K D Posted November 1 Posted November 1 2 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: I didn’t edit the clip. It’s publicly available and there are dozens of him saying the same thing. “The enemy within.” We’ve been listening to him threaten violence for over a decade. Deep state, lefties, woke, blacks, women, libs, commies, ######s, Puerto Ricans, RINOS, etc etc… shooting Americans, threatening to shoot Americans is wrong. Should be disqualifying for anyone who wants to hold office. Just my opinion as an American. And who decides who are the deep state, who are the bad people? the president doesn’t decide that’s what the justice system is for and the justice system has proper process and punishment for crimes. Not some made up amorphous enemy. You’re also moving the goal posts constantly. I didn’t say anything about Puerto Rican garbage island, a comedian vetted by a candidate for the presidency of the United States. Made that comment. You went from this is why I’ll never vote for a left us too. It’s OK if we shoot a few people just because they’re the bad people and we’ll figure out who the bad people are. I trust Trump to figure out who the bad people are because it’s the people I don’t like. and as I’ve said, former vice president Cheney should be held to account for dragging us into Iraq, for the thousands of American soldiers killed and the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi’s killed for his profit. Do you think I’m against protecting the troops? You don’t know me but I’ve said for decades the best way to protect the troops is to not send them anywhere. I’m a lefty but I’m also an American. When you post things saying he says something he didn't it's in bad faith and gets is nowhere. He didn't say he was going to shoot Liz Cheney. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If people on both sides call the media out for this kind of stuff then maybe we can have honest and fair elections. Trump is not Hitler, I am not a Nazi, I am not garbage. I am also an American. 1
4th&long Posted November 1 Posted November 1 8 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’m not certain what you’ve heard about calls for “murders”. I googled what you wrote, and see a series of articles stating that Trump has called for the death penalty for people here illegally and who are guilty of murdering American citizens. If you’re seeing something else about “murder of Americans”, what is it? You can’t be this stupid? No wonder this country is in the trouble it is. 1
SectionC3 Posted November 1 Posted November 1 4 minutes ago, K D said: When you post things saying he says something he didn't it's in bad faith and gets is nowhere. He didn't say he was going to shoot Liz Cheney. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If people on both sides call the media out for this kind of stuff then maybe we can have honest and fair elections. Trump is not Hitler, I am not a Nazi, I am not garbage. I am also an American. I actually agree with some of this. I watched the clip. Trump is a moron, he's lost the benefit of the doubt, and he shouldn't have said what he did as he did given his history of double talk, inference, and subtle direction to his follows. But he also didn't call for her execution, and tried, very inartfully and very poorly, to suggest that someone who is eager to send others to war should appreciate the risks taken by those directed to fight. The point about "honest and fair elections" is patently absurd. We have them right now. It's just that some criminals and thugs and insurrections didn't like the result last time and then stormed the Capitol. Now, and even before then, many people bought into the grievances and fantasy that "they" or the "the media" somehow make elections unfair. I don't interpret the Liz Cheney remarks differently from you. I can see how others might interpret them differently, and reasonably so. But a headline about that interpretation on Drudge or CNN or any other media outlet that you disagree with does not make an election unfair. