Unforgiven Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html Scream about Russia while colluding with China, nice You can tell who the real dirty rats are....they protest the loudest. Democrat party, raping and pillaging America, 2020 Edited December 9, 2020 by Unforgiven 1 1
Tiberius Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html Scream about Russia while colluding with China, nice You can tell who the real dirty rats are....they protest the loudest. Democrat party, raping and pillaging America, 2020 Was this as big as that Russian women who infiltrated the NRA?
JaCrispy Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) I would not be surprised if true...Socialist China and the socialist base of the Democrat party share a lot of similar interests and goals... The whole Russia/Trump connection, however, never really made sense to me as Trump is more of a capitalist/nationalist and Russia is more socialist... Edited December 9, 2020 by JaCrispy 1
WEATHER DOT COM Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) hmmm Swalwell immediately cut off all ties to Fang, according to a current U.S. intelligence official, and he has not been accused of any wrongdoing. Dude can fart with the best of them, though. 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: I would not be surprised if true It's 100% true - Read the article. Edited December 9, 2020 by wAcKy ZeBrA 1
Scraps Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 39 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html Scream about Russia while colluding with China, nice You can tell who the real dirty rats are....they protest the loudest. Democrat party, raping and pillaging America, 2020 Can't be true. It comes from a fake news source. 4
WEATHER DOT COM Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Scraps said: Can't be true. It comes from a fake news source. Good point 1
DrDawkinstein Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I would not be surprised if true..Socialist China and the socialist base of the Democrat party share a lot of similar interests and goals... The whole Russia/Trump connection, however, never really made sense to me as Trump is more of a capitalist/nationalist and Russia is more socialist... Absolutely incorrect with those labels. Russia hasnt been socialist/communist in decades. It is now rampant late stage Capitalist with just a few wealthy oligarchs controlling it. Cmon man. Dont be so easily duped by how they want or choose to label themselves. Or, even worse, how youtubers label them. Edited December 9, 2020 by DrDawkinstein 1 1
JaCrispy Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Absolutely incorrect with those labels. Russia hasnt been socialist/communist in decades. It is now rampant late stage Capitalist with just a few wealthy oligarchs controlling it. Cmon man. Dont be so easily duped by how they want or choose to label themselves. Or, even worse, how youtubers label them. Fair enough...but what about China being socialist, as well as the a Democrat base? I mean, they do call themselves Democrat Socialists...that would probably go a long way to explain why they both hate the individual liberties protected by our constitution, no? Edited December 9, 2020 by JaCrispy
DrDawkinstein Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Fair enough...but what about China being socialist, as well as the a Democrat base? I mean, they do call themselves Democrat Socialists...that would probably go a long way to explain why they both hate the individual liberties protected by our constitution, no? I mean, as pretty much a Social Democrat (or Democratic Socialist) myself... how dare you? How do I even respond to that? Why would you assume that I, and plenty of other Americans, "hate the individual liberties protected by our constitution"? I'm guessing because some youtube video told you that. Gov. James Cox who ran for President in 1920 with FDR as his VP, and who started what is now Cox Enterprises, a $20Billion annual revenue company, was a Social Democrat. He didnt "hate liberties protected by the constitution", nor did he hate capiltalism (as evidenced by his wildly successful companies). FDR was not against our constitution either. His New Deal simply helped provide Americans with a safety net because we can afford it, and the more people we protect from poverty, the better our entire country does. Neither is Bernie, or AOC, or anyone else the propaganda wants you to believe is a boogeyman. They were/are all for making sure that as our country grew and progressed, so would the Quality of Life for our citizens. NO ONE in our government is Socialist. Social Democrat (or Democratic Socialist) does not equal Socialism, just because they both have "social" in their name. You need to do some basic research and even simply Google the definition of Socialism before talking like that. If you did, you would see it is obvious no one is arguing for "the means of production to be owned by the people". Rather, Social Democrats are simply in favor of making sure our taxes actually buy/provide us things we need instead of being wasted on tanks we dont need or hoarded by the 