JerseyBills Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 12:36 AM, Bob in STL said: I love to see stats prove these downer fans wrong. Every game is hard. Every win is important. There are a handful of plays every game that separate winning from losing. Yesterday our guy, Zimmer, made the last big play of the game. We win. How many times did we lose to the the Pats* because they made more big plays in close games? The complaints about this team and McDermott are irrational. Especially when you consider how long we waited for a winning team. McDermott says you have to earn the right to win. He is correct. When you do you should not apologize for it. Expand Am I the only one who noticed Oliver being the last guy running off the field on the last drive? I think Zimmer was a last second decision by McD and what a decision it was. McDermott is an excellent coach. Excellent motivator. Excellent at building and maintaining a winning culture. We struck gold with him. It's crazy how much love WFAN and ESPN NYC radio show the Bills, they'd kill for a team , coach and GM like this and I come on here and I see alot of negativity 1
Bob in STL Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 2:52 AM, JerseyBills said: Am I the only one who noticed Oliver being the last guy running off the field on the last drive? I think Zimmer was a last second decision by McD and what a decision it was. McDermott is an excellent coach. Excellent motivator. Excellent at building and maintaining a winning culture. We struck gold with him. It's crazy how much love WFAN and ESPN NYC radio show the Bills, they'd kill for a team , coach and GM like this and I come on here and I see alot of negativity Expand Yes indeed. McDermott is very well respected around the league. I’m so glad we have him and Beane. I would run the team using the Pittsburgh model and keep them a long time because they will win. Just a matter of time on that. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 1:17 AM, Mango said: McD is 32-27 as HC. So we are 8-26 if we are not leading at the half? I am about as surprised at how good we are leading at the half as I am at how bad we are at winning a game without the lead at half time. Expand Tyrod Taylor Nate Peterman (two mistakes long gone) Then he had a raw rookie (who very few has any faith in) who had Zay Jones and Bob Foster as his #1 and #2 WR’s. On 11/3/2020 at 2:50 AM, Mango said: Just checked quick on my phone, it looks like of our 11 GWD we’ve been leading at the half in 7 or 8 of them. For whatever reason the 3Q is the worst for us. Expand With 8, count them 8 4th QRT comebacks
Mango Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 3:06 AM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Tyrod Taylor Nate Peterman (two mistakes long gone) Then he had a raw rookie (who very few has any faith in) who had Zay Jones and Bob Foster as his #1 and #2 WR’s. Expand Most of Joshs GWD were games where we already had the lead. That includes all 3 this year. Both loses we were losing at the half. Using TT, NP, and a receiving Corp from 2 years ago isn’t playing out that way at the moment.
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 2:48 AM, jimmy10 said: If you take away all the good things that happened, then only bad things happened. That’s science. Expand For what it's worth.... If the Dolphins and Raiders both lose this week the Bills would only have 1 win against a team with a winning record.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 3:10 AM, Mango said: Most of Joshs GWD were games where we already had the lead. That includes all 3 this year. Both loses we were losing at the half. Using TT, NP, and a receiving Corp from 2 years ago isn’t playing out that way at the moment. Expand By definition GWD a game-winning drive is the offensive scoring drive in the fourth quarter or overtime that puts the winningteam ahead for the last time. Meaning the score had to be tied or close enough to put the game away. Not having a true # 1 and 2 WR does matter. Tyrod didn’t throw with anticipation. He waited for the safe pass to happen or he ran to be “safe”.
HappyDays Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 3:19 AM, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: For what it's worth.... If the Dolphins and Raiders both lose this week the Bills would only have 1 win against a team with a winning record. Expand You realize that would be because we beat them, right? 1 1
Mango Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 3:19 AM, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: By definition GWD a game-winning drive is the offensive scoring drive in the fourth quarter or overtime that puts the winningteam ahead for the last time. Meaning the score had to be tied or close enough to put the game away. Not having a true # 1 and 2 WR does matter. Tyrod didn’t throw with anticipation. He waited for the safe pass to happen or he ran to be “safe”. Expand Right, in order to have a game winning drive, you have to be not winning at some point. I think we all get that. To the point of the stat we are talking about, the Bills being 23-1 when leading at half time, and inversely being 8-26 when tied or worse at the half. That stat line actually carries through regardless of the point you are making about Peterman, Tyrod, WR corp. I am not saying those things don't matter to the success of the team, but we have shuffled that situation around a ton and seeing the same results. 7 or 8 of JA's 11 GWD come after leading at the half. We have not won a single game after being down at half time in 2020. This is probably the best the offense has been in McD's tenure and it is the best that Josh has played so far over 8 games. Our lack of being able to put together a 3rd quarter is biting us in the ass. 1
Mango Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 3:19 AM, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: For what it's worth.... If the Dolphins and Raiders both lose this week the Bills would only have 1 win against a team with a winning record. Expand Oh jeez, and have a bye, then SEA and TB. And then what if the Dolphins and Raiders go 1-1-1 over that stretch, and everybody we play is stuck at .500. We could have the worst NFL super power ever. The midas touch, except everything the Bills touch turns into a team coached by Jeff Fisher. Unrelated, Lindy Ruff would sometimes drive me bonkers (miss him now). The guy could take any 5 goal scorer in the league and turn him into a 20 goal scorer. He could also take a 40 goal scorer and turn him into a 20 goal scorer. It was a gift really.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 11:36 PM, Pbomb said: But were they signature wins Expand I have a fountain pen. Tell me where I sign. Then they'll be signature wins. Wait, that's not how it works?
MJS Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 1:17 AM, Mango said: McD is 32-27 as HC. So we are 8-26 if we are not leading at the half? I am about as surprised at how good we are leading at the half as I am at how bad we are at winning a game without the lead at half time. Expand There are probably some tied games at the half too.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) On 11/3/2020 at 3:38 AM, Mango said: Right, in order to have a game winning drive, you have to be not winning at some point. I think we all get that. To the point of the stat we are talking about, the Bills being 23-1 when leading at half time, and inversely being 8-26 when tied or worse at the half. That stat line actually carries through regardless of the point you are making about Peterman, Tyrod, WR corp. I am not saying those things don't matter to the success of the team, but we have shuffled that situation around a ton and seeing the same results. 7 or 8 of JA's 11 GWD come after leading at the half. We have not won a single game after being down at half time in 2020. This is probably the best the offense has been in McD's tenure and it is the best that Josh has played so far over 8 games. Our lack of being able to put together a 3rd quarter is biting us in the ass. Expand What you said is true. Talent does matter. Look at what adding Diggs alone did for the Bills. As some mentioned - Hero Ball by Josh. Forcing things when training. He's improved in that regard in the last 2 seasons. One point I didn't make prior. --- How many other coaches are better than 8-26 when tied or behind at the half? 2017 to 2019 The Ravens 0 - 14 The Texans 4 - 18 Do we need to see better? Sure. but still. The Bills are not THE worst It's not like we are the Falcons. Edited November 3, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce 1
Ramza86 Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Rams and Raiders and Fins. Wow what an accomplishment. But we got mopped by the Titans and Chiefs. Does that say contender? Nope. Beat the Seahawks, Beat the Cardinals, then we can have a conversation. Until then this is a team that can MAYBE sneak one win in the playoffs. Edited November 3, 2020 by Ramza86
BuffaloBill Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 11:29 PM, CSBill said: Nice find. Yolo must have taken a bathroom break. Expand @YoloinOhio you don’t stay on your device while riding the throne? Slacker....
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