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 1 Posted November 1 4 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: I didn’t edit the clip. It’s publicly available and there are dozens of him saying the same thing. “The enemy within.” We’ve been listening to him threaten violence for over a decade. Deep state, lefties, woke, blacks, women, libs, commies, ######s, Puerto Ricans, RINOS, etc etc… shooting Americans, threatening to shoot Americans is wrong. Should be disqualifying for anyone who wants to hold office. Just my opinion as an American. And who decides who are the deep state, who are the bad people? the president doesn’t decide that’s what the justice system is for and the justice system has proper process and punishment for crimes. Not some made up amorphous enemy. You’re also moving the goal posts constantly. I didn’t say anything about Puerto Rican garbage island, a comedian vetted by a candidate for the presidency of the United States. Made that comment. You went from this is why I’ll never vote for a left us too. It’s OK if we shoot a few people just because they’re the bad people and we’ll figure out who the bad people are. I trust Trump to figure out who the bad people are because it’s the people I don’t like. and as I’ve said, former vice president Cheney should be held to account for dragging us into Iraq, for the thousands of American soldiers killed and the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi’s killed for his profit. Do you think I’m against protecting the troops? You don’t know me but I’ve said for decades the best way to protect the troops is to not send them anywhere. I’m a lefty but I’m also an American. I see you’ve learned a new trick from BIMF. Cool. Video: Trump's History of Encouraging Violence The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com › video › trump-and-violence Trump's History of Encouraging ViolenceTrump's History of Encouraging Violence. By AINARA TIEFENTHÄLER •March 14, 2016. Donald J. Trump has appealed to the ... Trump turns to darker rhetoric as voting begins NPR https://www.npr.org › 2024/09/30 › trump-speech-insul... Sep 30, 2024 — In a pair of weekend events in key swing states, Trump claimed Harris is "mentally disabled" and went on to suggest police violence could ... Missing: superCut | Show results with: superCut Brutal Video Exposes Republicans After Trump's Bloody ... The New Republic https://newrepublic.com › breaking-news Sep 10, 2024 — Donald Trump is running his 2024 campaign on vengeance, even if his allies deny it. In response to Trump's violent threats against his ... Trump's Ugly Calls For Violence Laid Out In Chilling New ... Yahoo https://www.yahoo.com › news › trumps-ugly-calls-viol... Apr 3, 2024 — The minute-long video from Biden's campaign team shows Trump calling for violence against protesters at his rallies. Trump under fire again for comments on police violence ... YouTube · PBS NewsHour 89.5K+ views · 1 month ago Trump under fire again for comments on police violence and Harris' mental competence. 89K views · 1 month ago ...more. PBS NewsHour. 4.37M. Missing: threatening | Show results with: threatening Trump under fire again for violent language and ... YouTube · PBS NewsHour 27.1K+ views · 7 months ago Former President Donald Trump is under fire again ... Trump under fire again for violentlanguage and dehumanizing anti-immigrant rhetoric. Trump mainstreams political violence with normalizing ... MSNBC News https://www.msnbc.com › alex-wagner-tonight › watch Jan 12, 2024 — Alex Wagner looks at how Donald Trump's regular use of violent rhetoric has desensitized the public as the legal and political atmosphere surrounding Trump Trump's Ugly Calls For Violence Laid Out In Chilling Supercut HuffPost https://www.huffpost.com › entry › trump-violence-sup... Apr 3, 2024 — President Joe Biden's campaign team slammed Donald Trump for his open embrace of violence with a supercut video reminding voters of just how ... President Trump Encouraging Violence, a Supercut Facebook · NowThis Impact 1.5K+ reactions · 6 years ago President Trump Encouraging Violence, a Supercut. President Trump encouraging violence, a supercut. L.A. Brown-Mag and 4.1K others. 4.8M Views. Missing: threatening | Show results with: threatening From 'Bloodbath' to 'Vermin:' Analyzing Trump's Rhetorical ... YouTube · The Wall Street Journal 54.2K+ views · 6 months ago Former president Donald Trump's inflammatory remarks about political rivals and immigration on the 2024 campaign trail have spurred concerns ... Andy made a pretty clear statement on what he believes to be true. I googled what he said and can’t find a link for Trump calling for “murders of Americans”. If you had a link calling for murders, I’d think you would provide it. Providing links on narratives and opinions of what people are telling you to think is akin to thinking Harris was unpopular until someone told you she was the One True Choice. You’re getting paranoid and taking up bandwidth, BillStarr. Provide the link or stop wasting time. 2
