CapeBreton Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 12:40 AM, dneveu said: The 4 fumbles last year was a problem. 1 in 100 or so this year? Thats normal I feel. Expand Shouldn’t we differentiate that he only lost 1 of those 4 fumbles? Or does that matter? I guess fumbling it four times shows some ball security issues. I nope Moss never fumbles the ball, then he will just be another fumbler like Singletary and Yeldon.
Don Otreply Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 3:18 AM, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I predict that everyone calling Moss average or a #2 back is going to feel silly about it a year from now. Expand Well, that could be, but today, Singletary out gained Moss on the ground, and the pass game, and has done so more than a couple time. Moss certainly has potential to be better than he currently is, and he is doing just fine for a rookie. If we ever learn to integrate a run game into our pass first offense in a more seamless way, both of our RBs will do very well. 1
Penfield45 Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 he is alright. decent #2/#3 guy. he isn't a #1 RB.
Golden Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Great points about a lack of break away speed in our backfield. Also, when you look @ games this year, it’s discouraging to see how many defenders are in our backfield when we hand off to our RB’s, this is stating the obvious. Also, the league has been able to run on the Chargers, so today’s stats are relevant to this.
Mr. K Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Rb by committee is the best situation for him. I love his running style. His lack if breakaway speed is troublesome but he isn't losing my confidence because of it. I think they just need a speedy guy whenever the fit is there
Frez Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Sloooooow and a fumbler. Draft another RB next season to go with Moss.
BurpleBull Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 9:30 PM, ChicagoRic said: Like the way he finds holes. Dislike his lack of breakaway speed. Like his blocking. Dislike his tendency to fumble. Like the way he picks up yards in chunks. Dislike that he can't seem to find the end zone. Is he a legit starter? Is he "just a guy" Is he a victim of poor run blocking? Enlighten me. Expand If you can't insert any back from the past five rosters into the lineup and get the same production, than he can't be just a guy. He needs to work on the fundamentals of securing the ball, but "just a guy"? What do your eyes tell you? Do you really need him removed from the lineup again to realize how important he is to the offense? If nothing else, the timing of this thread is bizarre, considering he was the team's leading rusher and receiver out the backfield.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 3:22 AM, CapeBreton said: Shouldn’t we differentiate that he only lost 1 of those 4 fumbles? Or does that matter? I guess fumbling it four times shows some ball security issues. I nope Moss never fumbles the ball, then he will just be another fumbler like Singletary and Yeldon. Expand Id say Singletary needs to shore up ball security a bit. Hes not fast and this was another one where they punched it out from behind. I don't know that he has some crazy mental fumbling problem.
dave mcbride Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 12:40 AM, dneveu said: The 4 fumbles last year was a problem. 1 in 100 or so this year? Thats normal I feel. Expand Yup, 1 fumble over 138 touches is actually very good. He had 4 fumbles on 180 touches last season. 1
Iverwig Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 12:45 PM, Frez said: Sloooooow and a fumbler. Draft another RB next season to go with Moss. Expand He has 261 carries for his career (years) and 5 fumbles during that span. He only has 1 fumble this year. He is not a fumbler. In comparison just taking their first years due to a close amount of total carries. Emmit Smith 241 carries 7 fumbles Barry Sanders 265 carries 4 fumbles LeSean McCoy 362 carries over 2 years (only had 155 carries in his 1st year) 4 fumbles (2 each year) Le’Veon Bell 244 carries 1 fumble 1
Don Otreply Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 From my vast experience as an arm chair GM, I’m calling it mostly poor run blocking and poor run play calling, if all Singletary does is successfully move the chains for first downs, with those chunk gains, I’m good, that means that defenses have to account for him. We have more than enough other weapons to complement his runs with scores. Go Bills!!!
Ramza86 Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Hes very elusive and strong enough to break tackles. If he had zero issues with fumbles and you put him behind a line that has any ability to run block. I see a good starter.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 He's the 2nd worst fumbler on the team behind Josh Allen. 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 4:39 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: He's the 2nd worst fumbler on the team behind Josh Allen. Expand Actually it would be knox - he lost a fumble and only has 11 touches.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 4:42 PM, dneveu said: Actually it would be knox - he lost a fumble and only has 11 touches. Expand Needs more touches to qualify on my scale. Lol. Honestly though Josh Allen has the biggest hands in the world and can't grip a football. Maybe he should wear gloves.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 4:44 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: Needs more touches to qualify on my scale. Lol. Honestly though Josh Allen has the biggest hands in the world and can't grip a football. Maybe he should wear gloves. Expand Allen doesn't hold the ball very well as a runner. He holds it out wide too often and its easy to punch out.
foreboding Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Can either of them become Austin Ekeler? Cause that is what this offense could use. AKA: Thurman Thomas. 1
Frez Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 3:35 PM, Iverwig said: He has 261 carries for his career (years) and 5 fumbles during that span. He only has 1 fumble this year. He is not a fumbler. In comparison just taking their first years due to a close amount of total carries. Emmit Smith 241 carries 7 fumbles Barry Sanders 265 carries 4 fumbles LeSean McCoy 362 carries over 2 years (only had 155 carries in his 1st year) 4 fumbles (2 each year) Le’Veon Bell 244 carries 1 fumble Expand Every time he runs with the ball I cringe because I know he’s a fumbler. We can do better.
JerseyBills Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 Basically a solid #2 behind Moss who looked very good imo.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 12:48 AM, Rew said: We have one of the best performing right tackles in the league. Are you seeing something else in his performance or are you worried about contract? Expand His contract this upcoming offseason. They need to bring him back or find a replacement.
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