MJS Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Wow, that's actually a little surprising to me. Didn't a lot of money go against the Bills last week too? I think people are going to lose their money again. There's no reason the Bills shouldn't win this game. Obviously a loss is possible, but I don't think it is rational to believe that the 49ers are favored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: Won’t be surprised if the refs have some questionable calls Monday Nfl wants the nfc playoff race to be exciting and 49ers need a win and we know how much the league hates small market teams And sometimes if you notice they will start will those bogus calls when the Bills (or any team for that matter) start to get too far ahead. That way they can try to keep it within the spread. Lol, I know (tin foil hat). It does seem to happen though when a team is pulling away and up by 17-20 plus points. The b.s starts to happen. Not saying that some teams don't ever rally back because they do. However I have been paying a little more attention to it than usual and it just seems a little fishy to me. 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Didn't a lot of money go against the Bills last week too? I think people are going to lose their money again. There's no reason the Bills shouldn't win this game. Obviously a loss is possible, but I don't think it is rational to believe that the 49ers are favored. I knoiw, I agree. Maybe Vegas is trying to see how many ppl will take the bait. It definitely doesn't make sense to me. I would think the Bills be favored by 3 or at least by 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, MJS said: Didn't a lot of money go against the Bills last week too? I think people are going to lose their money again. There's no reason the Bills shouldn't win this game. Obviously a loss is possible, but I don't think it is rational to believe that the 49ers are favored. Yes, I believe you are correct. Bills are a very good team and I cant' wrap my head around them being the under dog against some of these teams. Don't get me wrong, I mean I don't care and it does not bother me. It's just kind of surprising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: Won’t be surprised if the refs have some questionable calls Monday Nfl wants the nfc playoff race to be exciting and 49ers need a win and we know how much the league hates small market teams Just stop. Seriously. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: Won’t be surprised if the refs have some questionable calls Monday Nfl wants the nfc playoff race to be exciting and 49ers need a win and we know how much the league hates small market teams Seriously, where do you come up with stuff like this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Being prime time game hope Allen starts out well and keeps his emotions in check. He can get a bit rattled if things don't go his way in the beginning. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Beast said: Seriously, where do you come up with stuff like this? the NFL is losing BILLIONS In revenue with no fans in the stadiums you think they won’t try to make games more interesting this season on tv to get their ratings up? Just keep an eye out in the playoffs. Anyone who thinks the NFL doesn’t have a say in this stuff is delusional 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: the NFL is losing BILLIONS In revenue with no fans in the stadiums you think they won’t try to make games more interesting this season on tv to get their ratings up? Just keep an eye out in the playoffs. Anyone who thinks the NFL doesn’t have a say in this stuff is delusional Basically you’re telling us that because they’re losing revenue this year due to circumstances out of their control (and circumstances that are once in a lifetime), the NFL is going to decide to manipulate the outcome of games, which if discovered would jeopardize decades of future revenue? Edited December 5, 2020 by JGMcD2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: the NFL is losing BILLIONS In revenue with no fans in the stadiums you think they won’t try to make games more interesting this season on tv to get their ratings up? Just keep an eye out in the playoffs. Anyone who thinks the NFL doesn’t have a say in this stuff is delusional Someone's delusional, alright. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeTeam Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Let's not pretend that the NFL does not have special interest in certain story lines/ matchups for tv ratings. The NFL is entirely corrupt, and if it was not for my beloved bills, I would want nothing to do with it. That's my personal experience on the matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 19 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Sorry if Yolo has already linked this but: The team is 8-3. The offense is #10. The QB is top 10 in every category. What exactly WERE you expecting dude? Edit: here is a transcript of his follow up comments on Allen courtesy of 49erswebzone When you said that Buffalo Bills QB Josh Allen is a problem and he jumped off the film and it surprised you, did he surprise you in a way, I guess, that he's more of a passer and more of an accurate passer than just kind of a guy that's going to tuck it and run? "Yeah, he's like a young [New England Patriots QB] Cam Newton. Obviously, Cam can still throw and still do all that stuff, but he's a load to tackle. They run him, I mean, it's basically like Wildcat offense. They're doing a lot of you just snap the ball, run power with him which is surprising. More guts than I would with a franchise quarterback, but he makes it work. He drops back to pass. He has tremendous pocket presence and he'll sit in the pocket. It's not like he's looking to run out of there. He will go through his progressions. When it's time to scramble he's not scrambling to run, he's scrambling to throw, but if it all breaks down, he'll still run. He gains ground in a hurry. He's extremely fast, very agile, very mobile. He is hard to bring down because he's such a bigger body, but he is talented. He can throw the ball on his back foot just as far as [Kansas City Chiefs QB Patrick] Mahomes, I bet, and he's got the receivers to throw to. So, an extremely talented group and like I said, Brian's doing a phenomenal job putting them in position to be successful." I'm actually pretty surprised by this description, because I wouldn't have called the Bills offense anything like "Wildcat offense" and I actually don't see us running power with Josh Allen that often 🤷♂️ this season The rest of it - that he's got good pocket presence and scrambles to throw - seems appropriate. I assume he’s referring to some of the QB draws and sweeps they’ve run and possibly how Allen has a TD reception. It’s certainly there on tape, although not a fundamental part of Daboll’s scheme. Who knows though. Maybe Saleh found Allen’s inside running to be particularly impressive. