Dont Stop Billeiving Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Funny that Greenlaw made that comment. He's meant to be one of the ascending young and rangy modern day LBs in the NFL and unless I missed it, I didn't see his name mentioned in connection with one good play in this game. Singletary beating him to the outside on 4th and short is the main play that comes to mind. Warner is still an absolute monster, but we did such a good job playing keep away from him.
cage Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't what game Sherman was watching where San Fran got lots of pressure on Josh? The game was won by the Bills offensive line keeping Josh clean for the most part. And if they all knew everything the Bills were running why were McKenzie and Davis wide open for their touchdowns? Allen has become quite good at buying time in the pocket and beyond. There were lots of plays where he was adeptly moving around and especially escaping pressure rolling right. He becomes deadly. So I think Sherman is mostly right, they did get pressure on him, but Allen just handles it until he finds someone. I haven't seen any Next Gen Stats on average time to throw, but Allen has to be near the top of the league in longest time to throw.
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, cage said: Allen has become quite good at buying time in the pocket and beyond. There were lots of plays where he was adeptly moving around and especially escaping pressure rolling right. He becomes deadly. So I think Sherman is mostly right, they did get pressure on him, but Allen just handles it until he finds someone. I haven't seen any Next Gen Stats on average time to throw, but Allen has to be near the top of the league in longest time to throw. I'm not sure they did. There were a few plays where they moved him off his spot I suppose... but that isn't pressure. Pressure is rushing his process and the number of times they did that all night was countable on one hand. Our line knows how to block guys in such a way where even when they don't win initially they can keep rushers off Allen.
YattaOkasan Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, dneveu said: There were plenty of throws short of the sticks. Diggs averaged 9.2 yards per catch. Few targets for RBs. A shovel pass! Diggs had a sneaky good game though. He had 6 first downs (maybe not too surprising considering the 9 ypr)! Lots of them critical in the second half too.
ProcessAccepted Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 I have to give credit to Sherman. The others gave somewhat muted or qualified praise for Allen and the Bills. He's the only one who just came out and said how amazing Josh played. 3
BarleyNY Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 A less superstitious man might make some glowing comments about how our team - and specifically our QB - has grown and improved. Stuff about how far they’ve come, how difficult and impressive that is, etc., etc. Ahem. 1
Jay_Fixit Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Josh was 32/40 for 375 yards and 4 scores. I can only imagine how much worse it would have been for the 49ers if they DIDNT know what the Bills were doing. 2 1
Big Turk Posted December 8, 2020 Author Posted December 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: I have to give credit to Sherman. The others gave somewhat muted or qualified praise for Allen and the Bills. He's the only one who just came out and said how amazing Josh played. Shanahan basically said they would have needed to score pretty much every drive and it felt like last years New Orleans game where they ended up winning 48-46
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, LVGrown said: He was 8/8 on passes over 20 yards. Since when is that dinking and dunking? Allen throws 10 40+ yard bombs and he is dinking and dunking... Brady throws one 10 yard pass and he's throwing bombs all over the field
Hampton Josh fan Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Josh had monster , raw physical talent coming out of college, but it took courage to project him as a franchise QB because of his accuracy issues. The thing that convinced Beane was his burning desire to improve and lead, which came out in the interview process. Now you see a supremely confident, highly efficient , physically imposing freak, that teammates will run through a wall for. He hasn't won anything yet, but for long suffering Bills fans, it's nice to know this guy gives us a chance to win it all for the foreseeable future. 1
hemma Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 I think they are just saying "We knew before every play that we would get our asses kicked, so it was no surprise when we got our asses kicked." 1 2
Captain Caveman Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, matter2003 said: They didn't "let" it happen...they were helpless to stop it. Allen was too good last night. I don't think there are many teams in the NFL that would have had much success against him yesterday. Josh played an amazing game, I think Daboll also had his best game of the season in terms of playcalling and design. The TD pass to McKenzie was a perfect example. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/highlights 3
Mat68 Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 Good teams and good offenses dont have to be revolutionary. Offense execution beats good defense. The k gun was what 5 plays? Good pass plays have beaters for differant coverages. Man go here, zone go here. Allen last night could tell the defense the play and it wouldnt have mattered.