1%. We are already paying for things, we just want what we are paying for. If we truly are the richest country in the world, we should be able to provide the basics to our citizens as a safety net considering almost every other developed western country does it without issue. China is a tough one. Like Russia, and North Korea, and even the Nazis, they call themselves one thing that sounds good to their people, but in reality act a different way. Plus, we dont have any trustworthy information on what they do or how they do it. It seems to be far more Authoritarian Communism than Socialism. And certainly not Democratic Socialism since they do not have a Democracy. edit: I'd also like to add that nowhere in the US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, nor any of our founding documents is capitalism even identified. Nor any other theory of economics. So arguing that social programs, or even outright Socialism is against our Constitution, is wrong. As is arguing that pure Capitalism is our decreed method. Edited December 9, 2020 by DrDawkinstein 3 1
DrDawkinstein Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Fair enough...but what about China being socialist, as well as the a Democrat base? I mean, they do call themselves Democrat Socialists...that would probably go a long way to explain why they both hate the individual liberties protected by our constitution, no? I'll play. Specifically which liberties protected by our constitution do the liberal democratic base "hate"? 1
Warcodered Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I mean, as pretty much a Social Democrat (or Democratic Socialist) myself... how dare you? How do I even respond to that? Why would you assume that I, and plenty of other Americans, "hate the individual liberties protected by our constitution"? I'm guessing because some youtube video told you that. Gov. James Cox who ran for President in 1920 with FDR as his VP, and who started what is now Cox Enterprises, a $20Billion annual revenue company, was a Social Democrat. He didnt "hate liberties protected by the constitution", nor did he hate capiltalism (as evidenced by his wildly successful companies). FDR was not against our constitution either. His New Deal simply helped provide Americans with a safety net because we can afford it, and the more people we protect from poverty, the better our entire country does. Neither is Bernie, or AOC, or anyone else the propaganda wants you to believe is a boogeyman. They were/are all for making sure that as our country grew and progressed, so would the Quality of Life for our citizens. NO ONE in our government is Socialist. Social Democrat (or Democratic Socialist) does not equal Socialism, just because they both have "social" in their name. You need to do some basic research and even simply Google the definition of Socialism before talking like that. If you did, you would see it is obvious no one is arguing for "the means of production to be owned by the people". Rather, Social Democrats are simply in favor of making sure our taxes actually buy/provide us things we need instead of being wasted on tanks we dont need or hoarded by the 1%. We are already paying for things, we just want what we are paying for. If we truly are the richest country in the world, we should be able to provide the basics to our citizens as a safety net considering almost every other developed western country does it without issue. China is a tough one. Like Russia, and North Korea, and even the Nazis, they call themselves one thing that sounds good to their people, but in reality act a different way. Plus, we dont have any trustworthy information on what they do or how they do it. It seems to be far more Authoritarian Communism than Socialism. And certainly not Democratic Socialism since they do not have a Democracy. edit: I'd also like to add that nowhere in the US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, nor any of our founding documents is capitalism even identified. Nor any other theory of economics. So arguing that social programs, or even outright Socialism is against our Constitution, is wrong. As is arguing that pure Capitalism is our decreed method. It is honestly such a failing morally/ethically/governing not politically for Republicans to use this crutch of labeling all social reforms as Communism/socialist. I mean what is it they're striving for? Not be Communist, cut taxes. Same with gun control they use this big boogeyman of Democrats taking your guns away when the majority of the country would agree we need stricter gun control. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted December 9, 2020 Posted December 9, 2020 Here's all I have to say to Representative Swalwell, he of the (no doubt continuing) presidential ambitions: Was she worth it? Because I'm not seeing it.
Teddy KGB Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 Lmao at dead ass PPP. We got Zebra rushing in to get Swalwells back 😩😩😩 The spy who shagged me 🗣🗣🗣😂😂😂 2
TBBills Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 I thought Unforgiven was finally about to tell us all he was a dirty rat for posting all that bad information.
