Trump supporters...please show class. Don't be sore losers...

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

27 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

When you trot out to the barn, plunk a shovelful of horse poop into a box, and then use pretty wrapping paper to cover the box, all you have is a pretty box that still stinks like horse poop.   Your posts are much like that.   You pretend to be a fair-minded, rational conservative but you're as delusional, irrational a Trump cultist as any of the attendees of Covid Donnie's various Grand Superspreader Tour events.

 

I always feel  badly for people like you.  I’m not sure if it was the failing of the people who cared for you, your role models or that you got off track somewhere along the way. 
 

If my thoughts offend you to the point that you come up with forced analogies involving horse droppings, gift boxes and wrapping paper, you should stay off the sauce and stay in the echo chamber. 
 

Bitterness keeps you from flying, lad. When you’re ready to have dialogue stop back by. 

[jrober38]

21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

While your input is duly noted, your thoughts are your own and not indicative of the processes we have in place to address these issues. 
 

If they are “wrecked in court”, you and yours shall prevail.  I’m still struggling to

understand why you and many of yours are speaking out en masse in favor of suppressing the right to due process.  
 

As for DJT spending his money, and by extension average, hard working Americans choosing to contribute to the cause to make the world a better place, that’s politics man!  Why would you want that suppressed or mocked?  
 

Anyway you cut it, this debate is good for America.   Lets see how it goes.  

 

Due process is great if you have proof, which is something they have none of so far. 

 

Also, no one on your side seemed to care about due process for Trump's impeachment. 

 

They haven't won a single lawsuit yet, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PROOF.

 

Also, Trump sent out fund raising emails and texts yesterday to pay for legal bills. The fine print read that up to 60% of those contributions would go to Trump to pay him back for the money he spent on his campaign. He's just grifting his followers into paying him back for the money he spent on his campaign, so he can walk away whole and they can put up their hard earned dollars to try to save the Titanic from sinking. 

 

And not allowing Biden, the presumed overwhelming winner in the electoral college, to begin the transition process in the middle of a pandemic is NOT good for America. It's probably the opposite, where Biden inherits a raging pandemic with minimal time to put his people in place. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

20 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Because our legal system is not supposed to deal with claims with no evidence.  If you were to take the "well, we think something is wrong so we're going to court" thought process being used by trump and apply that to anyone who feels butt hurt about something the legal system as we know it would cease to exist.  What Trump and his supporters are doing right now is the equivalent of a frivolous lawsuit.

There is a reason justice is blind, at least philosophically.  Tens of millions of citizens reject your assertion.  Our response?  No, we don’t burn down cities.  No, we don’t establish CHOP/Free-to-murder zones.  No, we don’t gather in massive groups and harass and  intimidate law abiding citizens as they sit at a local establishment that provides goods, services, employment and tax revenue to our local communities.  
 

We support the adjudication of the matter through legal means.  Not 2 minutes ago I responded to @SoTier and his silly yet hateful, derogatory comments.  My crime?  Civility. Reason. Patience. And a desire to see it through.  Oh, and I voted for Donald Trump and historic low unemployment, a sensible approach to taxation, energy independence and the like. 
 

I’ve indicated multiple times that if you and yours prevail, the answer will be revealed. 
 

 

[shoshin]

1 hour ago, jrober38 said:

 

Pretty much every one of the examples of "voting irregularities" has been debunked.

 

 

 

But the post office guy!

[jrober38]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

There is a reason justice is blind, at least philosophically.  Tens of millions of citizens reject your assertion.  Our response?  No, we don’t burn down cities.  No, we don’t establish CHOP/Free-to-murder zones.  No, we don’t gather in massive groups and harass and  intimidate law abiding citizens as they sit at a local establishment that provides goods, services, employment and tax revenue to our local communities.  
 

We support the adjudication of the matter through legal means.  Not 2 minutes ago I responded to @SoTier and his silly yet hateful, derogatory comments.  My crime?  Civility. Reason. Patience. And a desire to see it through.  Oh, and I voted for Donald Trump and historic low unemployment, a sensible approach to taxation, energy independence and the like. 
 

I’ve indicated multiple times that if you and yours prevail, the answer will be revealed. 
 

