Roundybout Posted August 16 Posted August 16 1 hour ago, SCBills said: 4D Chess.. or something. We should be disrespecting Trump. He has done nothing to earn my or other decent Americans’ respect. 2 1
SCBills Posted August 16 Posted August 16 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: We should be disrespecting Trump. He has done nothing to earn my or other decent Americans’ respect. I don’t respect him. The issue for people like me is that your party doesn’t respect us. You're simping for a career leftist who has a white minstrel show as VP. Her policies and his bs act are far more offensive to me and invasive into my life than a man I don’t respect but has tolerable policies. 1
Roundybout Posted August 16 Posted August 16 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SCBills said: I don’t respect him. The issue for people like me is that your party doesn’t respect us. You're simping for a career leftist who has a white minstrel show as VP. Her policies and his bs act are far more offensive to me and invasive into my life than a man I don’t respect but has tolerable policies. I’ll respect your party again when it stops running Trump and kicks out the populist garbage like MTG. Edited August 16 by Roundybout 1 1 1
SCBills Posted August 16 Posted August 16 Polls starting to settle in. 50/50 race in every sense of the word. National Polls on average pretty even from Trump +1 to Kamala +4, which electorally equates to a Trump landslide or close Kamala win Battlegrounds shifting back towards Trump with MI/WI still slight Harris leans but shrinking from what may have been her high point. PA/NV starting to lean back Trump. However, she could still see another bounce out of the DNC. 1
Big Blitz Posted August 16 Posted August 16 3 hours ago, SCBills said: Polls starting to settle in. They've moved from Trump by 6-8 to Trump plus 2. The hyper partisan Democrats that quit just woke up. That’s all that happened. They’ve made blue California a tad more blue. They aren’t letting her talk until they are 2 weeks thru next week’s woke fest. They want the first time the nation to hear from her to be Thursday night. And this will essentially be all you’ll hear: ”So much optimism.” “Never seen a phenomenon like this.” “The joy you can feel it in the room.” “Look at how unified!” “Haven’t seen anyone speak like this since Obama!” It’s all so embarrassing. 1
Big Blitz Posted August 16 Posted August 16 I can’t stop laughing. But this is so freaking embarrassing - the Democrats that have put up with and put this up should be absolutely embarrassed. If you had one ounce of intellectual honesty you know it’s a joke. 1
Starr-Bills Posted August 16 Posted August 16 4 hours ago, SCBills said: I don’t respect him. The issue for people like me is that your party doesn’t respect us. You're simping for a career leftist who has a white minstrel show as VP. Her policies and his bs act are far more offensive to me and invasive into my life than a man I don’t respect but has tolerable policies. Maybe try respecting others. what about her policies are offensive. I’m truly curious. what policies do you want? Thing about a Harris administration and the lib/commie/marxist is we’ll listen to your feelings and try and solve a problem. Folding your arms and going hummp isn’t a policy discussion.