K D Posted November 1 Posted November 1 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: I actually agree with some of this. I watched the clip. Trump is a moron, he's lost the benefit of the doubt, and he shouldn't have said what he did as he did given his history of double talk, inference, and subtle direction to his follows. But he also didn't call for her execution, and tried, very inartfully and very poorly, to suggest that someone who is eager to send others to war should appreciate the risks taken by those directed to fight. The point about "honest and fair elections" is patently absurd. We have them right now. It's just that some criminals and thugs and insurrections didn't like the result last time and then stormed the Capitol. Now, and even before then, many people bought into the grievances and fantasy that "they" or the "the media" somehow make elections unfair. I don't interpret the Liz Cheney remarks differently from you. I can see how others might interpret them differently, and reasonably so. But a headline about that interpretation on Drudge or CNN or any other media outlet that you disagree with does not make an election unfair. You started off well but then lost the message. You think the media doesn't influence elections? Or Google changing searches doesn't? There was a good podcast on Joe Rogan about this how this guy tracks all of this stuff. Spoiler alert, media influences elections
Starr-Bills Posted November 1 Posted November 1 3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Andy made a pretty clear statement on what he believes to be true. I googled what he said and can’t find a link for Trump calling for “murders of Americans”. If you had a link calling for murders, I’d think you would provide it. Providing links on narratives and opinions of what people are telling you to think is akin to thinking Harris was unpopular until someone told you she was the One True Choice. You’re getting paranoid and taking up bandwidth, BillStarr. Provide the link or stop wasting time. He said Cheney should be shot in the face. JD said she should be put before a war tribunal, again why was she potus? Was she vpotus? Not her father was so you’re okay with punishing people for the “sins of their fathers”? and talk about putting words in my mouth I’ve never said she was the “One True Choice” I’d be happy enough with Biden if he’d stayed in. She is the one choice that will allow us to make another choice in 4 years. But sure you decide how much I can post, you decide if what I’m posting is appropriate. Wrong. but you are showing your colors, again. 1 1
K D Posted November 1 Posted November 1 Just now, Starr-Bills said: He said Cheney should be shot in the face. JD said she should be put before a war tribunal, again why was she potus? Was she vpotus? Not her father was so you’re okay with punishing people for the “sins of their fathers”? and talk about putting words in my mouth I’ve never said she was the “One True Choice” I’d be happy enough with Biden if he’d stayed in. She is the one choice that will allow us to make another choice in 4 years. But sure you decide how much I can post, you decide if what I’m posting is appropriate. Wrong. but you are showing your colors, again. If you think he said she should be "shot in the face" then there's not much to discuss. I think you are too far gone to have honest dialogue. 1
4th&long Posted November 1 Posted November 1 5 minutes ago, K D said: If you think he said she should be "shot in the face" then there's not much to discuss. I think you are too far gone to have honest dialogue. Here we go, got to defend trump at all costs again. If Harris said this you idiots would be losing your minds. 1
SectionC3 Posted November 1 Posted November 1 11 minutes ago, K D said: You started off well but then lost the message. You think the media doesn't influence elections? Or Google changing searches doesn't? There was a good podcast on Joe Rogan about this how this guy tracks all of this stuff. Spoiler alert, media influences elections So do commercials and campaigns and Twitter and candidates. That doesn’t mean that elections are unfair. You whine about a lot of stuff, including “the media.” My suggestion is to have better ideas and maybe you’ll get a majority of people to vote for them. 1
K D Posted November 1 Posted November 1 6 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: So do commercials and campaigns and Twitter and candidates. That doesn’t mean that elections are unfair. You whine about a lot of stuff, including “the media.” My suggestion is to have better ideas and maybe you’ll get a majority of people to vote for them. Nah I've read enough end of the world books to know media propaganda is bad. Owning the media should not allow you to influence elections. Now that is literally fascism. The fascists calling the other guy fascist is crazy. Both parties should want unbiased media. What if Trump ends the free broadcasting rights and the news goes bankrupt and Elon and Peter Thiel buy all of the networks for cheap and put out their own propaganda. I bet you would be against it then.