 

 

You're not acting reasonable. 

 

You're holding out hope of a smoking gun to expose wide spread election fraud among tens of thousands of ballots, and up until now there is no evidence whatsoever that any fraud occurred. 

 

That's not a reasonable position. 

[shoshin]

11 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

You're not acting reasonable. 

 

You're holding out hope of a smoking gun to expose wide spread election fraud among tens of thousands of ballots, and up until now there is no evidence whatsoever that any fraud occurred. 

 

That's not a reasonable position. 

 

The post office guy!!!

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

15 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Due process is great if you have proof, which is something they have none of so far. 

 

Also, no one on your side seemed to care about due process for Trump's impeachment. 

 

They haven't won a single lawsuit yet, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PROOF.

 

Also, Trump sent out fund raising emails and texts yesterday to pay for legal bills. The fine print read that up to 60% of those contributions would go to Trump to pay him back for the money he spent on his campaign. He's just grifting his followers into paying him back for the money he spent on his campaign, so he can walk away whole and they can put up their hard earned dollars to try to save the Titanic from sinking. 

 

And not allowing Biden, the presumed overwhelming winner in the electoral college, to begin the transition process in the middle of a pandemic is NOT good for America. It's probably the opposite, where Biden inherits a raging pandemic with minimal time to put his people in place. 

You're conflating topics, getting turned around and it's hard to follow your logic.

 

Are you suggesting DJT should not pursue legal remedy because he was impeached? Putting aside the obvious problems with a partisan impeachment that went nowher, what's the point here?

 

As for DJT sending our fundraising email, please provide a link.  It's not that I don't believe you, I just would like to make another donation.  As an aside, part of the liberal challenge is worrying too much about how other people spend their money. Or, perhaps more accurately, how much of the money earned they should be able to keep.  I'm good with money, it's a tool like any other and when respected, can do wonders.

 

I reject your assertion that the challenge is not good for America (nice hedge on 'presumed' btw), and charge you with providing evidence to support your claim.  As for the pandemic, whatever.  That ship has sailed, it paid dividends for your people at the voting booth, but as if on cue--holy crap, a vaccine!  Thank God for Donald J Trump. 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

As for the pandemic, whatever.  That ship has sailed, it paid dividends for your people at the voting booth, but as if on cue--holy crap, a vaccine!  Thank God for Donald J Trump. 

 

[shoshin]

"60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000, then to DJTP's (Donald J. Trump for President's) Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800/$5,000.40% of each contribution to the RNC's Operating account, up to a maximum of $35,500/$15,000. Any additional funds will go to the RNC for deposit in the RNC's Legal Proceedings account or Headquarters account, up to a maximum of $213,000/$90,000."

[jrober38]

4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You're conflating topics, getting turned around and it's hard to follow your logic.

 

Are you suggesting DJT should not pursue legal remedy because he was impeached? Putting aside the obvious problems with a partisan impeachment that went nowher, what's the point here?

 

As for DJT sending our fundraising email, please provide a link.  It's not that I don't believe you, I just would like to make another donation.  As an aside, part of the liberal challenge is worrying too much about how other people spend their money. Or, perhaps more accurately, how much of the money earned they should be able to keep.  I'm good with money, it's a tool like any other and when respected, can do wonders.

 

I reject your assertion that the challenge is not good for America (nice hedge on 'presumed' btw), and charge you with providing evidence to support your claim.  As for the pandemic, whatever.  That ship has sailed, it paid dividends for your people at the voting booth, but as if on cue--holy crap, a vaccine!  Thank God for Donald J Trump. 

 

It's right on his website. 

 

Feel free to donate as much as you want. 60% of your money just goes into Trump's pocket in the name of his "Save America" fund which is just repaying the money he spent on his campaign.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

15 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

You're not acting reasonable. 

 

You're holding out hope of a smoking gun to expose wide spread election fraud among tens of thousands of ballots, and up until now there is no evidence whatsoever that any fraud occurred. 

 

That's not a reasonable position. 

I'm doing nothing of the sort silly wabbit.  

 

Check with your boy @transplantbillsfan as to my thoughts about who(m) might prevail in the election pre-election, and I'm happy to share my thoughts on where I think this goes. 

