Bubba Gump Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Wow, some of you are just so homer you really can't see it... I knew right away it was going to be a penalty. And, I was correct. Can you give me Tuesday's lottery numbers then please.
Buftex Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Honestly, I thought this crew got most of the in-game play stuff right. I can't really complain much about their calls. It was the after-play stuff that was so frustrating. Particularly the unsportsmanlike call on Moss, and the call against Gabe Davis. The call on Josh, as stupid as the rule is, and no matter his intentions, was a text-book "taunting". Not saying I agree with the rule, but it is the rule, and Josh has to know better than that.
Livinginthepast Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: None if zebras refuse to change their call. Just like when they look at replay calls. NYC could make the call. Maybe not going to overturn some of the grey area borderline calls but definitely going to give at least a chance to reverse some of the bogus phantom calls like Moss's today for example. No other sport has more invented official calls than the NFL. 1 minute ago, Buftex said: Honestly, I thought this crew got most of the in-game play stuff right. I can't really complain much about their calls. It was the after-play stuff that was so frustrating. Particularly the unsportsmanlike call on Moss, and the call against Gabe Davis. The call on Josh, as stupid as the rule is, and no matter his intentions, was a text-book "taunting". Not saying I agree with the rule, but it is the rule, and Josh has to know better than that. No problem with the Josh call it was warranted but the Moss call was inexplicable. 1
Don Otreply Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: That personal foul call against Moss was baffling. The Browns and Patriots also had some mind blowingly bad calls against them. When do these refs start to get held responsible for terrible officiating? Or does the league not care? The league does not care at all. Its been very obvious for many years now that the zebras both do not know the rules or how they are Intended to be implemented, hell, the guys on this board have a far better handle on this than the refs do, it’s really quite pathetic, as we all know. Maybe we all start sending emails to the league office ten or twelve times a day for a month or two expressing our displeasure, it would be fun to do ya know, 😁
CLTbills Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Absolutely God awful today. I don't mind it near as much if it's awful on both sides. But it clearly seemed that the NFL was trying to keep the Chargers in the game. The Moss "unsportsmanlike conduct" penalty was awful, but there was another one on that same drive, a "holding" against Dawkins on Josh's 3rd down conversion that was phantom as well.
fasteddie Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Saw the replay of Cam Newton getting hit while he was still inbounds and the ref still called roughing. I swear they ref with their eyes closed..."But it sounds like a penalty." 1
CLTbills Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Absolutely baffling one in Miami-Jests game too. Devante Parker clearly juggling the ball, never came close to having possession, lost the ball going to the ground. Officials ruled he had it and fumbled out of bounds. Dude was never CLOSE to having control of the ball. It was clear as day.
NewEra Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: How often are you fines or your paycheck is docked for not being 100% perfect at your job? Are unions a new thing to you or something? This is a pretty stupid statement. Well, that’s a given considering
Utah John Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 All I can figure is that Moss farted in his general direction.
Simon Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Seems the past 2 weeks the refs are trying to make up for the lack of holding calls in the first half of the year by throwing flags on what seems like every other offensive play on some drives. Absolutely. I said something last week about a memo that must have come from the league office because the way they're calling holding went from 0-60 in one week and just continued to be a point of emphasis this week in every game I watched.
JohnNord Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: It was unsportsmanlike conduct on Moss and it clearly wasn’t. It also shouldn’t have been targeting on Davis late in the game, Allen slid and the defender walked into Davis. It also should’ve been offensive interference on Guytin, and the official right on the play didn’t throw the flag...the inside ref came over and bailed him out. Refs were clueless today This referee crew was extremely bad today. They looked indecisive and unsure on calls. The Moss call was probably one of the worst I’ve ever seen
JaCrispy Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) OP is 100% right....if you tune into any game you will see the same terrible calls being pulled out of the ref’s asses... Edited November 30, 2020 by JaCrispy
spartacus Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: It was unsportsmanlike conduct on Moss and it clearly wasn’t. It also shouldn’t have been targeting on Davis late in the game, Allen slid and the defender walked into Davis. It also should’ve been offensive interference on Guytin, and the official right on the play didn’t throw the flag...the inside ref came over and bailed him out. Refs were clueless today more like they had an agenda that's what happens when gambling influences the league for desired outcomes
Meatloaf63 Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: I don’t believe you actually watched the play I’m talking about. Or maybe you are related to the official who made the call If you’re talking about the TD that was called back because of the illegal block, you are clueless, if it’s a different play, I apologize for the mistake...
