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On 12/11/2020 at 9:56 AM, Tiberius said:

What a boost to consumer spending it would be! 

 

Yep it would boost the cost of those that actually pay for what they sign up for & because some one has to pay for it which in the long run will more than likely be the US gov't S**T roles down hill & we the people will pay for it weather it be through higher taxes along with higher inflation .

 

Not to mention sending the message that if you take on a responsibility you can just say screw it if you decide later to change your mind with little to no consequences but that has become the new America that you love so much !! 

 

EVERY BODY GETS A TROPHY NO MATTER HOW GOOD OR BAD YOU DO PARTICIPATE OR NOT YOU TO WILL GET A TROPHY !! JUST BECAUSE YOUR A ENTITLED AMERICAN !! 

4 hours ago, BillStime said:

Another loss for the pathetic cult

 

 

 

It's all about buying votes plain and simple ... That's the way politics work give away entitlements and they will vote for me !! 

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4 hours ago, T master said:

 

Yep it would boost the cost of those that actually pay for what they sign up for & because some one has to pay for it which in the long run will more than likely be the US gov't S**T roles down hill & we the people will pay for it weather it be through higher taxes along with higher inflation .

 

Not to mention sending the message that if you take on a responsibility you can just say screw it if you decide later to change your mind with little to no consequences but that has become the new America that you love so much !! 

 

EVERY BODY GETS A TROPHY NO MATTER HOW GOOD OR BAD YOU DO PARTICIPATE OR NOT YOU TO WILL GET A TROPHY !! JUST BECAUSE YOUR A ENTITLED AMERICAN !! 

 

It's all about buying votes plain and simple ... That's the way politics work give away entitlements and they will vote for me !! 


And the tax cuts for the rich and corporate America had nothing to do with votes?

 

smfh

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5 hours ago, BillStime said:


And the tax cuts for the rich and corporate America had nothing to do with votes?

 

smfh


So then we can now put you down on record as this cancellation of student loan debt was done to “buy” votes?  ✔️

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3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


So then we can now put you down on record as this cancellation of student loan debt was done to “buy” votes?  ✔️


I could care less what you do 

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4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


So then we can now put you down on record as this cancellation of student loan debt was done to “buy” votes?  ✔️

BillSy apparently believes the millions of billionaires votes are what put Trump over the top. The comments get more desperate and ridiculous as we get closer and closer to the midterms. 

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10 minutes ago, BillStime said:


I could care less what you do 


Your behavior is one of the reasons I didn’t have children.  I have rarely seen an “adult” act more like a child than you. 

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2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


Your behavior is one of the reasons I didn’t have children.  I have rarely seen an “adult” act more like a child than you. 


Not convinced THATs the reason - lmao

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17 hours ago, BillStime said:

Another loss for the pathetic cult

 

 


This case had the best chance of going somewhere and a Republican judge threw it out. Every challenge has been defeated pending some appeals. The Supreme Court also denied to hear one of the cases.

 

Biden ran for President. One of his campaign promises was a student debt forgiveness. The American people chose this. Elections have consequences.

 

Policy promises like the are what put Biden over the top of Trump and helped secure the more progressive votes.

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2 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:


This case had the best chance of going somewhere and a Republican judge threw it out. Every challenge has been defeated pending some appeals. The Supreme Court also denied to hear one of the cases.

 

Biden ran for President. One of his campaign promises was a student debt forgiveness. The American people chose this. Elections have consequences.

 

Policy promises like the are what put Biden over the top of Trump and helped secure the more progressive votes.

So paying off other people’s debts is progressive? 

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The decision seems correct under existing legal rules. 
But the rules have to be changed. 
In our federal system the courts are not allowed to issue “advisory opinions.” If Congress passes a law of dubious constitutionality, or if the President implements a policy that runs afoul of the Constitution (and I believe this one does), there’s also no “taxpayer standing” to challenge it. You’d have to find an individual plaintiff or plaintiffs to show that they are being harmed by the policy. “My taxes may go up in the future” is not enough. 
It’s not just Biden, although this is a pretty extreme executive action. Trump diverting appropriations to building his wall was another. In our system, Congress is supposed to have some control over how taxpayer monies are spent. Maybe we need a doctrine (or even constitutional amendment) to allow the courts to strike down unconstitutional policies based on a certification by a certain percentage of Congress, etc. 

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On 10/21/2022 at 3:32 AM, BillStime said:


And the tax cuts for the rich and corporate America had nothing to do with votes?

 

smfh

 

Well of course they do every thing that surrounds the gov't is crooked they sit and think of ways to buy votes especially when they are screwing things up as bad as this guy has he's trying to stop the hole in the bottom of the boat because its sinking so the college loan forgiveness, the getting people out of jail for simple possession of pot releasing gas from the strategic reserve it's all part of it .

 

Which the release of people for pot i will say i agree with because it was a stupid law from the get go but its the timing of it he's posturing him self to look good for more votes .

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7 hours ago, T master said:

 

Well of course they do every thing that surrounds the gov't is crooked they sit and think of ways to buy votes especially when they are screwing things up as bad as this guy has he's trying to stop the hole in the bottom of the boat because its sinking so the college loan fogginess, the getting people out of jail for simple possession of pot releasing gas from the strategic reserve it's all part of it .

 

Which the release of people for pot i will say i agree with because it was a stupid law from the get go but its the timing of it he's posturing him self to look good for more votes .


It’s called F’N politics - lol

 

 

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10 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


Nothing burger for right now. The ruling doesn’t decide any merits of this case or anything. The lower ruling that the Republicans don’t have standing is still affirmed until the Appeals court can decide.

 

So this pause on the forgiveness doesn’t tell us anything about how the court will rule on the Republican judges decision that there is no standing.

 

MOHELA is probably the only entity or person in America with standing. They’re being dragged into the case by Republicans without being the one actually bringing a case. It seems highly doubtful they would bring a case is this fails at appeals.

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1 hour ago, Backintheday544 said:


Nothing burger for right now. The ruling doesn’t decide any merits of this case or anything. The lower ruling that the Republicans don’t have standing is still affirmed until the Appeals court can decide.

 

So this pause on the forgiveness doesn’t tell us anything about how the court will rule on the Republican judges decision that there is no standing.

 

MOHELA is probably the only entity or person in America with standing. They’re being dragged into the case by Republicans without being the one actually bringing a case. It seems highly doubtful they would bring a case is this fails at appeals.


Yes for right now.  But the fact that’s it’s even being reviewed says something.  We shall see how this turns out. 
 

Let me ask you a question.  Why does a family making $250k need any kind of forgiveness?  

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5 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Yes for right now.  But the fact that’s it’s even being reviewed says something.  We shall see how this turns out. 
 

Let me ask you a question.  Why does a family making $250k need any kind of forgiveness?  

 

They don't , that means test is way too high 

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