Popular Post eball Posted November 11, 2020 Popular Post Posted November 11, 2020 ...from the Buffalo News this morning: "When people talk about quarterbacks, a lot of times they talk about intangibles and you never really know what that means," Hasselbeck said. "I just remember, when I got to Green Bay, Brett Favre was there and Andy Reid was the quarterback coach, and he basically laid out what he thought were the intangibles that Brett brought to the table. And some of those intangibles were the way that his teammates believe in him and rally around him and he sets the tone. The other thing Andy said was, 'Notice how Brett intimidates the opponent without even saying a word. Like when they get their game plan book, what are they saying? They're saying, 'Oh, boy, we got that guy. He can throw it all over the field. You can't rattle this guy. The harder the harder you hit him, the better he plays,' whatever it is that they might say.' Those are intangibles. "Some quarterbacks will never, ever, ever have those intangibles or certain intangibles. Josh has got them. I don't even know if he knows he's got them, but he's got them. And people fear his arm. They fear his athleticism. They fear his size. And I just know from watching the excitement (he creates for) his teammates. One of the things that Josh's teammates said he was, 'He's a stone-cold dog.' I said on the air, 'This guy's like a cowboy.' And people were like, 'Oh, is that a shout out to Wyoming?' I'm like, 'Yeah, kind of, but I really mean he's like a cowboy.' And it's infectious. Some guys have it, but very few do." 22 25 3
Rocket94 Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 Yes! It is in Josh Allen...you don't coach this kind of stuff! 3
Brennan Huff Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 Josh Allen is going to be better than Jim Kelly when it’s all said and done. 8 1 2
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 Oh boy we're crowning Josh Allen again. Can't the man play a good game without crowning him? We all know what happens now. He lays an egg in Arizona. 1
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Brennan Huff said: Josh Allen is going to be better than Jim Kelly when it’s all said and done. I watched them both, every game, and I think he has a real chance to be better. Not willing to say it definitevly, because of the resume Jim has. But, I suspect Jim knows himself how great Josh can be if he stays healthy and continues to improve. 6
YoloinOhio Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 I agree and I think the same about some have it and some don’t. Burrow has it. Darnold doesn’t. I’ve said that since he was at USC. I don’t think Herbert does. Still think he’s very good but I don’t see it. 4
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Oh boy we're crowning Josh Allen again. Can't the man play a good game without crowning him? We all know what happens now. He lays an egg in Arizona. Looking for emojis again Edited November 11, 2020 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower 2
Big Turk Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I agree and I think the same about some have it and some don’t. Burrow has it. Darnold doesn’t. I’ve said that since he was at USC. I don’t think Herbert does. Still think he’s very good but I don’t see it. I think the Chargers are cursed. Over the past 4 or 5 years that team has pulled defeat from the jaws of victory in ways even the Bills could never accomplish during their almost 2 decades of futility...it has continued this year...they are always seemingly in a place to pull out a win but rarely seem to do so. Doesn't matter who the coach is, the QB, the OC, the offensive players, etc...they still find mind boggling ways to lose every week. Edited November 11, 2020 by matter2003 1
The Wiz Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I agree and I think the same about some have it and some don’t. Burrow has it. Darnold doesn’t. I’ve said that since he was at USC. I don’t think Herbert does. Still think he’s very good but I don’t see it. I feel like I remember a quote from Jordan Palmer related to the differences between Darnold and Allen. Not sure if it was him or not but assuming based on him coaching with both of them. Something about the way the Darnold would do a rep and get it right once or twice and be done. Allen would do the drill for an hour or two after he got it right to make sure it was engrained in him. I know that's not an intangible but just shows his willingness to make sure he's not just learning what he needs to do but perfecting it. 1
teef Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Oh boy we're crowning Josh Allen again. Can't the man play a good game without crowning him? We all know what happens now. He lays an egg in Arizona. what's it like to live like this? 8 16 1 3
JMF2006 Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I think the Chargers are cursed. Over the past 4 or 5 years that team has pulled defeat from the jaws of victory in ways even the Bills could never accomplish during their almost 2 decades of futility...it has continued this year...they are always seemingly in a place to pull out a win but rarely seem to do so. Doesn't matter who the coach is, the QB, the OC, the offensive players, etc...they still find mind boggling ways to lose every week. Lets hope they are not close enough to give us all a heart attack Nov 29th 1