Starr-Bills Posted November 1 Posted November 1 25 minutes ago, K D said: If you think he said she should be "shot in the face" then there's not much to discuss. I think you are too far gone to have honest dialogue. You might want to do a little self exploration. https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/mental-health/victim-blaming 1 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 1 Posted November 1 36 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: He said Cheney should be shot in the face. JD said she should be put before a war tribunal, again why was she potus? Was she vpotus? Not her father was so you’re okay with punishing people for the “sins of their fathers”? and talk about putting words in my mouth I’ve never said she was the “One True Choice” I’d be happy enough with Biden if he’d stayed in. She is the one choice that will allow us to make another choice in 4 years. But sure you decide how much I can post, you decide if what I’m posting is appropriate. Wrong. but you are showing your colors, again. I wasn’t talking about putting words in your mouth, that was you, silly. I’ll repeat. Andy1 made a statement. I asked for additional information after a google search didn’t return links consistent with what he claimed. You linked opinion pieces, which is wholly different than providing a link proving what Andy1 said to be true. You can do that in your next post. Now, you’re making declarations of your own. I listened to the Trump/Rogan convo and didn’t catch any part about murdering Americans. I’m halfway through the Vance interview, will likely finish up tonight and no comments about murdering anyone there yet, either. If you can muster the energy to send the link detailing what Andy1 said, that would be appreciated. In the meantime, you’re offering up garbage and garbage ain’t cool these days. 1 hour ago, 4th&long said: You can’t be this stupid? No wonder this country is in the trouble it is. Don’t you dare underestimate me. You must have the link, surely. Why are you holding back? 1
Starr-Bills Posted November 1 Posted November 1 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I wasn’t talking about putting words in your mouth, that was you, silly. I’ll repeat. Andy1 made a statement. I asked for additional information after a google search didn’t return links consistent with what he claimed. You linked opinion pieces, which is wholly different than providing a link proving what Andy1 said to be true. You can do that in your next post. Now, you’re making declarations of your own. I listened to the Trump/Rogan convo and didn’t catch any part about murdering Americans. I’m halfway through the Vance interview, will likely finish up tonight and no comments about murdering anyone there yet, either. If you can muster the energy to send the link detailing what Andy1 said, that would be appreciated. In the meantime, you’re offering up garbage and garbage ain’t cool these days. Don’t you dare underestimate me. You must have the link, surely. Why are you holding back? It's not just me.
wnyguy Posted November 1 Posted November 1 2 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: It's not just me. It is insane that anyone, and I mean anyone, would believe this nonsense. I don't care who you support, anyone who sees this and believes it is beyond help. Dammit, I got caught in their trap again. Spewing garbage just to get a reaction. Well done Starrsy. 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted November 1 Posted November 1 2 hours ago, Starr-Bills said: He said Cheney should be shot in the face. JD said she should be put before a war tribunal, again why was she potus? Was she vpotus? Not her father was so you’re okay with punishing people for the “sins of their fathers”? and talk about putting words in my mouth I’ve never said she was the “One True Choice” I’d be happy enough with Biden if he’d stayed in. She is the one choice that will allow us to make another choice in 4 years. But sure you decide how much I can post, you decide if what I’m posting is appropriate. Wrong. but you are showing your colors, again. Posting and eating paste! Look at you go! Holy ***** you need to go meet reality.
Andy1 Posted November 1 Posted November 1 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’m not certain what you’ve heard about calls for “murders”. I googled what you wrote, and see a series of articles stating that Trump has called for the death penalty for people here illegally and who are guilty of murdering American citizens. If you’re seeing something else about “murder of Americans”, what is it? See post above mine re him saying Liz Cheney should be shot in the face with nine rifles. Why specify nine? Has he researched how it is done? Speaking in such specificity is not debating the merits of how the military is used.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted November 1 Posted November 1 1 minute ago, Andy1 said: See post above mine re him saying Liz Cheney should be shot in the face with nine rifles. Why specify nine? Has he researched how it is done? Speaking in such specificity is not debating the merits of how the military is used. I think you should log off for today.
SCBills Posted November 1 Posted November 1 100% Its never been more apparent than during this election season.. They are the enemy of the people. North Korean levels of propaganda have been laid upon the American public. It happened during Covid and is happening again now. 1 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 1 Posted November 1 2 minutes ago, Andy1 said: See post above mine re him saying Liz Cheney should be shot in the face with nine rifles. Why specify nine? Has he researched how it is done? Speaking in such specificity is not debating the merits of how the military is used. Ah, another Gumby argument to fit a narrative. I figured that might be the case--not because I think you're an intentionally dishonest poster like some others here--but because a declaration of the magnitude you made surely would garner a ton of press, and represent an easy find on the internet. What I can tell you with certainty is that while you're bending into a pretzel to reimagine comments in obviously unintended way, the people you support oversaw the security and safety of their political rival, that so failed so badly that a simpleton nearly assassinated him. From wandering around the grounds with a rifle, to ignoring concerns from citizens, to climbing on the roof of the building of one of the command centers--it's quite reasonable to question how much was incompetence and how much intentional from Team Harris. But carry on, Andrew.
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