DCbillsfan Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 I think the reporters got their quotes mixed up. The Bills offense knew exactly what the 49ers defense was doing and exploited them over and over and over. 1 1
Shaw66 Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I counted 2 four man rushes that got any kind of pressure. There were a couple of blitzes that did... including our last play from scrimmage that wasn't a kneel but when they rushed 4 and played zone Josh picked them apart and when they sent extra guys and tried to man up Josh just threw it to Stef and then laughed as they tried to cover him 1on1 or threw it to McKenzie who was wide open for a touchdown. Team have stopped, or at least slowed down, the Bills passing game, but it's obvious that the Bills are now presenting some serious challenges to pass defenses. The Bills are pretty much forcing everyone to play zone against them. When Brown is on the field, they present difficult matchups, and even without Brown, Diggs, Beasley, and Davis are a pretty serious group. Beasley and Davis get deep well enough to complement Diggs, and Beasley and Diggs get separation against everyone but the best - Davis doesn't get separation, but he's one of those open-when-he's-covered guys. On top of that, playing man creates those running lanes for Allen where he just takes 15-20 yards because it's there. And to make matters worse, Allen's had great success against the blitz. If you blitz, you're forced into man-to-man, which is where you don't want to be. And if you're in man and blitz and Allen breaks the containment, those 15-20 yard gains can become 30-40 yard gains. So the Bills know they're going to see a lot of zone. And they're getting better and better at attacking it. And Allen is getting better at recognizing when the defense tries to change it up and go man. It's just becoming a first-rate passing attack. 8
Saint Doug Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: This is the really great takeaway from the game...the 49ers knew exactly what the Bills were going to do, but were helpless to stop it. They were a very good defense, 4th ranked against the pass and the Bills just manhandled them the entire game. It wasn't even a fair fight...it looked like Allen was a high schooler playing with his 5 year old little brother and his friends and whooping on them. Shanahan: "Obviously it didn’t work out well. We did blitz sometimes. When I get back to the hotel in a second, I’ll find out how much. When we did blitz, he got away from it and made some big plays. When we didn’t, he just dinked and dunked it and got after us too. Our defense has been carrying us all year. They were up against a big challenge today and we didn’t play our best on D. That’s why we had to offense and special teams. It was going to be one of those type of games that was going to be a shootout. We had a chance to do it on offense and make this game similar to how New Orleans was last year (48-46 win last December). It just got away from us.” Sorry, Shanny. This wasn’t a shootout. This game was never close. Any closing of the score gap came in garbage time.
RiotAct Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I don't what game Sherman was watching where San Fran got lots of pressure on Josh? The game was won by the Bills offensive line keeping Josh clean for the most part. And if they all knew everything the Bills were running why were McKenzie and Davis wide open for their touchdowns? yeah it seemed like he had a clean pocket quite a bit.
BRH Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) Apple doesn't fall far from the ego tree where Shanahan is concerned. He prepared his players and they still got owned, is what he's really saying. Edited December 8, 2020 by BRH
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 This is what I've been waiting for from Josh Allen. This is when a QB goes from good to great. Now the question is can he keep doing that. There are just some QBs you can't defend.
BillsFan619 Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: This is the really great takeaway from the game...the 49ers knew exactly what the Bills were going to do, but were helpless to stop it. They were a very good defense, 4th ranked against the pass and the Bills just manhandled them the entire game. It wasn't even a fair fight...it looked like Allen was a high schooler playing with his 5 year old little brother and his friends and whooping on them. Shanahan: "Obviously it didn’t work out well. We did blitz sometimes. When I get back to the hotel in a second, I’ll find out how much. When we did blitz, he got away from it and made some big plays. When we didn’t, he just dinked and dunked it and got after us too. Our defense has been carrying us all year. They were up against a big challenge today and we didn’t play our best on D. That’s why we had to offense and special teams. It was going to be one of those type of games that was going to be a shootout. We had a chance to do it on offense and make this game similar to how New Orleans was last year (48-46 win last December). It just got away from us.” Dre Greenlaw: “I think that’s probably the worst part, we knew exactly what they were running just from head to toe, and we just came up short,” Greenlaw said. “It’s kind of a weird feeling. We knew exactly what they were running.” Fred Warner: "He for sure had probably one of his best games. We knew about the arm talent and the escapability to be able to extend plays, and he showed that off today. So hats off to him. We obviously needed to play better on defense to win that game." Richard Sherman: "He was in good control of the game. He didn't pass up any easy looks. He didn't take any risky throws. The D-Line was doing everything they could and put a lot of pressure on him but he did a great job of evading and extending plays. You extend plays for four or five seconds and the coverage usually breaks down regardless of what you're in. So you've got to give him credit, man. He played a freaking fantastic game." Yup! Imposing our will on an opponent feels awesome. It must’ve been so frustrating for the Niners defense. Love it!
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