him having the type issues you suggest. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Show me actual medical evidence of him having the type issues you suggest. I knew you couldn't quit me! I do not have access to anyone's medical records beyond my own. You know that. Also, I simply offered that it was a 'distinct possibility' that this was the case. My evidence is anecdotal and comes from comparing the Scranton Mauler of yesteryear to the tired, old, and often confused old man I see today. If you see him as having the same vigor and intellectual capacity as always, well God Love Ya Man, Ya got steel in your spine! You seem to want to stamp out dialogue here, and I can't understand why.
oldmanfan Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I knew you couldn't quit me! I do not have access to anyone's medical records beyond my own. You know that. Also, I simply offered that it was a 'distinct possibility' that this was the case. My evidence is anecdotal and comes from comparing the Scranton Mauler of yesteryear to the tired, old, and often confused old man I see today. If you see him as having the same vigor and intellectual capacity as always, well God Love Ya Man, Ya got steel in your spine! You seem to want to stamp out dialogue here, and I can't understand why. I don't think you should make unfounded accusations without a shred of evidence. 1
Big Blitz Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: Show me actual medical evidence of him having the type issues you suggest. They're hidden in the same place they are burying the data that says 6 feet apart is bull *&*t and your mask that says "In this together " does jack squat to slow Corona.
oldmanfan Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: They're hidden in the same place they are burying the data that says 6 feet apart is bull *&*t and your mask that says "In this together " does jack squat to slow Corona. Your nonsense about the Corona virus has been proven to be just that, nonsense. 1
Big Blitz Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Your nonsense about the Corona virus has been proven to be just that, nonsense. Pretty sure the data out of California vs Arizona vs Florida tells me your mitigation strategies you won't question bc the party of control benefits from them have been proven nonsense.
oldmanfan Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Big Blitz said: Pretty sure the data out of California vs Arizona vs Florida tells me your mitigation strategies you won't question bc the party of control benefits from them have been proven nonsense. Wrong. They shows that the lack of wearing masks and the lack of distancing hurts. 1
Big Blitz Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Wrong. They shows that the lack of wearing masks and the lack of distancing hurts. Show me the data that's what happened in California, Florida, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Texas. I'll be here all day.
oldmanfan Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Show me the data that's what happened in California, Florida, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Texas. I'll be here all day. Keep dreaming. Data has been shown to you over and over and over around here. You simply choose to not believe what you see.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: I don't think you should make unfounded accusations without a shred of evidence. The entire world moves on opinions and speculation. Hit me up next time a reporter sends out a story based on anonymous sources and speculation and you're demanding all the underlying data for in-depth scientific analysis. In fact, if you really want to get to the meat of any matter, let's acknowledge something else. Using the Mueller Report as an example, none of us have seen the underlying evidence or data that lead to whatever conclusions he came to that vindicated Trump. I have no way of knowing if the investigation was impartial, fair or even competent--I just know what was said and how it was interpreted. Besides, I'm not making accusations, I'm offering observations based on the man Biden was, and the tired old man he is today. I don't need an in-depth neurological screening profile prepared by the crack staff at Johns Hopkins to see a marked difference between Biden v Ryan and Biden v Trump debates, for example. I don't need to give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to him thinking he's running against someone named "George" when his opponent has one of the most recognizable non-George names on the planet. The fact that Dr. Jill has to feed him the name is troubling to me. Who's going to be there when he refers to Vladimir Putin as Skip, Ted, or Billy Bob? When he forgets the words to the Declaration of Independence, written into a speech he prepared and practiced to deliver, it's on him, not on me. By the way, age catches up with us all if we live long enough. It doesn't make him a bad human being that he struggles, it just makes him a remarkably bad choice for president. Someone here said they would have voted for a ham sammy before casting a vote for Trump--the good news is I think they got one. Again--feel free to insist on a full workup with blood vitals and MRI screening before you even remotely consider the guy is fading fast. I don't criticize you for that, I think it's funny.
Big Blitz Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Keep dreaming. Data has been shown to you over and over and over around here. You simply choose to not believe what you see. So that's a no. Similar "science" is what we're using to determine 6700 fans can be "allowed" to the stadium next week.
oldmanfan Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 37 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: So that's a no. Similar "science" is what we're using to determine 6700 fans can be "allowed" to the stadium next week. It’s a we’ve shown you over and over again and you won’t believe fact response. Let’s go over the things we’re asked to do and apply it to the playoff game: 1. Wear masks. I am quite sure that will be mandatory for the playoff game. 2. Distance. The 6700 is a tenth of the capacity of the Ralph. That allows for spacing or, put another way, distancing. 3. Any gatherings should be limited in number and preferably outside. Limited in number -see above. As for outside, last time I checked no one had slapped a dome over the Ralph. 4. Hand washing. You want to place bets on how many sanitizing stations will be there? I don’t know this for sure, but I would be willing to bet tailgating will be eliminated or at minimum severely curtailed in the lots operated by the team. Your act is old and tired. All experts in the field say that these mitigating strategies, if used by all, would significantly stop viral spread. But they’re not. People are either not wearing masks or wearing them improperly. People are congregating inside in poorly ventilated spaces. You know it; quit pretending you don’t.
Big Blitz Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: It’s a we’ve shown you over and over again and you won’t believe fact response. Let’s go over the things we’re asked to do and apply it to the playoff game: 1. Wear masks. I am quite sure that will be mandatory for the playoff game. 2. Distance. The 6700 is a tenth of the capacity of the Ralph. That allows for spacing or, put another way, distancing. 3. Any gatherings should be limited in number and preferably outside. Limited in number -see above. As for outside, last time I checked no one had slapped a dome over the Ralph. 4. Hand washing. You want to place bets on how many sanitizing stations will be there? I don’t know this for sure, but I would be willing to bet tailgating will be eliminated or at minimum severely curtailed in the lots operated by the team. Your act is old and tired. All experts in the field say that these mitigating strategies, if used by all, would significantly stop viral spread. But they’re not. People are either not wearing masks or wearing them improperly. People are congregating inside in poorly ventilated spaces. You know it; quit pretending you don’t. Look. I get it. You live in a state that currently has its thruways littered with alerts that threaten "avoid shutdowns, celebrate safe." You live in a communist dystopia that thinks it can micromanage a virus that's never going away. And now with this super scary more contagious strain we've found in Colorado.....omg....we should definitely increase 6 feet to 12 to be safe.
Tiberius Posted December 31, 2020 Author Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/29/2020 at 2:56 PM, B-Man said: Trump ends Obama’s 12-year run as most admired man: Gallup. 12 years! Wow, Obama will easily beat Trump with that, and the number of terms! Also, didn’t Obama win the popular vote twice? What was Trump’s record there? Lol 😆 1
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