Do The Reich Thing Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Hope Beane is watching tonight's game. I'd give a third for Tomlinson. No way give a 3rd. That’s a premium pick id say a 2022 4th Edited November 3, 2020 by Do The Reich Thing
qwksilver Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: No way give a 3rd. That’s a premium pick id say a 2022 4th That 4th is valued as a 2021 5th not going to be enough.
jkeerie Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 Wasn't he a 2nd rounder? I don't think NY considers a 5th and we have no 4th.
Dkollidas Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 I think watching how much bringing back Feliciano (even with losing Morse) improved the run, should hopefully show how much doing the same on the defensive interior would help the defense as a whole. Feliciano was a huge part of the running game. Adding a true 1-tech (none of Phillips, Oliver, Butler, Jefferson or Zimmer are truly a 1-tech) like Tomlinson would be a big piece to helping improve the entire defense. if you look at how we’ve been playing, the linebackers look like they tend to be stacking over the nose, and even the safeties seem to be doing so quite often. Probably because they know there’s so much push against that area of our defense. Clogging that hole consistently allows the second and third level guys to spread out more snd make more plays. 1
Do The Reich Thing Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, qwksilver said: That 4th is valued as a 2021 5th not going to be enough. He’s a very good player, but man that’s tough to let go of a 3rd. You’re mortgaging a lot if you don’t have a 3rd or 4th next year.
Codyny13 Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Wasn't he a 2nd rounder? I don't think NY considers a 5th and we have no 4th. He was a 2nd rounder but he’s on an expiring contract. They don’t have much leverage here.
BBills88 Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 Please! go get Tomlinson from the Giants. He can bring that nasty to to the DLine
billsfan89 Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Do The Reich Thing said: He’s a very good player, but man that’s tough to let go of a 3rd. You’re mortgaging a lot if you don’t have a 3rd or 4th next year. The draft next year isn't a typical draft. And honestly I would trade a third for Tomlinson. For one I think while it is unlikely the Bills could resign him it is possible that if he fits in well that the front office (depending on what the cap is) could want to resign him and platoon him with Star. Tomlinson wouldn't fix all the issues with this defense. The pass rush is mid-level and lacks that edge setter, there is a lack of a number two corner and possibly the LB play is suspect. But Tomlinson would greatly improve the rush defense and help out the LB's. 2 1
Codyny13 Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, BBills88 said: Please! go get Tomlinson from the Giants. He can bring that nasty to to the DLine He’s been impressive tn
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 41 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: I don’t get this TE trade talk. Is our defensive strategy going to be keeping them off the field as much as possible? A good TE is a cover 2 beater 1
Weatherman Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) I think the Bills roll with what they got. Not much space this year and will most likely need all their draft picks to compensate for the larger dead cap thats looming for next year from some of the crappy FA pickups. Edited November 3, 2020 by Weatherman 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said: $12 million against the cap next year. Way too rich for me. If we want some quality, we 're gonna have to pay for it.
qwksilver Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: He’s a very good player, but man that’s tough to let go of a 3rd. You’re mortgaging a lot if you don’t have a 3rd or 4th next year. I get it but if you NEED help you have to take the offer. Plus how much will a 3rd or 4th rounder help this team in 2021? If necessary there are ways to get those rounds back. This one get takes pressure off both sides of the ball. Nothing they can do now will be as effective! Edited November 3, 2020 by qwksilver
BrooklynBills Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 Engram is young and can be re-signed. Tomlinson too. Draft picks aren't too much to give up for guys who could be long term solutions. 2
Do The Reich Thing Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, qwksilver said: I get it but if you NEED help you have to take the offer. Plus how much will a 3rd or 4th rounder help this team in 2021? If necessary there are ways to get those rounds back. This one get takes pressure off both sides of the ball. Nothing they can do now will be as effective! I agree it’s just tough to do it. I would be happy if they made a move for him, but I don’t see Beane giving up a 3rd
qwksilver Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: I agree it’s just tough to do it. I would be happy if they made a move for him, but I don’t see Beane giving up a 3rd I'm not sure I see him either because he values those picks to move around but more importantly it would be him acknowledging he made some mistakes this offseason. Almost no one likes to admit they aren't perfect. Star opting out really hurt us. Edited November 3, 2020 by qwksilver 1
CSBill Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Okay, today's the big day! DID BEANE MAKE A TRADE YET ???? One thing this crazy year has brought, there seems to be far more in-season player movement (trades) than I remember from other seasons. Or am I just losing my memory? Edited November 3, 2020 by CSBill
machine gun kelly Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 We are not trading for Tomlinson as they would want a 2nd as he was taken in the 2nd, his contract expires at the end of this year, and will cost quite a bit in a cap Covid year. You guys know who I want in Settle. Only $800 k through next year, was taken in the 6th round, and would be cheap in a draft pick. Washington is going nowhere and they have a ton of depth on their defensive line. Besides, Rivera and McD are friends. 1
TonyBeets Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 I wonder how interested we'd be in John Ross? John Brown has been unavailable/injured and he is the only player we have that can stretch the field. Even when Brown is healthy, wouldn't Ross be a nice player to have?? 1
YoloinOhio Posted November 3, 2020 Posted November 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, TonyBeets said: I wonder how interested we'd be in John Ross? John Brown has been unavailable/injured and he is the only player we have that can stretch the field. Even when Brown is healthy, wouldn't Ross be a nice player to have?? I think if he is cut, he would be a good add to the PS in case Brown is hurt again. Would not give up a pick for him. 1
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