Flores: Tua benched, not hurt

[Warcodered]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

Tua is trash when not bailed out by the Defense and ST. 

I mean he's a rookie, but yeah turns out NFL football is a little harder than he thought.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

But are you also telling 50 other guys that one kid's development is more important to you than winning games right now?

 

Taking that line of argument to its logical conclusion, what did you tell those 50 other guys when you yanked Fitzy for Tua?

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

I mean he's a rookie, but yeah turns out NFL football is a little harder than he thought.

Not impressed just a more hyped CPT Checkdown Edwards. 

[rayray808]

Tua Many Mistakes

[Ethan in Cleveland]

9 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

He has no deep ball proficiency and lacks awareness under pressure. 

 

His D/ST couldn't bail him out this week and after 3 weeks of tape we all saw the real Tua. 

 

Verdict: Still early but,....... MEH.......

Everyone in the league was saying the same thing about Allen after his first season. Maybe give it a little longer

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

If the long term plan took precedent, they would have left him in if he was healthy. Jmo

It makes no sense to me because he was clearly only in there due to the long term plan and then they change their mind in the middle of this game? 🤣 like 'oh wait we are in the middle of a playoff race thats right'... what are they doing down there in Miami lol

[Doc]

FItting after his comments earlier in the week. What a tual. 

 

But a bad move long-term. Especially with the team losing anyway.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Everyone in the league was saying the same thing about Allen after his first season. Maybe give it a little longer

I think anyone would tell you josh is an absolute freak of nature size/athleticism wise and his ceiling was high even back then though I dont think Tua is really in that category as much...not saying he won't be good though I just dont think he'll be great

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Taking that line of argument to its logical conclusion, what did you tell those 50 other guys when you yanked Fitzy for Tua?

I disagreed with the decision but at that point you could still have gotten away with "we're trying to get better right now".

Now he's got himself in a much more complicated situation.

[BillsFan130]

Tua looked awful. Arm looked weak, late on throws, too many sacks.

 

Not a good day for him at all

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

What do you see as their long-term plan?

 

 

I think they want to give him This year and next to develop, in order to Contend in 2022-23. They’ll be using their significant draft capital over the next few years to infuse the team with talent and depth all Around him. Could Be wrong— but that makes the most sense to me. 

[Green Lightning]

18 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Remember this from way back... maybe 6 days ago?

 

 “I expected it to be a lot harder,” Tagovailoa told Pro Football Talk.

And that is leading with your chin. Dumbass thing to say and it only took NFL DCs a few games to disrupt his little glide path. Happily Fitz tossed a pick on cue!

[MJS]

But I thought Miami was one of those mythical "good" teams that don't lose to losing teams...

[Beast]

12 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

So like Lamar then

Only not nearly as good.

[muppy]

I'll take all the dolphin disunity and coaching snafus I can get.  Better for us in the long run I think.  Their O line did Tua no favors today either. They benching him and announcing it wasn't health related is going to rock his confidence...GOOD I say.

[billsbackto81]

3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Everyone in the league was saying the same thing about Allen after his first season. Maybe give it a little longer

True, but....

Allen showed elite arm strength, elite athleticism and jaw dropping play ability in his first year and a half. All with Zay Jones, K. Benjamin, R. Foster, F. Gore and other stellar players LOL!!!

 

What has Tua shown? That he can manage a game once his D/ST spots him 14 points and a short field. 

 

He's accurate and may get better with more talent but as of right now,....MEH!...

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

And that is leading with your chin. Dumbass thing to say and it only took NFL DCs a few games to disrupt his little glide path. Happily Fitz tossed a pick on cue!

Got to love Denver's plan "But what if we hit him like really hard."

[Don Otreply]

12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Taking that line of argument to its logical conclusion, what did you tell those 50 other guys when you yanked Fitzy for Tua?

I’m guessing here, but maybe that the coach doesn’t have the answer? 

[JoPoy88]

5 minutes ago, Simon said:

I disagreed with the decision but at that point you could still have gotten away with "we're trying to get better right now".

Now he's got himself in a much more complicated situation.

He certainly has. And “getting better right now” could have involved a bunch of different changes that didn’t include benching fitz, who was playing very well at the time. Now they’ve driven the first dagger into this kid’s confidence for really very little reason. Sure you want to beat Denver and stay on pace with the Bills but is being one game back (plus a half with the Bills’ tiebreaker) that bad a situation?

[MJS]

Only a fool puts Fitzpatrick in when the game is on the line. Guarenteed INT.

 

Fitzpatrick is really good when he is managing a winning effort, but he is terrible when you need him to win the game for you. He is the opposite of clutch.