Kyler Murray being lambasted for lack of leadership by Bart Scott making him sound Jay Cutler-esque

[Seoulofstone]

18 minutes ago, Dukestreetking said:

Seoul, well done sir. Nicely expressed. You are, like, a balanced-introspective- philosopher-king.

 

This board never ceases to amaze.

Ha, my wife might disagree! I appreciate the compliment though.

[Warcodered]

6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He seems so nice in the heisman commercials 

I can't understand why Tebow signed up to get crapped on like that does he need the money? does he have something in common with OBJ?

 

Overall this article comes across as looking for chinks in the armor during a bad stretch/sharks circling the raft.

[Magox]

6 hours ago, Seoulofstone said:

Sounds like a character assassination piece to me. He didn't cry when he was 6 down to Buffalo with under a minute to go. I can't speak to whether his character is douchey or not but he's only young and to be fair a large percentage of NFL players are probably douchey 

 

It's opinions like this that never get it!  That never have been part of top notch organizations.

 

These intangibles matter, we've had these sort of arguments on this board for years, it's this sort of view that is the same sort of view of not believing in "Process".  

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

LESSON LEARNED 

 

never trademark anything 

 

on gmfb they mentioned a number of football players who trademarked something fell flat shortly after 

 

 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Yeah I think I may have been wrong about Murray. I thought he was going to be a special QB. I definitely see the downtrodden demeaner. 

[Kelly the Dog]

Wasn’t Bart Scott a known douche canoe who flipped fans the bird, got in fights with coaches, threatened reporters and taught teammates how to get costly unsportsmanlike conduct penalties?

[Don Otreply]

8 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Wasn’t Bart Scott a known douche canoe who flipped fans the bird, got in fights with coaches, threatened reporters and taught teammates how to get costly unsportsmanlike conduct penalties?

So your sayin he knows how not to be a leader of men...😁

[CardinalScotts]

i have noticed the facial expressions towards other guys this season, but he seems to be well liked

[without a drought]

Well, if Bart Scott says so.

 

I guess it's time for the Cards to start looking for a QB in next years draft.

[Man with No Name]

7 hours ago, matter2003 said:

 

He did that after winning 5 Super Bowls and proving himself over and over again on the biggest stage. He also would get after guys at practice and make sure they kept repeating something until they got it exactly right no matter how many reps it took.

 

But to a man players say Brady is an amazing leader. Getting in someone's face sometimes is part of it. 

There are different types of leaders. Brady can get away with getting in a guy's face and getting after them about putting in work because he is the hardest working guy on the team. If Kyler is the hardest working guy on the team, he will be okay. 

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Not going to comment on Kyler Murray's character because honestly none of us know.  I do think that the Cardinals are basically following in the Browns footprints the last couple seasons of being anointed the hot new contenders before really proving anything.  As if NFL defenses were going to go "OH NO, NOT THE AIR RAID" and collapse.

[Nester]

He’s 23 

 

get a grip click bait media

[Kelly the Dog]

5 minutes ago, Nester said:

He’s 23 

 

get a grip click bait media

Brady was 30 when he was that age!

[QLBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Wasn’t Bart Scott a known douche canoe who flipped fans the bird, got in fights with coaches, threatened reporters and taught teammates how to get costly unsportsmanlike conduct penalties?

Think he was known as a really tough LB. As a broadcaster in an era where 90% want to be pals and or don’t want to lose player access. He doesn’t care. His opinion on KA is not wildly off base. 

[Augie]

1 hour ago, CardinalScotts said:

i have noticed the facial expressions towards other guys this season, but he seems to be well liked

 

That could just be gas?    🤷‍♂️

 

 I won’t leap to judgment. 

[Simon]

3 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Wasn’t Bart Scott a known douche canoe who flipped fans the bird, got in fights with coaches, threatened reporters and taught teammates how to get costly unsportsmanlike conduct penalties?

 

 

[NickelCity]

He seems a bit bratty, for lack of a better word. But my take, like Bart Scott's, is flimsy and based on shallow cues.

[BruceVilanch]

11 hours ago, JimKellyTryouts said:

His pre-draft process where he spurned the A's and continued to stay vague as towards what sport he was committed towards rubbed me the wrong way from the start

He had an interview W/Dan Patrick that was so incredibly uncomfortable regarding what sport he was going to play, he also rubbed me the wrong way after that interview. He is incredibly fun to watch, but I wouldn't want him as my QB.

[SinceThe70s]

I've always liked hearing Bart's opinion. Respected him as a player and I never felt like his shtick as a talking head was manufactured. If he thinks Kyler lacks leadership it's worth noting IMO.

[BobbyC81]

15 hours ago, Mark80 said:

 

I could tell he was a "me first" type of guy just by his actions of baseball vs football.  When he was drafted by the A's in the first round (7th I believe, maybe?) he guaranteed them that he wasn't going to be playing football professionally.  The A's then let him play for a season after they had already signed him after the baseball draft and he does fantastic and then changes his tune.  Went from I guarantee I'm playing baseball to, oh, now I'm having a good football season I will completely shift gears and screw over the A's (who just lost that pick with no compensation since he actually signed a contract) because he saw greener pastures in the NFL.  B.S. move in my opinion (yes, I am an A's fan, full disclosure).  Show's me that he is 100% for himself and not a "team" mentality.

 

Plus, he just comes off as awkward to me in general.  Not sure what it is.  In all the interviews I see of him I just get a bad vibe from him every time.

There was also that interview where he just sat there and wouldn’t answer questions to commit to a sport and his dad was in the background answering the questions.