H2o Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 I honestly think he is one Hail Murray away from being the lead dog right now. If we had won that game the talk about it would be the drive he led and that dime throw to Diggs in the clutch. We would also be 12-2, with the #2 seed, and still an outside shot at the #1. 4 1
Wo-Bah Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 I'm OK with someone other than Josh winning the MVP. Josh wants a different title after his name & MVP of a certain game. 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 21, 2020 Author Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) On 12/21/2020 at 2:23 PM, mannc said: Nonsense. Henry is a great back, but he does not belong in the MVP discussion. Tanehill has had a very good year and the Titans have a bunch of other offensive weapons besides Henry. If Henry were out, they’d be diminished, but they’d still be a good offense. Can’t say the same about any of the top QBs. Expand He should be in the discussion, but not win it. I mean he'll end up nearly 2000 yards and 20 TDs. Edited December 21, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede
Doc Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 2:04 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: MVP race doesn't care about that stuff. Just simple numbers. Wins, TD's, and yards. Expand Depends. Jackson didn't have the most yards last year, even taking rushing yards into account. He also had a poor completion percentage. But if Josh doesn't win it, no biggee. He's just as good as them.
DCOrange Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 2:47 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: He should be in the discussion, but not win it. I mean he'll end up nearly 2000 yards and 20 TDs. Expand Dalvin Cook might end up with better numbers than that too though
LikeIGiveADarn Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 If only he had gotten a TD or two in that second Jets game.
mannc Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 2:47 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: He should be in the discussion, but not win it. I mean he'll end up nearly 2000 yards and 20 TDs. Expand He’s had a great year, but his impact is minor compared to the top QBs. That’s just the way it is. Titans minus Henry are still a playoff team. The Chiefs and Bills without Mahomes/Allen are sub-.500.
Billy Claude Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 Something Allen would need to overcome is turnover numbers. Allen has 15 (9 int + 6 fum lost) vs. 7 (5+2) for Mahomes and 6 (4 + 2) for Rodgers. 4
Mat68 Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 2:32 PM, Kwai San said: Mahomes.....the NFL wants that - the NFL has promoted him as such. At the end of the day - Mahomes. Sorry but it is what it is..... Expand Your probably right. Without Allen or Rodgers Packers and Bills are picking in the top 10 or 5. Without Mahomes Kc is a wildcard team. I think that needs to be part of it. 1
Doc Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 3:17 PM, mannc said: He’s had a great year, but his impact is minor compared to the top QBs. That’s just the way it is. Titans minus Henry are still a playoff team. The Chiefs and Bills without Mahomes/Allen are sub-.500. Expand I disagree. Henry is a big factor in their success.
mannc Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 3:46 PM, Doc said: I disagree. Henry is a big factor in their success. Expand They would have had no trouble beating the Bills without him, the Josh Norman evisceration not withstanding...
phxbacker Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 2:13 PM, DCOrange said: Realistically, barring a collapse, it'll likely be Mahomes or Rodgers, but it's incredible that Allen actually has to be mentioned. Our boy (and our team) has come such a long ways. Expand That's OK if Josh doesn't get MVP. I'm sure he'll take the Superbowl MVP as a consolation prize works for me. 1
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) On 12/21/2020 at 1:58 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: MVP is a simple stat award. Josh Allen has a chance. This isn't a 2 man race. 1 - Aaron Rodgers: 11 wins, 43 Total TD'S, 3954 Total Yards 2 - Patrick Mahomes: 13 wins, 38 Total TD'S, 4749 Total Yards 3 - Josh Allen: 11 wins, 39 Total TD'S (1 Rec TD😁), 4395 Total Yards ( 12 Rec Yards😁) Expand On 12/21/2020 at 2:00 PM, Stank_Nasty said: Allen has 39 total... everyone keeps forgetting the receiving td. Expand On 12/21/2020 at 2:04 PM, matter2003 said: Allen must have 39 total TDs because he broke Kelly's record of 34 last week and had 4 more today. I believe you are forgetting his receiving TD in the Cardinal game... Expand Yes, it is 39. Additionally, Russell Wilson has 38 total TDs and Mahomes has 38, as well. ...I'm not sure Nick Wright would believe that (that Josh is #2 and ahead of Wilson and Mahomes) even if you showed it to him from NFL.com or Pro Football Reference.com...Sorry, Nick...the Truth hurts. Edited December 21, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts
Doc Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 3:50 PM, mannc said: They would have had no trouble beating the Bills without him, the Josh Norman evisceration not withstanding... Expand LOL! No.
Ramza86 Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 Would rule out Henry because Cook is having a better year than him.
Greg S Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 Allen has had a fantastic season but it will probably go to Rodgers or Mahomes.
Might Rather Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 2:17 PM, LeGOATski said: Henry and Hopkins. 2 most dominant offensive players who mean so much to their teams. Expand Diggs should be in that conversation.
MDH Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 2:10 PM, matter2003 said: Henry should definitely be in contention...Tannehill is only effective because of Henry. Expand Henry was doing his thing before Tannehil took over as the starter and that team was nowhere near as good. The running game is key but it wasn’t enough by itself. And that was when they had a good D...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 21, 2020 Author Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 3:02 PM, Doc said: Depends. Jackson didn't have the most yards last year, even taking rushing yards into account. He also had a poor completion percentage. But if Josh doesn't win it, no biggee. He's just as good as them. Expand What do you mean? Lamar was like 6 or 7th in total yards, lead the NFL in passing TD's, also had 7 rushing TD's, and also had most wins. 1
LeGOATski Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 4:30 PM, Might Rather said: Diggs should be in that conversation. Expand He could be if the situation was a little different in Buffalo. Like if Allen wasn't playing like the best QB.
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