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Why do other teams still complete deep passes when teams "take it away" but the Bills don't?


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32 minutes ago, BilLions said:

+1... O-line has not been 100% and injuries in general. Watch out if/when team gets healthy again.

Every team is injured right now

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2 hours ago, Penfield45 said:

Well when other teams coaching staffs come up with a game plan and it doesn’t work they know how to switch it and change things up to make it work 

 

our coaching staff doesn’t know how to do this. It’s why we get out coached in the 2nd half of games. 

6-2 "fan".

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I mean lets take the Seahawks for example. They are not great at running the ball. Everyone knows Wilson is going bombs away but yet he still completes 2 or 3 every game even tho teams are trying to take it away.

 

They have 2 very good WRs but what else do they really have? 

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Because allen has not been good the last four weeks, it's just hard for people to admit. 

 

He was unbelievable before that, so hopefully he can get back on track. Seahawks provide a good opportunity.

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13 hours ago, matter2003 said:

I just don't understand how teams can so easily take away the Bills deep passing game but fail to do it against all the other teams in the league who somehow still find ways to push the ball down the field regardless.

 

Why do the Bills struggle so much when other teams don't seem to?

 

The answer is largely that they don't, you just watch the Bills more than you watch other teams. We've seen defenses take deep passes away from teams a lot. team synthetic against Kansas City so much that Patrick mahomes is 20th and intended air yards per attempt.

 

Russell Wilson's deep ball accuracy this year is a historical outlier, so the answer to the question is that Seattle has a historical outlier that no other team has

 

Thanks to Advanced stats, we can actually analyze air yards now to actually see who's throwing the ball down the field the most. Would you look at the air yards per passing attempt, you largely got it mixed bag. Carson Wentz and Drew lock are the two guys that throw the deepest per attempt, and neither of them are good at it. Beyond that you have cousins Wilson Ryan Stafford Watson and Allen ranks 10th. But that tells you is that Buffalo is still taking their shots, and we saw that on a few drives in the Patriots game. 

 

 

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To this topic, it should be noted that since Week 4 Allen has attempted 46 passes of 20 yards or more and has completed just 18 passes with 4 INT.  It’s among the worst in the league.  So as much as people want to hang this on the coaches, I think you have to appropriately place blame.

 

It seems that Allen and the rest of the offense is struggling now to throw with 6 or 7 players in coverage.   My hope is that Allen learns how to do it.  I think taking the short passes when necessary and the running game will definitely help.  But the reason for the failure to push the ball downfield is largely attributed to Allen IMO

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1 hour ago, matter2003 said:

I mean lets take the Seahawks for example. They are not great at running the ball. Everyone knows Wilson is going bombs away but yet he still completes 2 or 3 every game even tho teams are trying to take it away.

 

They have 2 very good WRs but what else do they really have? 

 

He throws the best deep ball in the NFL.  And he's insanely difficult to sack.  Not to mention - while he had a sick fantasy stat line.  260 on 37 attempts and maybe 1 deep completion.  Soo....  they did take away the deep ball and he beat them passing short, with ball security.

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17 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

He throws the best deep ball in the NFL.  And he's insanely difficult to sack.  Not to mention - while he had a sick fantasy stat line.  260 on 37 attempts and maybe 1 deep completion.  Soo....  they did take away the deep ball and he beat them passing short, with ball security.

 

Wilson may be elusive but he isn't that difficult to sack.  In fact, he led the league in sacks taken last year with 48 and the only full season he has been sacked less than 40 times has been his rookie year when he only got sacked 33 times. The season before last year he was sacked 51 times, so he had 99 sacks in 2 years.  In fact, Wilson is historically one of the most sacked QB's of ALL TIME. In terms of active full time starters, only DeShaun Watson(9.25%) has been sacked more often percentage wise than Russell Wilson's 8.32%.

 

In comparison, Josh Allen's sack percentage is 6.9% in his career, with a low of 4.5% this year.  Wilson's lowest career sack percentage rate is 6.9%, which is this year.  For reference, Rob Johnson's sack rate was 14.3% in his career.

 

So clearly Wilson is not that hard to sack, as it happens more frequently than just about any QB in the NFL.

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Just now, matter2003 said:

 

Wilson may be elusive but he isn't that difficult to sack.  In fact, he led the league in sacks taken last year with 48 and the only full season he has been sacked less than 40 times has been his rookie year when he only got sacked 33 times. The season before last year he was sacked 51 times, so he had 99 sacks in 2 years.  In fact, Wilson is historically one of the most sacked QB's of ALL TIME. In terms of active full time starters, only DeShaun Watson(9.25%) has been sacked more often percentage wise than Russell Wilson's 8.32%.

 

In comparison, Josh Allen's sack percentage is 6.9% in his career, with a low of 4.5% this year.  Wilson's lowest career sack percentage rate is 6.9%, which is this year.

 

So clearly Wilson is not that hard to sack, as it happens more frequently than just about any QB in the NFL.

 

Sure - but he buys time and is able to execute with deep balls when he does.  But... when teams take away the deep stuff, he'll just execute the boring old short stuff as he did against SF.  What'd he complete 1 deep pass in that game?

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