SoCal Deek Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Wacka said: Swalwell was a town councilman in Dublin,CA when I lived there I honestly don't remember him. How the hell did he get to be a Rep.? Could it be help for the ChiComs? Any idiot can get elected to the House. Each seat represents a very small number of voters.
SoTier Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 17 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Any idiot can get elected to the House. Each seat represents a very small number of voters. The average Congressional district has a population of about 711,000 people. About 60% of the US population is over the age of 18, so there are about 425,000 people over 18 in each Congressional District. Most of them are citizens, and more than half are likely to be registered and actually vote. That's not a "very small number of voters".
SoCal Deek Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 5 hours ago, SoTier said: The average Congressional district has a population of about 711,000 people. About 60% of the US population is over the age of 18, so there are about 425,000 people over 18 in each Congressional District. Most of them are citizens, and more than half are likely to be registered and actually vote. That's not a "very small number of voters". I live in Southern California. That's nothing more than an average sub-division. It's all relative.
T master Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 11:25 AM, DrDawkinstein said: Absolutely incorrect with those labels. Russia hasnt been socialist/communist in decades. It is now rampant late stage Capitalist with just a few wealthy oligarchs controlling it. Cmon man. Dont be so easily duped by how they want or choose to label themselves. Or, even worse, how youtubers label them. I'd dare say if you went to Russia and started speaking out loudly against Putin we would 🤔 well no we wouldn't here or see just how communist Russia gov't still is they just do a better job of trying to hide it .
Warcodered Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 6 hours ago, T master said: I'd dare say if you went to Russia and started speaking out loudly against Putin we would 🤔 well no we wouldn't here or see just how communist Russia gov't still is they just do a better job of trying to hide it . That's not communism/socialism seriously it's a country that doesn't actually have freedom of speech. Now Communist countries have historically not had free speech but the two things aren't exclusive to each other. 2
DrDawkinstein Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 23 hours ago, T master said: I'd dare say if you went to Russia and started speaking out loudly against Putin we would 🤔 well no we wouldn't here or see just how communist Russia gov't still is they just do a better job of trying to hide it . That isnt Communism. That is Authoritarianism. Which can happen under any economy. Which also shows how warped and misinformed most Americans are when it comes to economic theories. 3
SoTier Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 16 hours ago, Warcodered said: That's not communism/socialism seriously it's a country that doesn't actually have freedom of speech. Now Communist countries have historically not had free speech but the two things aren't exclusive to each other. Exactly. Socialism has actually proven it's not incompatible with democratic institutions. Most Western European nations currently have or have had democratic socialist governments since World War II. Some of those countries have swapped socialist and conservative regimes more than once without losing their democratic political systems. Modern democratic socialism stresses providing supports for the bottom tier of society via taxes on the upper tiers of society because socialists realize that a society where a tiny percentage of the populace are extremely rich while most struggle economically isn't compatible with democratic political institutions. 2
T master Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 45 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: That isnt Communism. That is Authoritarianism. Which can happen under any economy. Which also shows how warped and misinformed most Americans are when it comes to economic theories. In theory .
DrDawkinstein Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, T master said: In theory . Any theory can be used to fool the people into allowing Authoritarians into power. The thing is, historically, it has typically been communism and socialism since their selling points are "for the people". Currently, we're seeing for the first time, Capitalism being used to allow an Authoritarian regime. The GOP have their base misinformed and fooled enough to go against their own best interests and believing that citizens dying and having to wait hours in miles long food lines is being a good citizen "for the economy". They have their base fooled into thinking they aren't poor, they are simply potential millionaires who havent hit it big yet. Little do they realize it will never happen, as they continue to give skin from the backs of the middle class to our ultra-wealthy class. And they are attempting to tear down our democracy and everything it stands for in the name of an Authoritarian Demagogue. 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Any theory can be used to fool the people into allowing Authoritarians into power. The thing is, historically, it has typically been communism and socialism since their selling points are "for the people". Currently, we're seeing for the first time, Capitalism being used to allow an Authoritarian regime. The GOP have their base misinformed and fooled enough to go against their own best interests and believing that citizens dying and having to wait hours in miles long food lines is being a good citizen "for the economy". They have their base fooled into thinking they aren't poor, they are simply potential millionaires who havent hit it big yet. Little do they realize it will never happen, as they continue to give skin from the backs of the middle class to our ultra-wealthy class. And they are attempting to tear down our democracy and everything it stands for in the name of an Authoritarian Demagogue. Oh brother! And you know all of this how exactly? You read it in a college textbook? In recent years, the largest wealth accumulation hasn’t occurred in sweat shops. It’s been made by people who’ve invented something that can be used on the internet. Edited December 14, 2020 by SoCal Deek
BillStime Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 11:20 AM, Unforgiven said: https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html Scream about Russia while colluding with China, nice You can tell who the real dirty rats are....they protest the loudest. Democrat party, raping and pillaging America, 2020 Russia Russia Russia What happened?
Warcodered Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, BillStime said: Russia Russia Russia What happened? They hacked us?
SoTier Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Wacka said: Shut up you stinking Commie leftists. Two can play the name-calling game, you stinking Facist pig.
SoCal Deek Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, SoTier said: Two can play the name-calling game, you stinking Facist pig. This one never makes sense to me. American Conservatives are best defined as people with a desire for LESS, not more central control. Not sure how that makes them fascists. 1
Wacka Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 26 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: This one never makes sense to me. American Conservatives are best defined as people with a desire for LESS, not more central control. Not sure how that makes them fascists. Because we stand up to real fascists and dislike libs.
WEATHER DOT COM Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wacka said: Because we stand up to real fascists and dislike libs. lol 13 hours ago, Wacka said: Shut up you stinking Commie leftists. LOL
SoTier Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Wacka said: Because we stand up to real fascists and dislike libs. No, you-- ie, self-described "conservatives" -- talk about "freedom" but you don't practice it. Wannabe Dictator Trump repeatedly threatened to use federal forces against protestors in various cities this past summer; he actually did use federal forces to clear peaceful protestors from in front of the White House so he could stage a photo-op; he's repeatedly called for arresting his political opponents. How many prominent supposed "conservatives" challenged the Fascist in Chief on any of those actions? About the same number that have challenged him on his continuing attempts to steal the presidential election that he lost by 7 million popular votes and 36 electoral votes. Lie to yourself about your devotion to "American freedoms" and "the Constitution" , but don't come here blathering about it when you support destroying American democratic institutions and processes in blind devotion to a would-be dictator and expect nobody to call you on your hypocrisy.
JaCrispy Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) A well balanced society requires both conservatives and liberals to work together in order to succeed... You need liberals to be innovative, and to reveal possible new fixes to societal problems...and you need conservatives to make sure society doesn’t go off a cliff, and holds onto traditions that have proven effective. The hard part is finding and maintaining that balance...but it starts with civil discourse, not mutually assured destruction... Edited December 15, 2020 by JaCrispy 4
SoCal Deek Posted December 15, 2020 Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: A well balanced society requires both conservatives and liberals to work together in order to succeed... You need liberals to be innovative, and to reveal possible new fixes to societal problems...and you need conservatives to make sure society doesn’t go off a cliff, and holds onto traditions that have proven effective. Very, very well said. We definitely need both.
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