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  On 12/27/2020 at 9:23 PM, Motorin' said:

Not under 2 minutes. See Kenny Stabler.

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I am old and I remember the play.  That involved 2 phony forward flips of the ball to advance it toward the endzone for the TD with 10 seconds to go.  I thought the rule made a distinction about the direction of the fumble.  It does not.

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  On 12/27/2020 at 10:05 PM, Bleedingreennc said:

Enjoy my stay? Hmm, guess you don't post often, I like talking to the vets of the board better, you new Bills fans seem to be lacking in something.

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Says the Jet fan with 1,000 fewer posts than me. Keep going boss. Sad because you can’t understand basic math? Because you keep proving it.

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  On 12/27/2020 at 10:10 PM, JESSEFEFFER said:

 

I am old and I remember the play.  That involved 2 phony forward flips of the ball to advance it toward the endzone for the TD with 10 seconds to go.  I thought the rule made a distinction about the direction of the fumble.  It does not.

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I remember it, too. I think Dave Casper is the one who recovered it.

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  On 12/27/2020 at 9:58 PM, balln said:

who cares. he didnt throw the pic. allen almost threw a pic in denver 

almost doesnt count in football. try to not have observation bias

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You’re completely burying the lead- he didn’t throw it, and they won. But he didn’t play like an MVP today. He played poorly by that standard. That itself isn’t enough to take the award from him, but it closes the gap between him and Josh. 

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To me the only difference between Mahomes and Allen is Mahomes has one more year experience and a super bowl under his belt other than that I’ve watched enough of Mahomes this year and I can’t see where he is head and shoulders above Allen the way some people are making him out to be.... When I watch both of them they almost look dead even to me... Allen is bigger stronger and has a better arm that much I do know....

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  On 12/27/2020 at 10:09 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

With PIT winning, we have to win the next two to secure the #2 seed, no?

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Winning the next two guarantees it. So does Pitt losing next week and Tennessee losing one of two. I think.

  On 12/27/2020 at 10:14 PM, whatdrought said:


You’re completely burying the lead- he didn’t throw it, and they won. But he didn’t play like an MVP today. He played poorly by that standard. That itself isn’t enough to take the award from him, but it closes the gap between him and Josh. 

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This is how the narrative works. We only remember the plays that counted for Mahomes. 

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  On 12/27/2020 at 10:13 PM, Mojo44 said:

I remember it, too. I think Dave Casper is the one who recovered it.

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 Stabler underhanded it forward while under tackle and Pete Banaszak had the ball in both hands and flipped it forward where Casper kicked and batted into the endzone for the recovery TD which covered 24 yards.  The officiating crew did not rule any of these as intentional which would have ended the play. Thus, I thought the rule change made as a result applied to forward fumbles only and not backwards ones too.

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  On 12/27/2020 at 10:24 PM, JESSEFEFFER said:

 Stabler underhanded it forward while under tackle and Pete Banaszak had the ball in both hands and flipped it forward where Casper kicked and batted into the endzone for the recovery TD which covered 24 yards.  The officiating crew did not rule any of these as intentional which would have ended the play. Thus, I thought the rule change made as a result applied to forward fumbles only and not backwards ones too.

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to cover all possibilities and avoid controversial judgment calls

in the future the NFL ruled that any fumble on fourth down or within the last two minutes can only be advanced by the fumbler. Doesn’t matter which direction the ball moves. 

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