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5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Jackson also had to deal with secession. Had he opposed Georgia, South Carolina might have had an ally in secession. Just saying. At the same time the Seneca were being moved away from Buffalo to New York’s southern tier 

Thanks 

  Tiberius posting in a thread about having class?  That is too much irony for me.

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7 minutes ago, Figster said:

Donal Trump spent his whole presidency tied up in impeachment proceedings.


Now that’s an overstatement if I ever heard one - he found plenty of time to golf, ego surf on Fox News, Tweet out whatever deranged thought came into his pumpkin head, and campaign instead of govern.  

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10 hours ago, Backintheday544 said:


yes, because several people aren’t in jail right now (or released due to Cornavirus) due to the Mueller investigation.

 

Oh wait, there are multiple people in jail from Mueller investigation. That’s not even like fake news. These are people waking up behind bars.

 

How many? Three?

I count Manafort and Cohen. And Stone. Manafort and Cohen’s offenses had nothing to do with Russia. Stone’s Russian “connection” was removed by two orders.

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1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Say what you will, but not let's pretend like one side is any better than the other. I hope your boy does a fine job. I'm going to  do my best to take the high road. 


I never pretend one side is better than the other. 
 

I've been a registered Independent all my (voting) life.  
 

The Republicans refused to select a SC nomination from Obama and turned face this year.  
 

Don is a fraud and always has been. 

 

Don is so bad he’s driven people from the party. 
 

21 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

I’m quite enjoying pointing out your blatant hypocrisy.  It’s nice seeing your racism come right out into the open. 


 

lol. Nice. Jeebus 

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11 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

How many? Three?

I count Manafort and Cohen. And Stone. Manafort and Cohen’s offenses had nothing to do with Russia. Stone’s Russian “connection” was removed by two orders.


Not counting the Russian troll farm or people outside a direct established association with Trump/Republicans , I count Manafort, Stone, Cohen, Gates, Papadapolous, Van Der Zwaan, Patten, Kian, Alptekin.

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9 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:


Now that’s an overstatement if I ever heard one - he found plenty of time to golf, ego surf on Fox News, Tweet out whatever deranged thought came into his pumpkin head, and campaign instead of govern.  

My point is Coach and with all due respect. There's been plenty of animosity to go around from both sides. So much so its become next to impossible to bridge the gap on anything. My biggest concern right now is the crisis at hand and it requires unity.

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7 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:


I never pretend one side is better than the other. 
 

I've been a registered Independent all my (voting) life.  
 

The Republicans refused to select a SC nomination from Obama and turned face this year.  
 

Don is a fraud and always has been. 

 

Don is so bad he’s driven people from the party. 
 


 

lol. Nice. Jeebus 

Yes I understand. You hate Donald Trump.  You've made that very clear for a while now. Go Biden a rising tide lifts all ships.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Greybeard said:

       Four Million votes.  Subtract California and it is a dead heat.  You can read into that whatever.

Yes, subtract the biggest state in our union. Brilliant 

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3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

PA will by all accounts end up at the US Supreme Court. In October the PA Supreme Court ruled that ballots received after 8 PM on Nov. 3rd should be counted citing extraordinary circumstances caused by the pandemic.  This contrary to PA election law which states ballots received after that deadline are invalid.  Some might call this judicial activism.  The US court will likely rule those ballots invalid and they've already instructed PA election officials to segregate those ballots.  

 

Ballots received after November 3 have not been counted yet. Biden's lead in Pennsylvania doesn't include them. In fact I would wager the Pennsylvania GOP will not appeal that decision to the Supreme Court because they need to hold out hope those ballots somehow swing the state to Trump.

3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

In PA and MI postal workers have reported they were directed by supervisors to sort-out ballots received late from other mail and manually pre-date them with a postal stamp prior to Nov. 3rd.  You can call it some conspiracy or whatever you'd like but workers have agreed to testify to this under oath if required.

