SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30443591/new-york-jets-adam-gase-admits-helped-sam-darnold-develop-nfl-qb "I came here to help him, help him develop his career, and we haven't been able to do that," said Gase, who is 7-20 and has presided over the NFL's worst offense for the better part of two seasons. That’s too funny 😂 1
Warcodered Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 I mean I'll give him credit for not just throwing Sam under the bus. 7
Maybe Someday Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) That’s a man who knows he’s getting fired lol. Darnold has only engineered 6 TD drives all season long. Wow. 🤣 Edited December 3, 2020 by Maybe Someday
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) He has a much firmer grasp of reality than I expected given those crazy eyes Edited December 3, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 8
Doc Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 Interesting phrasing: "I came here to help him, help him develop his career, and we haven't been able to do that." 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 3, 2020 Author Posted December 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean I'll give him credit for not just throwing Sam under the bus. 9 minutes ago, Maybe Someday said: That’s a man who knows he’s getting fired lol. Darnold has only engineered 6 TD drives all season long. Wow. 🤣 7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: He has a much former grasp of reality than I expected given those crazy eyes 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Interesting phrasing: "I came here to help him, help him develop his career, and we haven't been able to do that." pretty much sums it up. Methinks someone is holding Sam back
Doc Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 He was throwing him under the bus. The "we" is basically him saying "he."
JoshAllenReceipts Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 Sam Darnold is a bigger problem with the NY Jets than Adam Gase. Adam Gase is a better HC than Sam Darnold is a QB. Darnold is the worst starting QB in the entire NFL. Clearly. 4
Adam Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 I think Gase and Darnold both can do better elsewhere. The Jets owner is abysmal and the structure he set up doesn't work
boater Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 It's about the toys you surround the QB with. Josh Allen has some pretty nifty toys. Darnold is surrounded by lumps of coal. 1 1
mabden Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 If I was the owner of this team, I would fire Gause on the spot and publicly apologize to Darnold and the Jets fan base. Just now, boater said: It's about the toys you surround the QB with. Josh Allen has some pretty nifty toys. Darnold is surrounded by lumps of coal. The biggest lump stands on the sidelines every game with the game plan. 1
msw2112 Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) I think that Darnold has a higher ceiling as a player than Gase has as a coach. I don't think that Darnold's ceiling is anywhere near that of guys like Allen, Burrow, or Herbert and some of other top young guys. I think Gase is done as a HC, and might emerge down the road as a coordinator or position coach. There's always a spot for experienced retreads in the NFL. As to both guys, I agree that the Jests dysfunctional organization hasn't done either of them any favors. To give Gase some leeway (which isn't easy to do), when he said "we," he may have been referring to himself and his coaching staff (who he hired and assigned some of the responsibility of developing Darnold) and wasn't necessarily dragging Darnold under the bus with him. Edited December 3, 2020 by msw2112 2
FLFan Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 Is there anyone, anywhere at this point who remains unconvinced that Adam Gase is the worst coach in the NFL, by a mile in virtually any measure you could think of? The NFL should ban him for the good of the game.
blacklabel Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 I've said it before, if Sam Darnold ever succeeds as an NFL quarterback, it won't be with the Jets. Now I'm starting to wonder where he might end up....Chicago? Carolina? New England?! I'll throw stuff. 2
Turk71 Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) The only reason they haven't fired Gase is because he's doing such a good job of losing, why blow it now? Edited December 3, 2020 by Turk71 4
Augie Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 50 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean I'll give him credit for not just throwing Sam under the bus. It was strange wording. Kind of a backhanded admission. Whose fault was it he wasn’t able to do it? He didn’t say “I failed him.” Which I think is probably largely the case. It sounded equally possible that fixing Darnold was an insurmountable challenge. Disclaimer: I didn’t read the whole article, just the quote. Maybe the article is more clear?
YoloinOhio Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Augie said: It was strange wording. Kind of a backhanded admission. Whose fault was it he wasn’t able to do it? He didn’t say “I failed him.” Which I think is probably largely the case. It sounded equally possible that fixing Darnold was an insurmountable challenge. Disclaimer: I didn’t read the whole article, just the quote. Maybe the article is more clear? I read it that way too
CommonCents Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 Two peas in a pod. Neither are good at the NFL level.
JoshAllenReceipts Posted December 3, 2020 Posted December 3, 2020 You guys clearly don't get that Adam Gase is being used by the media and by the team as the sacrificial lamb for Sam Darnold. I don't think the Jets ever wanted Darnold to begin with. I think in 2018 when they traded up from #6 to #3, they thought the Browns would take Darnold at #1 and the Jets were prepared to take Baker at #3. It threw the Jets off guard that the Browns shocked everyone and took Baker #1, leaving them with Darnold. They never liked Darnold (and nor should they, he is not good, wasn't very good at USC). They let Robby walk on purpose because Darnold was so atrocious at connecting with the deep ball with Robby in 2019, that they knew Darnold wasn't the guy after 2 years of watching him play. Robby goes to Carolina, finally gets to play with an accurate QB and boom, Career Year. The Jets had already decided in the offseason that they had given up on Darnold, he was clearly not "the guy"....and Adam Gase is the one who has to act as the punching bag all season, and take the hit for Darnold.
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