SCBills Posted August 16 Posted August 16 18 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: Maybe try respecting others. what about her policies are offensive. I’m truly curious. what policies do you want? Thing about a Harris administration and the lib/commie/marxist is we’ll listen to your feelings and try and solve a problem. Folding your arms and going hummp isn’t a policy discussion. No limits on abortion, forget religious implications, is ethically wrong. Barbaric even. We know that babies can feel pain at around 15 weeks. Therefore, allowing elective abortion after that time period is truly evil, imo. Allowing children to make life altering decisions about their sex/gender, and furthermore limiting parents in their efforts to view it as a phase (which for many it is). The Biden-Harris handling of the border erodes our culture, depleted our resources and allows drugs/criminals into this country that otherwise would be drastically mitigated. The border bill proposed was a joke, and essentially codified 3,000 illegal immigrants per day to cross. I’m not anti-immigration, but what has been done for the past 3 years is not sustainable & not safe. Higher taxes, specifically on a business owner like myself. I pay an absurd amount of taxes already.. that will increase under Harris’s perceived economic policy. I will never forgive authoritarian Democrats for their handling of Covid. My brother was strong armed into getting it under OSHA in order to keep his job and had heart issues that landed him in the hospital days later. A look on website indicates that all her staff and satellite office managers are required to have up to date Covid boosters, which is unscientific and illogical. Evidence that she would easily fall back to authoritarian tendencies should another national emergency arise. Foreign wars. I don’t believe we are respected. I don’t believe we are feared. I do believe aggression worldwide would continue under her and our involvement in forever proxy wars will continue in perpetuity. I’m speaking specifically of Ukraine here, of which we had an off ramp Zelenskyy could have taken early on but was told not to by the Biden Admin. Biological men in women’s sports and women’s locker rooms is disgraceful policy and a gross viewpoint to have. Biden-Harris Admin effectively dismantled Title IX about a month ago. Her economic policy is geared towards uninformed people who cannot anticipate consequences. Price controls and money printer goes brrrrrr. Guess we didn’t learn from the Soviets or Venezuelans and apparently covid spending and three years of crippling inflation for the average American was imaginary. But her policy is geared towards people who are desperate and uninformed. Cannot draw the parallels to Covid spending or anticipate what comes after. Never read a history book to see what price controls yield … read Warren/Casey’s Bill on this in the Senate .. the likely template for Harris. It’s insane policy … the FTC can use any metric they see fit to determine what is “price gouging” and then set rates or fine companies. Recklessly idiotic policy and we already know the outcome. 1 1
4th&long Posted August 16 Posted August 16 The election workers have panic buttons that alter the police because of that piece of sh it running for office. 1
SCBills Posted August 17 Posted August 17 53 minutes ago, 4th&long said: The election workers have panic buttons that alter the police because of that piece of sh it running for office. Sure .. also, they could help themselves by not being incompetent and counting votes in a timely manner. Maybe don’t have a water main break in Fulton County delaying ballot counting. I know they counted mail in ballots last, which skewed heavy Dem .. also it’s a heavy Dem area, but having a vote drop in the middle of the night like we saw in 2020 due to incompetence is asking for these issues to arise. Florida manages to get their vote counting done day of .. Georgia can surely figure it out too
Big Blitz Posted August 17 Posted August 17 1 hour ago, 4th&long said: The election workers have panic buttons that alter the police because of that piece of sh it running for office. He was shot in the face and has to have bullet proof glass in front of his speeches now. So sorry they have to have a panic button - hopefully it doesn’t connect them to a social worker. 2
Scraps Posted August 17 Posted August 17 38 minutes ago, SCBills said: Sure .. also, they could help themselves by not being incompetent and counting votes in a timely manner. Maybe don’t have a water main break in Fulton County delaying ballot counting. I know they counted mail in ballots last, which skewed heavy Dem .. also it’s a heavy Dem area, but having a vote drop in the middle of the night like we saw in 2020 due to incompetence is asking for these issues to arise. Florida manages to get their vote counting done day of .. Georgia can surely figure it out too Florida counts mail in ballots before election day. This was suggested in some of the battlegound states and rejected by GOP controlled legislatures. 1
SCBills Posted August 17 Posted August 17 38 minutes ago, Scraps said: Florida counts mail in ballots before election day. This was suggested in some of the battlegound states and rejected by GOP controlled legislatures. Idiotic, if that’s the case. Whatever Florida does to be one of the largest states and have things sorted out day of should be adopted across the nation.
SCBills Posted August 17 Posted August 17 Kodak Black and Fivio Foreign dropped a track featuring Trump .. what world is this 🤣🤣
Gene Frenkle Posted August 17 Posted August 17 On 8/14/2024 at 6:24 PM, Tommy Callahan said: Adderall is truly amazing. Do you want communist heath care for everyone? Because this is how you get communist health care for everyone...
