Dan Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Can we talk about that for a minute? How horrible is that, Barkley comes in for one play it’s the one time they don’t even attempt to block Bosa and give him a clean hit on Barkley. Does the right guard just not like him? lol Edited November 30, 2020 by Dan
BillsShredder83 Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Anybody else notice Feliciano was at RG the first series, and moved to LG the next, and at some point he went back to RG. What was that all about?
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Oh, that's great. Bosa got the sack, but Barkley wins the Twitter
RichRiderBills Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, NewEra said: I realize this. That’s why you should stop smoking bad crack. yeah, he’s taken a few bad angles. Just like Pat Mahomes has thrown some bad passes. Just like jalen Ramsey has gotten beat. Everyone makes mistakes. Your crack just amplifies the sensation. Poyer has been very good this year, regardless of what you’ve seen You gotta be kidding me to compare Poyer to Mahomes. Poyer is not even a top 20 Safety. He's not elite....sorry man. I watch the film.
JGMcD2 Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: You gotta be kidding me to compare Poyer to Mahomes. Poyer is not even a top 20 Safety. He's not elite....sorry man. I watch the film. I think he’s just saying that even the elite players make mistakes... so the non-elite guys are definitely going to make mistakes. Awesome you watch the film (seriously, I’m not being sarcastic... it’s something I think more should do) who are the 20+ safeties above Poyer based on film? Edited November 30, 2020 by JGMcD2 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Dan said: Can we talk about that for a minute? How horrible is that, Barkley comes in for one play it’s the one time they don’t even attempt to block Bosa and give him a clean hit on Barkley. Does the left guard just not like him? lol Morse talked about that post-game. He said he took responsibility for the fumbled snap and for the sack on Barkley - botched protections I don't see it up on the Buffalobills.com site or youtube, but it's here starting about 9:45 in https://www.facebook.com/BuffaloBills/videos/428996384939446
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: You gotta be kidding me to compare Poyer to Mahomes. Poyer is not even a top 20 Safety. He's not elite....sorry man. I watch the film. I don't think he's comparing a safety to a QB much less Poyer to Mahomes. I think his point is that even generational talents make mistakes, so good players will also make mistakes. Just curious .....when you watch the film, who are the 19 strong safeties you rank ahead of Poyer? Make sure you consider responsibilities, we expect stout run defense, QB pressure, as well as pass coverage from Poyer. I was kind of chuckling to hear a couple of pundits discussing Jamal Adams, saying the Seahawks expect him to do all those things, and that's asking a lot (or words to that effect). 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, stevewin said: What is he referring to when he says "First one"? It sounds as though McD is telling the team that post-bye is a new 6 game season and they're now 1-0 with a chance to put their signature on the "new season" Nice victory speech, but I thought McDermott sounded more sincere in his presser when he quipped "if you guys see me fall over, you'll know why" and took his hat off to quip "I came here with a full head of hair" (untrue, I believe, but...) 1
RichRiderBills Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't think he's comparing a safety to a QB much less Poyer to Mahomes. I think his point is that even generational talents make mistakes, so good players will also make mistakes. Just curious .....when you watch the film, who are the 19 strong safeties you rank ahead of Poyer? Make sure you consider responsibilities, we expect stout run defense, QB pressure, as well as pass coverage from Poyer. I was kind of chuckling to hear a couple of pundits discussing Jamal Adams, saying the Seahawks expect him to do all those things, and that's asking a lot (or words to that effect). He is a top 20 SS ...if we want to break it down like that, however the difference in FS and SS have narrowed over the years. Sure, he's got good stats... He struggles bringing down TEs or making tackles at the 2nd level. He's routinly arm tackling and getting dragged for first downs. Ultimately, I'm not saying Poyer is garbage...my point was the tandem of Hyde/ Poyer has been dissapointing. Damn Poyer's inflated tackle stats. Neither of them pop on film, and they are not playing like the kind of elite guys they could be. Teams dont have to gameplan around these guys for the money they are earning. W / incentives Poyer avgs nearly 10 million per year, another 6 million for Hyde. They just are not playing up to the level they should week in and week out.
