YoloinOhio Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: One of my least favorite stats in the NFL. It's akin to keeping a stat saying a Quarterback had the highest percentage of passes that were almost caught. Its too subjective. What constitutes a "pressure" how close do you have to be to the QB? And who decides that? Pass rush win rate how often the player is beating his block within 2.5 seconds They define pressure as any defender that affects the QB in the pocket. Whether that be forcing him to step up/scramble, hitting him on a pass play, or sacking him.
ngbills Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 The benefit of playing the Jets twice early: 9 Sacks in two games Jets. That is 4.5 per game. 10 Sacks vs everyone else. That is 1.66 per game. 1
Turk71 Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 This is just my opinion but getting sacks is a combination of pressure, coverage and collapsing the pocket so the QB can't just step up to avoid the outside pressure. The Bills have gotten good pressure on the outside, Hughes especially, but with the lack of pressure up the middle and the soft off coverage the QB is able to get rid of the ball or step up to avoid the sack.
LABILLBACKER Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 Is this another worthless PFF analytic? We pressured the qb for an entire 7 seconds until he found an open receiver. Yay!!
GunnerBill Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 4 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Just seen on sportscenter that the Bills have the 4th highest pressure rate in the NFL surprising . Not if you have watched the games.
johnnywo Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 Its a little later in the season than the turn around from last season...but I'm hoping for the same result.
Putin Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Just seen on sportscenter that the Bills have the 4th highest pressure rate in the NFL surprising . There were so many plays that we were close in getting a sack but miss tackle in ( general) hurt this defense from finishing the plays and getting of the field Edited November 6, 2020 by Putin 1
ProcessTruster Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 57 minutes ago, johnnywo said: Its a little later in the season than the turn around from last season...but I'm hoping for the same result. really don't see this team having its crap together until after the bye and guys (Brown, Milano, Edmunds, Morse, etc etc etc) can get healthy. I can see 6-4 (7-3 best case) heading into the bye (everyone losing their sh-t ) and then 5-1 to finish 11-5.
billsfan89 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 Bills are a mid level in sacks, hopefully that goes up and the pressure rate is indicative of higher performance to come.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 Obviously not all pressures mean the same thing. I'm not going to argue with their methods but I just don't care about this stat. Whatever pressure they are bringing it is not resulting in turnovers. That is all that matters. Modern defense is bend but don't break, hope for a miscue by the offense that puts them in long down and distance, and getting turnovers.
Real McClappy Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 High in pressure but with horrendous 2nd tier or LB play we get toasted.
Hebert19 Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Real McNasty said: High in pressure but with horrendous 2nd tier or LB play we get toasted. This. Middle of field wide open. And when these guys blitz....well its like they do it with their eyes closed. Just run right the ***** into the blocker. 1
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) Yes my doctor concurs, this defense is top 4 to increase your pressure rate. Edited November 7, 2020 by IronMaidenBills
ganesh Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/7/2020 at 12:13 AM, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Yeah we pressure a lot but never get to the QB in time... especially on 3rd downs
Thurman#1 Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) On 11/7/2020 at 4:15 AM, dave mcbride said: 25 percent of the Bills games have involved the Jets, which to date is the highest percentage for any team (because the Bills have played them twice). Factor that in. Again, Jets. If you want to focus on that, you also have to point out that we also played the Chiefs and Titans, two of the absolute best in the league. Overall, our schedule has been tougher than average. The defense hasn't been especially good this year. If what we're doing is working in one area, that's great, let's look at that, without forgetting the areas where things aren't going so well. On 11/7/2020 at 10:55 AM, Ethan in Portland said: Obviously not all pressures mean the same thing. I'm not going to argue with their methods but I just don't care about this stat. Whatever pressure they are bringing it is not resulting in turnovers. That is all that matters. Modern defense is bend but don't break, hope for a miscue by the offense that puts them in long down and distance, and getting turnovers. That's just not true, turnovers aren't all that matter. Rushed throws that fall incomplete matter plenty too. Open receivers the QB didn't have time to see or hit matter. Pressures are excellent, they lower lower the effectiveness of the QB and the whole passing game. Sacks are better, they lower effectiveness even more, but pressures are good. Edited November 8, 2020 by Thurman#1 1
GunnerBill Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: That's just not true, turnovers aren't all that matter. Rushed throws that fall incomplete matter plenty too. Open receivers the QB didn't have time to see or hit matter. Pressures are excellent, they lower lower the effectiveness of the QB and the whole passing game. Sacks are better, they lower effectiveness even more, but pressures are good. Indeed. It amazes me that McDermott has been here four years. People have watched four years of this scheme but it is like they don't see what is actually happening. Collapsing pockets and disrupting timing is an objective of this defense. It isn't just a means of trying to achieve sacks, it is an objective in itself. 1
r00tabaga Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 Offensive holding is wayyyy down. We are actually getting pressure consistently, especially as of late. More so than others in the league. I would prefer sacks but QB hurries lead to bad throws, INTs, etc so keep it up boys!
Buffalo Boy Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) On 11/6/2020 at 1:54 PM, Captain_Quint said: And we have very few defensive turnovers, too. This is the key. Is their an advanced stat out there for missed interceptions? We’ve got to be near the top in that category! Edited November 8, 2020 by Buffalo Boy 1
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted November 8, 2020 Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 3:38 PM, thurst44 said: We're actually top 10 in sacks as well. Yeah but if you remove the games where we got lots of sacks then this team would be like bottom 10 in sacks. What about that
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