Brennan Huff Posted November 30, 2020 Author Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: If you’re talking about the TD that was called back because of the illegal block, you are clueless, if it’s a different play, I apologize for the mistake... You obviously haven’t watched the play..... https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/patriots-punt-return-td-called-210957893.html When you watch the block happen, the defender actually had time to brace for the hit, which doesn’t make it a “blindside” block. The play has been talked about a lot, so as far as me being “clueless” then I guess there’s a lot of other people in the sports world are as well...
5ths the charm Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Somebody actually did bring up fines in this thread. LOL Okay since you evaluated all the refs on every single play. That ref that blew the call on the Moss unsportsmanlike call, how many other bad calls did he have that you can specifically point out? Since you're bringing a QB playing terrible comparison. I evaluate a QB on his complete game. That's the way I would evaluate a ref as well but you don't or think they should. There are bad calls in every game and every sport because there is a lot of judgement calls and players are moving at a very fast pace. So what's your solution? Why don't you bring up what you think the consequences should be if a ref blows a call? Don't have to, the nfl keeps the personal foul stats and that crew has second most in the league, amount other categories, this crew is overly officious.
Meatloaf63 Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: You obviously haven’t watched the play..... https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/patriots-punt-return-td-called-210957893.html When you watch the block happen, the defender actually had time to brace for the hit, which doesn’t make it a “blindside” block. The play has been talked about a lot, so as far as me being “clueless” then I guess there’s a lot of other people in the sports world are as well... You obviously don’t know what your talking about, the announcer confirmed the call, he used forcible contact going back against the run of the play, just because the player noticed him at the last second doesn’t mean he didn’t start outside the field of vision, same as an offensive player can’t do it going back towards the line of scrimmage. He could have stood in his path, he can’t initiate contact. Doesn’t matter who talked about it, it was a classic example of what you can’t do...Yahoo Sports LOL Edited November 30, 2020 by Meatloaf63 1
pennstate10 Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Gene1973 said: He threw the ball at a tackler after the play. The official, like I, thought it was intentional. If he doesn't sling the ball behind his back at the tackler, he gives the official nothing to think about. Pretty dang simple... Couple of points: 1) It seems that Gene and Jethro (official who made the call) are literally the only ones who think it was correct. 2) I really like the idea of one penalty challenge per game. And at the end of the year, the 10% of officials who have the most unwarranted penalties are relegated to the MAC. 3) Offensive holding--How many times do I see an OT push an edge rusher to the ground, and see it called holding? If I'm a DE, if I see I cant reach the QB, I just fall to the ground and flail my arms. Jethro will call it holding.
Shaw66 Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 What bothers me about the officiating is the horrible inconsistency. A couple examples: Ending plays because forward progress has stopped. Today, in the Bills game and others I saw, sometime officials whistled plays dead when a running back was being held by two guys, but his legs were still moving. Other times, they let plays go with the ball carrier surrounded and unable to move at all, and all the officials just looked and watched. There is no consistency at all on how that is called. Illegal motion. Chiefs had two plays within about five minutes when they had a receiver in motion who turned upfield before the snap - no call. Then they had one where Hill seemed to continue parallel to the line of scrimmage, then step back, and they called it. It's ticky-tack stuff. I don't think they're always looking for it, and then they call when they think they saw it. Delay of game. We've all gotten used to the clock getting to zero and beyond before the call is made. Thursday, an instant BEFORE the clock hit zero, they called it. It's just dumb. If they can't get that stuff right, why should be surprised they get the harder stuff wrong? 2
Brennan Huff Posted November 30, 2020 Author Posted November 30, 2020 25 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: You obviously don’t know what your talking about, the announcer confirmed the call, he used forcible contact going back against the run of the play, just because the player noticed him at the last second doesn’t mean he didn’t start outside the field of vision, same as an offensive player can’t do it going back towards the line of scrimmage. He could have stood in his path, he can’t initiate contact. Doesn’t matter who talked about it, it was a classic example of what you can’t do...Yahoo Sports LOL You lol
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