Starr-Bills Posted August 17 Posted August 17 12 hours ago, SCBills said: Allowing children to make life altering decisions about their sex/gender, and furthermore limiting parents in their efforts to view it as a phase (which for many it is). The Biden-Harris handling of the border erodes our culture, depleted our resources and allows drugs/criminals into this country that otherwise would be drastically mitigated. The border bill proposed was a joke, and essentially codified 3,000 illegal immigrants per day to cross. I’m not anti-immigration, but what has been done for the past 3 years is not sustainable & not safe. Higher taxes, specifically on a business owner like myself. I pay an absurd amount of taxes already.. that will increase under Harris’s perceived economic policy. I will never forgive authoritarian Democrats for their handling of Covid. My brother was strong armed into getting it under OSHA in order to keep his job and had heart issues that landed him in the hospital days later. A look on website indicates that all her staff and satellite office managers are required to have up to date Covid boosters, which is unscientific and illogical. Evidence that she would easily fall back to authoritarian tendencies should another national emergency arise. Foreign wars. I don’t believe we are respected. I don’t believe we are feared. I do believe aggression worldwide would continue under her and our involvement in forever proxy wars will continue in perpetuity. I’m speaking specifically of Ukraine here, of which we had an off ramp Zelenskyy could have taken early on but was told not to by the Biden Admin. Biological men in women’s sports and women’s locker rooms is disgraceful policy and a gross viewpoint to have. Biden-Harris Admin effectively dismantled Title IX about a month ago. Her economic policy is geared towards uninformed people who cannot anticipate consequences. Price controls and money printer goes brrrrrr. Guess we didn’t learn from the Soviets or Venezuelans and apparently covid spending and three years of crippling inflation for the average American was imaginary. But her policy is geared towards people who are desperate and uninformed. Cannot draw the parallels to Covid spending or anticipate what comes after. Never read a history book to see what price controls yield … read Warren/Casey’s Bill on this in the Senate .. the likely template for Harris. It’s insane policy … the FTC can use any metric they see fit to determine what is “price gouging” and then set rates or fine companies. Recklessly idiotic policy and we already know the outcome. Thanks for taking the time to respond. I am persistently surprised at the social issues dominating these discussions. It’s my understanding that most (vast majority) after 15 weeks are health of the mother/no viable genetic disease related. I disagree that it’s evil and instead believe it’s wrong to not provide parents and babies with better post birth support. Longer maternity leave, tax credits, etc. Allowing children to make life altering decisions about their sex/gender, and furthermore limiting parents in their efforts to view it as a phase (which for many it is). Again I think this is a canard to distract, but having been a teen, parents can be cruel and kids can’t support themselves so they have to hide who they are. To me destigmatizing people choices of who they are would go a long way to taking the temp on this down, from both sides (parent and child) this strikes me as punitive and blaming the victim for making the parent uncomfortable. I’ve also know friend with kids who have experimented and ended up “normal and letting kids feel free to experiment and find their truth rather than being forced into something that leads to years of struggle and shame seems a better way. Again my understanding of the border is that not much changed, and even title 42 was foisted back on them by the SCOTUS. The entire boarder issues strikes me as performative (the felon canning the bill for political gain, doing nothing while pres and the nothing burger since GB II from R’s is my reasoning, easy to dump on D’s). So solutions. Increase agents, and capacity, use tech to track asylum seekers, issue everyone a ss card and tax them. Hold employers to standards for hiring non-us citizens. Note the no tax on cash tip is ripe for exploiting undocumented workers…. I gave Steve a big bonus, and he paid the construction crew. I think people are going to come no matter what, responsibility adding them to society is a net benefit. Business’ operate at the pleasure of the government. You get a business license. Business taxes are too low in my opinion, but that mostly relates to large and multi national corps. A progressive tax rate is the most fair, make more pay more. And an alternative minimum on large corps to ensure they are paying something. Additionally providing