 

Source?

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57 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:


Not counting the Russian troll farm or people outside a direct established association with Trump/Republicans , I count Manafort, Stone, Cohen, Gates, Papadapolous, Van Der Zwaan, Patten, Kian, Alptekin.

 

None of the charges pertained to collusion between trump and Russians to affect the election, including  Russian troll farm and that case was dropped. 

 

You are taking the results of Mueller and relating them to a different conclusion. 

 

Posted
14 hours ago, StHustle said:

 

Trump is a chess player. Its now clear his strategy was to tell his base to vote on election day and avoid mail in ballots, so that on the actual election day, he would run up a lead in key states, all so he could rush and claim victory before the mail in votes get counted, and make public claims that the election was would be attempted to be stolen by democrats. The same claim he already let be known he would make months ago. He knew the mail in votes would diminish the election day leads he would obviously have. How did he know? Because of the pre election polls clearly showed Biden was the favorite. He did the exact same thing in 2016 when the pre election polls predicted he would lose, he came out saying he would be cheated by fraud with zero evidence. Then he won,  and all of a sudden the only fraud was with the popular vote since he lost that. When Donald Trump wins its all good, if he loses its fraud. He knows his base are sheeple and will believe whatever he says. He would rather see violence erupt in this country than bow out gracefully. The so called law & order president.

 

How grown adult human beings can't logically see whats going and instead act like Jim Jones followers, is beyond me and quite frankly very very sad.

 

I am disturbed because even some people I know who are leaders, not at all known to be idiots, have fallen so much that they literally agree with and defend Trumps every word and action. Defending a man who the vast majority of Americans would not want their children emulating, yet still has 47% of America's support.

 

I beg of you Truml supporters to snap out of it. Examine yourself to find the root of why you would want this type of person to be the leader of this great country. At least 4 million Americans want Biden to be the president over Trump. I know the popular vote doesn't pick the president but can you Trump supporters at least aknowlege and admit that MORE AMERICANS DONT WANT TRUMP THEN THOSE WHO DO? Or did democrats manufacture millions of fake votes? Let's be real guys.

 

Be your own person. Open your eyes and see reality before you. Don't be a minion that goes with whatever another man says without using your own brain and seeing things for what they really are. Trump supporters, like us all, knew that if Trump would pull this crap. He told us ahead of time. Its a damn shame the wool so many allow to be pulled over their eyes. Again...its disturbing and its very very sad.

 

Its ok to agree with a candidate's policies, but also be able to stand up, as a sensible grown American, with some sort of damn integrity, and say hey, this man is not fit to be leader of this country. He has some good ideas but is a liar who can't accept defeat of any kind. He is willing to put the future of this country on the line just so he can claim victory. 

 

Bottom line is...he claims fraud but the only real fraud here is him. All you Trump supporters should wake up, don't be like that dude, and be able to admit you were wrong. Did I vote for Biden as much as I voted against Trump? No. I can be clear headed and admit things. Try it...it feels great. But that's the position I was forced into. I actually value THE TRUTH...and things like INTEGRITY still matter to me. That is more important than the economy or anything else! Once I see you currently have little integrity and are a liar...anything else you are talking about means much of nothing to me. I wish so many Americans weren't willing to disregard those oh so important characteristics. As a black man in America, seeing 47% of America supported this crap tells me things are even worse than what I thought. These are very sad sad days in America. You folks who claim you live this country need to wake tf up!

Boy are you and your loser left wing friends gonna all kinds of butt hurt when Trump retains the White House. 

 

Will you accept defeat graciously as you want others to do! or you going to have another 4 year tantrum?

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Posted
1 minute ago, Big Gun said:

Boy are you and your loser left wing friends gonna all kinds of butt hurt when Trump retains the White House. 

 

Will you accept defeat graciously as you want others to do! or you going to have another 4 year tantrum?

 

 

Oh. 

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