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 I think all of this is pretty accurate. The one thing I have felt about Josh from pretty early on is...I Know Josh Allen isn’t the actual best qb in the league. There are guys that are technically better and that’s probably not going to change. But Josh Allen just seems like he’s the best qb FOR this team. I don’t know how to really explain it or put it into words. Something about him just fits perfectly with the Bills. The way he plays, the way he acts, maybe even how he looks a little. The guy just randomly seems to be the absolute perfect fit as qb for the Buffalo Bills. To the point where, I don’t think I would rather have anyone else. This guy really just feels like he’s our guy. I will admit, I didn’t want him draft night and there were times last year when he drove me nuts...but I was absolutely wrong about him and it is literally impossible to not like this guy. He’s just the perfect qb for the Bills. 15 1
Scott7975 Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Oh boy we're crowning Josh Allen again. Can't the man play a good game without crowning him? We all know what happens now. He lays an egg in Arizona. Awe I'm so sorry that you've been wrong about Josh Allen. No I'm not. 1
Hebert19 Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I think all of this is pretty accurate. The one thing I have felt about Josh from pretty early on is...I Know Josh Allen isn’t the actual best qb in the league. There are guys that are technically better and that’s probably not going to change. But Josh Allen just seems like he’s the best qb FOR this team. I don’t know how to really explain it or put it into words. Something about him just fits perfectly with the Bills. The way he plays, the way he acts, maybe even how he looks a little. The guy just randomly seems to be the absolute perfect fit as qb for the Buffalo Bills. To the point where, I don’t think I would rather have anyone else. This guy really just feels like he’s our guy. I will admit, I didn’t want him draft night and there were times last year when he drove me nuts...but I was absolutely wrong about him and it is literally impossible to not like this guy. He’s just the perfect qb for the Bills. Hes not yet. His ceiling is as high as mahomes...he's obviously not there yet but that ceiling is as high as anyone who has ever played the game. Scary but true. And based on his work ethic and his improvements year to year he may actually have a chance to find that ceiling. 1
Mark80 Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Oh boy we're crowning Josh Allen again. Can't the man play a good game without crowning him? We all know what happens now. He lays an egg in Arizona. Or, perhaps it is just possible that the rest of us are seeing the big picture and how he has played at an MVP level for every game this season that he wasn't wearing a shoulder brace because he was playing through a dislocated shoulder for us (and we still went 2-2 in those games). Edited November 12, 2020 by Mark80 4
DCofNC Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 He’s changed my mind this year. I really didn’t think he could take the next step after watching all the terrible decisions last year. He’s had those intangibles all along and the team obviously loved him, but to see the leap he took this year where it’s all coming together for him, just awesome. I do think we are looking at a Big Ben type of guy here, first two years, nothing great (Ben was way more conservative), and as they get turned loose they just keep growing. Also, I don’t think Allen will ever be considered the best in the game, like Ben, but always a guy you would be happy to have and can definitely be a difference maker. He’s a franchise guy, no doubt. He’s going to rack up a lot of wins, throw for a lot of yards and leave you saying “wow” a lot, but he’s playing in the Maholmes era, probably never going to get the respect until he wins a title, by beating Maholmes to get there. 2 1
The Wiz Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Hebert19 said: Hes not yet. His ceiling is as high as mahomes...he's obviously not there yet but that ceiling is as high as anyone who has ever played the game. Scary but true. And based on his work ethic and his improvements year to year he may actually have a chance to find that ceiling. I have no clue what his ceiling might be but that Seattle game showed a pretty damn high ceiling. I think the thing that will take him to the next level of being a great QB is making his floor higher. I know ever QB is capable of a stinker and he has raised his floor this year for sure. Just keep bringing that floor up and he will be unstoppable. 6 1
CLTbills Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Oh boy we're crowning Josh Allen again. Can't the man play a good game without crowning him? We all know what happens now. He lays an egg in Arizona. Man, I bet you're fun at parties 3 1
Hebert19 Posted November 11, 2020 Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I have no clue what his ceiling might be but that Seattle game showed a pretty damn high ceiling. I think the thing that will take him to the next level of being a great QB is making his floor higher. I know ever QB is capable of a stinker and he has raised his floor this year for sure. Just keep bringing that floor up and he will be unstoppable. Thats a good call. Floor is now a top 15 QB. Which is about 15 positions higher than last year. 2
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