 

1. Substantial evidence of wrongdoing;

2. Procedural violations on accepted ballots (for instance, accepting ballots after the date legislatively established);

3. Individual acts of wrongdoing that go unaddressed;

 

Ultimately, the judicial branch rejects the arguments of the Trump admin and Joe Biden becomes the president.  My calculus at the SC level is the evidence is weighted, and the choice comes down between additional litigation and riots that surely follow if/when DJT prevails v a bunch of angry conservative voters who grumble and complain but have bills to pay.  In addition--SC justices have lives and families.  I have little doubt that ACB loves and cherishes her husband and children, and little doubt after watching the Kavanaugh hearing there are enough crackpots in the world to want to do her harm.

 

Tell you what though--if it's a slam dunk and Trump was wrong across the board, I'll be happy to acknowledge it.  

5 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

You're boring me.  

 

In NYS alone, the epicenter of the disaster where the elderly were set up to die, the restrictions are already lifting.  Our illustrious governor changed the rules to allow for the snowbirds (typically wealthy NYS residents) and tapped out on even bothering to check commuters from adjoining, high risk states.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

8 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

It's right on his website. 

 

Feel free to donate as much as you want. 60% of your money just goes into Trump's pocket in the name of his "Save America" fund which is just repaying the money he spent on his campaign.

Money well-spent, though now you're going to make me duckduckgo his website.  The link would have helped an old fellow out.  Btw--you already told me about the .60%. We'll consider that a Biden moment. 

 

[jrober38]

6 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Money well-spent, though now you're going to make me duckduckgo his website.  The link would have helped an old fellow out.  Btw--you already told me about the .60%. We'll consider that a Biden moment. 

 

 

Nothing beats being proud of being scammed by a con artist. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

4 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Nothing beats being proud of being scammed by a con artist. 

Interesting, another tolerant liberal weighs in with a silly take. 
 

I shall donate $38 in your screen name, but as that is not enough, I’ll throw in $38 for So Tier and another $38 for good measure. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[shoshin]

32 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Interesting, another tolerant liberal weighs in with a silly take. 
 

I shall donate $38 in your screen name, but as that is not enough, I’ll throw in $38 for So Tier and another $38 for good measure. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Helping pay off the losing campaign's debt--Noble of you but I'd think your charitable donations could be better spent. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, shoshin said:

 

Helping pay off the losing campaign's debt--Noble of you but I'd think your charitable donations could be better spent. 

Thank you for the acknowledgment, and I want to validate you, your feelings and your observation. I strike a different path, I would classify this as a political cause much more so than a charitable donation.   I budget my money and make charitable donations to organizations that touch my heart and do what I consider to be The Lord's work.  

 

I'm fortunate enough to be able to navigate what I see as the chasm between the two. 

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Thank you for the acknowledgment, and I want to validate you, your feelings and your observation. I strike a different path, I would classify this as a political cause much more so than a charitable donation.   I budget my money and make charitable donations to organizations that touch my heart and do what I consider to be The Lord's work.  

 

I'm fortunate enough to be able to navigate what I see as the chasm between the two. 

 

Why are you here?  @Deranged Rhino and @Foxx created a hyper controlled environment for you snowflakes - you think you're going to win here?

 

Did DR come out of hiding yet? LMAO

 

 

[Tenhigh]

On 11/7/2020 at 7:51 PM, oldmanfan said:

What neither far right or far left people want to understand is that political political extremists will never get what they want.  They don’t have the numbers to run the show.

No, but they have the numbers to push candidates to the fringes of their parties though the primary process.  We need a better way, imo.  

[dickleyjones]

3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

As for the pandemic, whatever.  That ship has sailed, it paid dividends for your people at the voting booth, but as if on cue--holy crap, a vaccine!  Thank God for Donald J Trump. 

the pandemic definitely wasn't Trump's fault. neither was the rather poor response, most of the world was not ready. and the Ds hammered it as if it was his fault which is par for the course when you are in charge. i think it was wrong to do so, morally, but strategically you really can't blame them.

 

however, the vaccine is not Trump's either. or God's for that matter. we have awesome science humans for such things.

[TBBills]

Are the democrats gonna have to bailout the republicans after Trump fleeces them for all their money?