small and medium sized business with access to capital or employee development/growth tax credits seems like a win win to me. Paying tax means you are making a profit, the taxes help provide the environment for that to continue (roads, defense etc.) as you can tell I strongly believe in regulation, 40 hour weeks, weekends, safety standards etc. I’m sorry to hear about your brother. I do hope he is okay now. COVID is joke. But the scientific evidence to me seems to say the vaccines are safe statistically though nothing is 100%) and the vaccines have allowed Covid to rage though the population for the last 2 years with a huge decrease in adverse outcomes. That said I don’t know the particulars of your and your brother’s situation. Again I’m sorry he was caught in between. Boosters are not unusual, flu shots for example, additionally Covid was/is novel so boosters help the immune system adapt is my understanding. I don’t find the Covid response as authoritarian however, it seems to me more like traffic rules, right side of the road, speed limit etc, designed for the common good. Could there be nuance sure. We are not at war. Respected. Interesting choice of words. Also I m not sure what off ramp there was, Ukraine can not as a country let 20% of its population be tortures murdered and raped because it’s uncomfortable for the US. I liken it to someone invading your neighbors home, do you give them a gun and one bullet and tell them that it’s only a couple rooms and they have two other daughters so so don’t worry about the one they have upstairs ? Do you give them enough to clear their house and save their daughter. I think the use of US weapons (ATCAMs for example a 30-40 year old design wiping out top end Russian AD assets at will) seems to speak to US power. We are not involved in a proxy war. We provide Ukraine with old weapons to protect themselves, and we by buy new ones for our troops. 5% 10% of the Defense budget. It might be the biggest jobs program in history (and there are issues with socialism for large defense corps but kinda a separate issue). I have strong views on the war against Ukraine. They signed an agreement relinquishing their inherited atomic weapons. We agreed to protect the and Russia agreed to not invade. We should have done a lot more in 2014. We should have done a lot more in 2022-23-24. The issue to me is not do people respect us or seems more like you are saying fear us, vs will they trust us to stand with them and stand up for our word. The latter is more important to me. Biden could have done more, done it faster and in greater quantities imho, but I’m not a general just an interested nerd. However providing more sooner could have sent a much stronger message to potential troublemakers (which are all instigated by Putin) that we are serious and they should sit the ***** down. Biological men in women’s sports and women’s locker rooms is disgraceful policy and a gross viewpoint to have. Biden-Harris Admin effectively dismantled Title IX about a month ago. Eh, this is not important to me to be honest. Orgs set the rules parent weigh in, kids can choose to participate or not. If enough don’t then the rules change. While,looking at this chart the changes seem pretty minor. what is obvious is this ‘issue” is designed to demand outrage and create a binary choice / single issue vote decision. (Similar to abortion, or talk about ‘family’). Well there are already ways (and it seems pretty standard) to prevent price gouging in emergencies. And there are anti trust laws to prevent monopolies from price fixing themselves. Again what is the point of government. To me it is ‘we the people creating a more perfect union’, it’s not corporate profits. Now small business & corporations may be needed to employ people but that doesn’t give them cabtblac to pollute or abuse or unlimited profits, since their workers have to live as well. This is the balance and frankly I believe the balance has been off since the 1980’s when Regan and the neo cons desired the ‘starve the beast’ for their gain. Just like unions and corporations there needs to be a balance if either side wins too much then it unbalance the situation. In my opinion the pendulum has been on the side of corporations the last 40+ years and it needs to swing back towards serving the people. at the end of the day, I don’t see our positions is too far apart. I see them more on a continuum. I do see the social issues as ways to divide and inflame. And I do see the choice between an administration you could negotiate with Harris versus an administration that is going to sell everyone out to the benefit of one person. Think you like the policies now once he’s in charge it’s whatever he wants or more likely whatever who pays him the most wants. Related to above. About manufactured outrage.
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