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: the NFL is losing BILLIONS In revenue with no fans in the stadiums you think they won’t try to make games more interesting this season on tv to get their ratings up? Just keep an eye out in the playoffs. Anyone who thinks the NFL doesn’t have a say in this stuff is delusional Yeah, the NFL wants to possibly tarnish their product forever by having refs fix the outcome of plays in a BIlls/49ers game. Makes a ton of sense. The question I have for you is, obviously you feel NFL games are fixed, so why in hell would you follow the NFL? Edited December 5, 2020 by Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Milano Klein and Edmunds can all cover. Having them healthy makes a big difference. Will be tougher to run if we aren't in Nickel all game and I take my chances against mullen with the 3 of these guys blitzing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 17 hours ago, BillsFan619 said: For the people that are smarter than me, what are some key player to player matchups that could determine the outcome of the game? Not sure about the smarter part lol, but I'll take a stab... QB Josh Allen and Bills RBs vs MLB Federico 'Fred' Warner...Allen should see some winnable matchups in the 49ers secondary and Singletary/Moss exercised some of their demons last week with 139 combined rushing yards and over 7 YPC. However, Warner is a top three LB in this league IMO with a penchant for making big plays and is so central to what SF does on defense (think an A+ version of Milano, no disrespect to Matt). Slot WR Cole Beasley vs Nickel CB Emmanuel Moseley...Beasley in peak form and on pace for a career year will likely be matched up against Moseley (SF's #3 guy at that spot behind Williams and Taylor who are both out). To be fair, Moseley was a good player for them last year during the playoffs, but he lost his job this season and is carrying an injury as well. RBs Raheem Mostert and Jeff Wilson Jr vs LBs Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano, and AJ Klein...Mostert is a very dangerous player particularly in the wider areas of the field with his speed and elusiveness. Wilson is a less athletic version of Mostert but a serviceable back up and McKinnon is a shifty weapon in the pass game. Edmunds, Milano (if active), and Klein need to stay disciplined with their eyes and gap integrity, rally to the ball, and tackle well (not something the Bills defense is known for). Edmunds and Milano *should* be well equipped to defend against this SF offense with their range and speed (very few teams have two LBs who possess the ability to neutralize speed on the edge like we do, it's just been a matter of durability and execution for us so far in 2020) and Klein will hopefully continue his impressive play crashing down around the LoS. WRs Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk vs Bills Secondary...these guys are huge YAC threats and will break some tackles. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Samuel has -35 negative air yards when targeted in his last few games. The Bills need to play closer to the LoS than usual (less cushion) and gang tackle these guys. Looking for big impact games from Poyer and Taron Johnson (who for all his faults is usually great vs the run and a strong tackler). I was dreading this matchup before the season, but I'm cautiously optimistic now given the health and form of each team. Fingers crossed man, Go Bills! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Not sure about the smarter part lol, but I'll take a stab... QB Josh Allen and Bills RBs vs MLB Federico 'Fred' Warner...Allen should see some winnable matchups in the 49ers secondary and Singletary/Moss exercised some of their demons last week with 139 combined rushing yards and over 7 YPC. However, Warner is a top three LB in this league IMO with a penchant for making big plays and is so central to what SF does on defense (think an A+ version of Milano, no disrespect to Matt). Slot WR Cole Beasley vs Nickel CB Emmanuel Moseley...Beasley in peak form and on pace for a career year will likely be matched up against Moseley (SF's #3 guy at that spot behind Williams and Taylor who are both out). To be fair, Moseley was a good player for them last year during the playoffs, but he lost his job this season and is carrying an injury as well. RBs Raheem Mostert and Jeff Wilson Jr vs LBs Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano, and AJ Klein...Mostert is a very dangerous player particularly in the wider areas of the field with his speed and elusiveness. Wilson is a less athletic version of Mostert but a serviceable back up and McKinnon is a shifty weapon in the pass game. Edmunds, Milano (if active), and Klein need to stay disciplined with their eyes and gap integrity, rally to the ball, and tackle well (not something the Bills defense is known for). Edmunds and Milano *should* be well equipped to defend against this SF offense with their range and speed (very few teams have two LBs who possess the ability to neutralize speed on the edge like we do, it's just been a matter of durability and execution for us so far in 2020) and Klein will hopefully continue his impressive play crashing down around the LoS. WRs Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk vs Bills Secondary...these guys are huge YAC threats and will break some tackles. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Samuel has -35 negative air yards when targeted in his last few games. The Bills need to play closer to the LoS than usual (less cushion) and gang tackle these guys. Looking for big impact games from Poyer and Taron Johnson (who for all his faults is usually great vs the run and a strong tackler). I was dreading this matchup before the season, but I'm cautiously optimistic now given the health and form of each team. Fingers crossed man, Go Bills! Good stuff....but what about Diggs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Hebert19 said: Milano Klein and Edmunds can all cover. Having them healthy makes a big difference. Will be tougher to run if we aren't in Nickel all game and I take my chances against mullen with the 3 of these guys blitzing as well. Klein really can’t cover. He is at his best attacking the line of scrimmage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, njbuff said: Klein really can’t cover. He is at his best attacking the line of scrimmage. He might stick with a TE that isn't Kittle(good thing he's out). But you're right, he's better at rushing than covering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 6, 2020 Author Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Good stuff....but what about Diggs? I think Verrett will be on Diggs but they do play a lot of zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think Verrett will be on Diggs but they do play a lot of zone All the analysis I've heard is that the like to play man. Not sure what the split is between man and zone but I believe they like man more. Could be different against us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Too many variables in a team sport in this day and age to "fix" a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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