JMF2006 Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, T master said: Probably true but i bet every time he looks at his bank account it makes him feel a little better ... Yeah nice to be set for life if thats your goal but most players want to win a SB some where along the way for those nice retirement memories. 1
prissythecat Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, sure, Duh! Look at the salivation against the background of who we'd had at QB for the previous 5 season - Tyrod, Peterman, EJ Manuel, Cardale Jones, the Dregs of Matt Cassel, Kyle Orton, Thad Lewis, and Jeff Tuel. If that's been the diet available, including the use of a 1st round pick, you gotta admit Kirk Cousins looks relatively tasty. Yah the Tyrod and EJ show was certainly dismaying. But if one were to take a shot at a QB, someone like Cousins didn't seem all that appealing despite some good numbers because he was known for taking risks with the ball to try to make plays and also because he didn't exactly elevate the team with him.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, H2o said: I don't know Cousins personally, but I remember stories from when he was in Washington about him being rather arrogant in his piety which caused friction among his teammates. Someone on here said that was a factor causing friction with Diggs in Minn - that Cousins held prayer meetings in the facility and was apparently pretty insistent about teammates attending. Diggs is apparently Christian, but low-key about his faith. And of course, among Christians there are many different variations of belief (that being the basis of the Emo Phillips joke), so it's an abuse of the QB's leadership position IMO if it's true that he was basically trying to force-feed his particular faith on teammates. 2
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 12 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Is Lamar great again because he wiped the Jags? I'm not sold. Ravens would be my pick to face in the playoffs. Colts are well-coached and the Mayfield is getting hot for the Browns. Ravens are impressive against weak opponents. My 2 cents.. Rivers in buffalo - his arm is not great. They do have a seriously solid offensive line though, and a run game that's starting to really find its footing. They also feature the best defense in this group Browns - Mayfield looks solid, has the arm - when the pocket is solid. Muddy that up and he tends to fade, and his throws aren't on target. They also have a solid o-line and running game. Their defense is probably the worst in this group. Ravens - LJ poses problems as its unlike what you see any other week, solid running attack. They have speed on offense but they don't really throw deep often. They have a lot of talent on defense and the goal is to make you 1 dimensional. 15 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Was he Kirk's first read? If so, that makes sense. I mean... you got a half field read there. You have to throw it.
H2o Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Someone on here said that was a factor causing friction with Diggs in Minn - that Cousins held prayer meetings in the facility and was apparently pretty insistent about teammates attending. Diggs is apparently Christian, but low-key about his faith. And of course, among Christians there are many different variations of belief (that being the basis of the Emo Phillips joke), so it's an abuse of the QB's leadership position IMO if it's true that he was basically trying to force-feed his particular faith on teammates. Agreed. There is a difference between being a "light" in the world and forcing your way into a room to cut the light on. 1
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) Why don't you guys step off a little bit. I mean Kirk is only costing them 28 million dollars a year and has nothing to show for it. What did you expect, for him to constantly get better, make the playoffs 67% of his time tere, win division championships and be in the top 3 or 4 QBs in the League? Do you think it is easy being Fitzy 2.0? It isn't. Edited December 21, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, prissythecat said: Yah the Tyrod and EJ show was certainly dismaying. But if one were to take a shot at a QB, someone like Cousins didn't seem all that appealing despite some good numbers because he was known for taking risks with the ball to try to make plays and also because he didn't exactly elevate the team with him. Well, see, I would have disagreed with you on both those points - but it was clear he was simply a competent NFL QB, it wasn't like he was going to rip his suit off and become Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Wilson, or Mahomes. But at the time, it seemed as though we had a strong defense and a strong run game, so a competent NFL QB who would actually make throws downfield might get us somewhere. I had no quarrel with the Bills not wanting to pay his asking price. 29 minutes ago, dneveu said: Browns - Mayfield looks solid, has the arm - when the pocket is solid. Muddy that up and he tends to fade, and his throws aren't on target. They also have a solid o-line and running game. Their defense is probably the worst in this group. I thought the gouge on Mayfield was set the edge and keep him in the pocket vs. PA/rollout?
prissythecat Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, see, I would have disagreed with you on both those points - but it was clear he was simply a competent NFL QB, it wasn't like he was going to rip his suit off and become Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Wilson, or Mahomes. But at the time, it seemed as though we had a strong defense and a strong run game, so a competent NFL QB who would actually make throws downfield might get us somewhere. I had no quarrel with the Bills not wanting to pay his asking price. I thought the gouge on Mayfield was set the edge and keep him in the pocket vs. PA/rollout? totally agree with you on these points.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, see, I would have disagreed with you on both those points - but it was clear he was simply a competent NFL QB, it wasn't like he was going to rip his suit off and become Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Wilson, or Mahomes. But at the time, it seemed as though we had a strong defense and a strong run game, so a competent NFL QB who would actually make throws downfield might get us somewhere. I had no quarrel with the Bills not wanting to pay his asking price. I thought the gouge on Mayfield was set the edge and keep him in the pocket vs. PA/rollout? If he can't step into his throws he tends to miss. Play action, he'll set up super deep like brees so he can see the field better. He's not super athletic, but when hes rolling out he tends to fade back and right which will result in turnovers or throwaways.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 1 minute ago, dneveu said: If he can't step into his throws he tends to miss. Play action, he'll set up super deep like brees so he can see the field better. He's not super athletic, but when hes rolling out he tends to fade back and right which will result in turnovers or throwaways. In my limited observation, Stefanski and Mayfield are trying to incorporate some elements of Daboll/Allen - the pass by another player to Mayfield, the occasional designed run etc. Imitation and flattery............... He actually looked pretty accurate rolling out last night, but on the other hand after the 1st Q the Giants defense seemed to start phoning it in, so..
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: In my limited observation, Stefanski and Mayfield are trying to incorporate some elements of Daboll/Allen - the pass by another player to Mayfield, the occasional designed run etc. Imitation and flattery............... He actually looked pretty accurate rolling out last night, but on the other hand after the 1st Q the Giants defense seemed to start phoning it in, so.. I think a designed rollout is fine - typically its coming out of play action, and its a hi-low read with a scramble as the last option. He can make those throws I think. It's when he's moving around the pocket when he tends to drop his eyes and make mistakes.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, dneveu said: I think a designed rollout is fine - typically its coming out of play action, and its a hi-low read with a scramble as the last option. He can make those throws I think. It's when he's moving around the pocket when he tends to drop his eyes and make mistakes. Right, so the stuff the Giants didn't do last night - set the edge and contain him, then pressure
TheFunPolice Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 Cousins has made so much money for a totally mediocre QB
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 F*** Kirk, (Tyrod), You got to throw the ball! Fixed, I was used to yelling that at the TV 1
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