What will a Jon Feliciano and Daryl Williams extension look like?

[GunnerBill]

13 minutes ago, billspro said:

I wish, I think Feliciano will probably be 5 years 35 million and Williams will be 2 years 20 million. If they keep playing well that cost will continue to go up. 

 

I am not sure I'd pay Feliciano if it is at $7m per. He is our best run blocker and he gives great position flex between C/G but if we are going to be a pass first offense he is an average pass blocker and it doesn't make a lot of scheme sense. It is hard because he is the only proven guard we have currently but for a pass first team $7m on a guard whose strength is run blocking feels a bit rich.

[Real McClappy]

Just keep JA and the Oline intact. Most important puzzle pieces of a successful team right there. 

[GreggTX]

33 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Lock both these guys up and draft all Defense

What FA TE's might be available? I want one of those too. I love the idea of all D draft. Go for a pair of CB's in rounds 1-3 and grab a great edge rusher or NT or LB.

[ghostwriter]

44 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Lock both these guys up and draft all Defense

 

3 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

What FA TE's might be available? I want one of those too. I love the idea of all D draft. Go for a pair of CB's in rounds 1-3 and grab a great edge rusher or NT or LB.

Ted Washington NT to pair with Oliver and Star pleeeeease..

[klos63]

1 hour ago, GreggTX said:

I'm not of the impression that Feliciano is anything other than average. Daryl Williams just made someone's all-pro team at the midpoint of this season. At least they are both experienced. Signing Williams to an extension should be a top priority. We need to draft or trade for a better pair of starting G's. I'd like Feliciano to backup at C and G, but I don't want to pay depth $7 mill/yr. We can find better starters. When will Morse be back?

Where can we find better starters and not pay a good sized contract?

1 hour ago, Real McNasty said:

Just keep JA and the Oline intact. Most important puzzle pieces of a successful team right there. 

Dawkins, Ford , Morse, Feliciano and Williams is an above average line.  I agree with you.

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

I thought Williams, signed a three year deal.

[billspro]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am not sure I'd pay Feliciano if it is at $7m per. He is our best run blocker and he gives great position flex between C/G but if we are going to be a pass first offense he is an average pass blocker and it doesn't make a lot of scheme sense. It is hard because he is the only proven guard we have currently but for a pass first team $7m on a guard whose strength is run blocking feels a bit rich.

 
He seems to be the heart and soul of the line. The rest of the guys play better when he is out there. This front office values that type of leadership. I hope we get him for less. I think he is going to get paid though. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

2 hours ago, Penfield45 said:

your joking right 

 

Klein is a mediocre player and nowhere near the talent Milano is LOL 

Come on, read what I wrote. Notice how nobody is talking about Milano this week? Or at the very least panicking over him being out against Murray? That could all change if Klein and Edmunds look lost and a step late all game. 
 

[HappyDays]

Am I crazy to want Williams re-signed over Milano? I think they would earn a similar contract. Give me the guy that I know will make an impact on the game every week. I've seen enough of the Cyrus Kouandjios and Jordan Mills of the football world to give up the first good RT we've had in years.

[atlbillsfan1975]

4 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

I think they’re both goners to be honest. With the cap dropping and the relative ease of filling RT and off-ball LB, they’re more likely to let them walk and take the comp picks. Bring back Ty at RT and draft a few LBs.

You are probably right about Williams. Small chance he could take a slight pay cut to stay in Buffalo at RT. Winning and culture seem to be helping lower the pay scale for the Bills after years going the other way.
I am all for drafting a LB early and late. Never been a fan of paying anyone at LB unless he is top 5 talent that rarely gets hurt. Possibly Edmunds in 2 years. 

[GunnerBill]

16 minutes ago, billspro said:

 
He seems to be the heart and soul of the line. The rest of the guys play better when he is out there. This front office values that type of leadership. I hope we get him for less. I think he is going to get paid though. 

 

Yea I love the attitude. Just think that is hard to put a value on. $5-6m per would work for me. More than that I am struggling.

[BarleyNY]

5 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

You can probably kiss Williams goodbye; if he stays healthy he’s a $14M AAV on the open market.

 

Mongo you’ve got a shot. He may take a similar deal to Spain with a slight bump in total and guarantees.

 

My guess is that they get Mongo done and re-sign Nsekhe to play RT.

Totally agree across the board.  My immediate thought on Williams is a Conklin contract, which is exactly $14M AAV.  Mongo getting a contract just North of Spain’s is my thought too.  Nsekhe would be a solid short term solution at RT as well.  He’s 35 now so we’d need to draft someone to be the future, but he could hold the fort down for a year or so. 

[Don Otreply]

Beane will not let players of their impact just walk, without making an effort to come to an agreement, I don’t believe.  A bad O line makes for a mediocre QB, and that is not on the front offices list of things to have.. next season may be the year the Defense takes a bigger hit than the Offense in who gets let go... we shall see, 

 

Go Bills!!!

[Hampton Josh fan]

I don't know what the #s will be but these two must be retained. Feliciano sets the tone with a nasty edge and versatility and William's is really a pleasant suprise. He's solid.

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

I imagine for Feliciano they will look at the sort of deal they gave Spain before their falling out. 

 

Williams is tricky. I suspect he will be highly sought after. People forget he was a 2nd team all pro at RT before injury with Carolina. He will get paid I fear. 

We gotta keep Daryl WIlliams......they found gold there and Daryl isnt old

 

 

Mongo is a no brainer

 

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[Rc2catch]

Daryl Williams is long gone, of course I’d like him back. He’s gonna get a great above average contract if he stays healthy the rest of the year. I like consistency but we are to the point now where some great talent is gonna be leaving. 
I’d like Feliciano signed but gauging his market is much tougher. 
Gonna be another crazy offseason. Similar to what I said last year I’d rather trade our 1st rounder for someone proven and already signed up for 2-3 more years. Rather it’s a tackle or stud linebacker. 

[boater]

I remember in the Bills Superbowl era, they would try and keep key players. But they couldn't because the market cost was  too much. They lost Bruce Smith, Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed and others because they just didn't have the salary cap.

 

We will see a repeat of this conundrum this off-season. Except it will be worse with a decreasing salary cap.

 

The only way out of the hole is judicious signing of free agents and very smart drafting.

[Dkollidas]

I think Williams is gone bc like many said, he’s gonna get paid. 
 

I believe Milano will also be gone.

 

The O-Line just looks different with Feliciano. That combined with his flexibility snd Morse’s injury propensity leads me to believe he’ll get a deal slightly above what Spain got.

 

I believe they’ll re-sign Nsekhe to a vet minimum deal, maybe draft a guy late, and let those two, along with Bates battle it out for the RT job next year with Ford as the backup plan if it all goes to hell. 

[NickelCity]

Gotta keep Mongo. 

[ganesh]

It is possible Morse may retire due to these concussions.    That is a possibility that will play into paying Feliciano and Williams