Wacka Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 Swalwell was a town councilman in Dublin,CA when I lived there I honestly don't remember him. How the hell did he get to be a Rep.? Could it be help for the ChiComs? 2
SoTier Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 21 hours ago, Scraps said: Can't be true. It comes from a fake news source. Isn't it remarkable that "fake news" sources suddenly become "real news" sources when they post a story that the Trumplicans like? 20 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Fair enough...but what about China being socialist, as well as the a Democrat base? I mean, they do call themselves Democrat Socialists...that would probably go a long way to explain why they both hate the individual liberties protected by our constitution, no? Bull manure. Democratic socialism has nothing to do with hating "individual liberties protected by our constitution". Democratic socialism advocates for social programs that benefit most Americans, regardless of their political or economic persuasion. Both Social Security and Medicare are "socialistic" programs that have been around for more than half a century. How do they infringe on any "individual liberty" except for preventing the elderly from the "individual liberty" to starve or die from lack of medical care? Take your stupid self to a real library and read some books on history, economics, and social policy instead of getting your "knowledge" from liars, con artists, and nutcases on right wing propaganda sites. 19 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I mean, as pretty much a Social Democrat (or Democratic Socialist) myself... how dare you? How do I even respond to that? Why would you assume that I, and plenty of other Americans, "hate the individual liberties protected by our constitution"? I'm guessing because some youtube video told you that. Gov. James Cox who ran for President in 1920 with FDR as his VP, and who started what is now Cox Enterprises, a $20Billion annual revenue company, was a Social Democrat. He didnt "hate liberties protected by the constitution", nor did he hate capiltalism (as evidenced by his wildly successful companies). FDR was not against our constitution either. His New Deal simply helped provide Americans with a safety net because we can afford it, and the more people we protect from poverty, the better our entire country does. Neither is Bernie, or AOC, or anyone else the propaganda wants you to believe is a boogeyman. They were/are all for making sure that as our country grew and progressed, so would the Quality of Life for our citizens. NO ONE in our government is Socialist. Social Democrat (or Democratic Socialist) does not equal Socialism, just because they both have "social" in their name. You need to do some basic research and even simply Google the definition of Socialism before talking like that. If you did, you would see it is obvious no one is arguing for "the means of production to be owned by the people". Rather, Social Democrats are simply in favor of making sure our taxes actually buy/provide us things we need instead of being wasted on tanks we dont need or hoarded by the 1%. We are already paying for things, we just want what we are paying for. If we truly are the richest country in the world, we should be able to provide the basics to our citizens as a safety net considering almost every other developed western country does it without issue. China is a tough one. Like Russia, and North Korea, and even the Nazis, they call themselves one thing that sounds good to their people, but in reality act a different way. Plus, we dont have any trustworthy information on what they do or how they do it. It seems to be far more Authoritarian Communism than Socialism. And certainly not Democratic Socialism since they do not have a Democracy. edit: I'd also like to add that nowhere in the US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, nor any of our founding documents is capitalism even identified. Nor any other theory of economics. So arguing that social programs, or even outright Socialism is against our Constitution, is wrong. As is arguing that pure Capitalism is our decreed method. Perfectly said. Thank you. 1 1 1
Q-baby! Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 11:20 AM, Unforgiven said: https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html Scream about Russia while colluding with China, nice You can tell who the real dirty rats are....they protest the loudest. Democrat party, raping and pillaging America, 2020 Interesting! 😂😂😂
DrDawkinstein Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'll play. Specifically which liberties protected by our constitution do the liberal democratic base "hate"? Still waiting on a reply from @JaCrispy here. Edited December 10, 2020 by DrDawkinstein stupid autofill
Plano Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Still waiting on a replay from @JaCrispy here. I'll summarize several words from his reply: "buh gawd, damn commies, china, plandemic, maga, hamberders, dementia, swamp, stolen, fixed, dominion, parler, newsmax" 1
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