Dan Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Morse talked about that post-game. He said he took responsibility for the fumbled snap and for the sack on Barkley - botched protections I don't see it up on the Buffalobills.com site or youtube, but it's here starting about 9:45 in https://www.facebook.com/BuffaloBills/videos/428996384939446 Good to know... I wasn’t sure about the bad snap. But figured the missed protection was perhaps on Barkley for not calling the right blitz pickup or something. Interesting to see Morse take the blame for 2 key missteps.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 39 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: He is a top 20 SS ...if we want to break it down like that, however the difference in FS and SS have narrowed over the years. Sure, he's got good stats... He struggles bringing down TEs or making tackles at the 2nd level. He's routinly arm tackling and getting dragged for first downs. The question still remains. You stated "Poyer is not even a top 20 Safety. He's not elite....sorry man. I watch the film. " OK, that's what you say you see on film. Who are the 20 safeties who are better than Poyer? Shouldn't be a problem to name 'em, right? 41 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Ultimately, I'm not saying Poyer is garbage No, you're saying he's not a top-20 safety. So it's fair to ask you who are the 20 safeties who are better? Even if you want to look at strong safeties - who are the strong safeties who are better (though Poyer and Hyde flex those roles, so either question is fair) 41 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: ...my point was the tandem of Hyde/ Poyer has been dissapointing. Damn Poyer's inflated tackle stats. Neither of them pop on film, and they are not playing like the kind of elite guys they could be. Teams dont have to gameplan around these guys for the money they are earning. W / incentives Poyer avgs nearly 10 million per year, another 6 million for Hyde. They just are not playing up to the level they should week in and week out. OK, your opinion. Again, begs the question, who are the safety tandems who are better? Who are these elite guys? 1
CincyBillsFan Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Finished the game 18/24 which is 75% completion as well. Morse took responsibility for the fumbled snap as well as for the Barkley sack. I suppose we'll never know. The play sequence leading to the INT - first of all, any plan which winds up with Knox blocking Bosa is a Plan where you Lose your Hat - a Bad Plan. So much for that 2 yd loss to Moss. I'm not good enough to figure out what's going on from broadcast film, but the protection was clearly AFU. Singletary is there, Dawkins has a shot at a block, they look like they may interfere with each other. It looks to me as though Allen's arm got hit as he threw. I'm sure some of the guys who break down film will sort this. If the ball went where Diggs was instead of wobbling off to his L, he arguably was open by Allen-to-Diggs standards. I'm gonna wait to call that an awful decision by Allen. This is a great point. For some reason a lot of Bills fans, including their beat writers, call every Allen INT a "bad decision". You know sometimes the DB makes a great play or the D-line gets serious pressure as the QB is releasing the ball or the WR doesn't do what the QB expected. But in Buffalo none of this matters. Allen's INT's always seem to get described as "bad decisions". What I saw on that play was that Diggs was breaking open. If Allen had placed the ball higher there's a good chance that Diggs plucks it out of the air for a nice completion. Instead as Allen is following threw on his throw a defender hit his arm impacting the throw. That pick may have been a great decision by Allen throwing to a WR that ran a great route but ended up as an INT because of a great play by a D-lineman. Edited November 30, 2020 by CincyBillsFan 1
CincyBillsFan Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Penfield45 said: thing is, as good as Allen was playing it wasn’t good enough at the end against a better team we probably lose that game with 3 turnovers in the 4th quarter and everyone blames Allen for his mistakes he’s got to play much better than that. He’s far too inconsistent right now What the hell are you talking about? We won the game by 10 freaking points? Is this how it will be with you wrong Joshers? The first time we don't see Allen light up the stat sheet you're going to say "it wasn't good enough at the end"? At least wait until we lose to make such a lame point. I really can't wrap my head around this statement Penfield45. 1
Stank_Nasty Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: apparently thats what some posters around here call "playing not to lose" ..... 3
Warcodered Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Anybody else notice Feliciano was at RG the first series, and moved to LG the next, and at some point he went back to RG. What was that all about? A way to help disguise the run game? 1
dakrider Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: The rams are a legit playoff team and will be there. The fins have a top 5 defense and will probably be in the playoffs. Stop dancing around solid points. the chiefs are much better than everyone. The steelers? Very good team. 10-0 because of the weakest statistical schedule coming into this week. i love how you bash your own teams schedule to make a point but totally disregard it to prove another point about Pitt. That basically shows your hand. EDIT: Fins have a top 5 d in points allowed. Not overall. So i should say a good defense, not a top 5 unit though. Except that’s literally the opposite of what happened yesterday. The defense came out and shut down a top ten offense. So maybe let’s wait and see on that assertion. I think the Bills are about tied with Saints for 4th best team in NFL right now. I would put KC, Pitt and GB ahead of them. But I think Bills could beat Pittsburgh, better match up than KC anyway.
newcam2012 Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: The rams are a legit playoff team and will be there. The fins have a top 5 defense and will probably be in the playoffs. Stop dancing around solid points. the chiefs are much better than everyone. The steelers? Very good team. 10-0 because of the weakest statistical schedule coming into this week. i love how you bash your own teams schedule to make a point but totally disregard it to prove another point about Pitt. That basically shows your hand. EDIT: Fins have a top 5 d in points allowed. Not overall. So i should say a good defense, not a top 5 unit though. Except that’s literally the opposite of what happened yesterday. The defense came out and shut down a top ten offense. So maybe let’s wait and see on that assertion. Following your previous posts logic it's funny how you choose to minimize the previous 10 games of our defense. Shows your hand. My assertation is based on 11 games. Our defense remains a huge concern going forward.
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