Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 DE Harris ejection last night seemed inappropriate. First off if that is a RB I don't think they even throw a flag. Bridgewater was stumbling and it was a bang bang play. I'm fine with a flag as he did hit the head and neck area but it was not helmet to helmet. I'm shocked he was ejecred. I've seen far worse not turn into elections. I've been an advocate for a targeting rule like college but a call like this really gives me pause that the NFL could get it right. 1 1
BillsShredder83 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 TeddyB was already on the ground. Might not have been intentional, but it took their starter out of the game. This will be a topic in player meetings all week, and will slow down this type of hit. Would you feel the same had it been Josh? And he didnt return? It didnt bother me 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: DE Harris ejection last night seemed inappropriate. First off if that is a RB I don't think they even throw a flag. Bridgewater was stumbling and it was a bang bang play. I'm fine with a flag as he did hit the head and neck area but it was not helmet to helmet. I'm shocked he was ejecred. I've seen far worse not turn into elections. I've been an advocate for a targeting rule like college but a call like this really gives me pause that the NFL could get it right. He did lower his head pretty low to initiate contact.
Shaw66 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said: TeddyB was already on the ground. Might not have been intentional, but it took their starter out of the game. This will be a topic in player meetings all week, and will slow down this type of hit. Would you feel the same had it been Josh? And he didnt return? It didnt bother me Yes. The only way to reduce these hits is with big punishments. It.may not always seem fair, but every guy must play with the idea that he will be in trouble if he hits a someone in the head - especially a qb. 3 3
Captain_Quint Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 I understand a penalty, but not ejection. He laid his shoulder into his neck/shoulder area. No concussion, and Bridgewater came back in later. I thought they jumped to a conclusion there. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Yes. The only way to reduce these hits is with big punishments. It.may not always seem fair, but every guy must play with the idea that he will be in trouble if he hits a someone in the head - especially a qb. This 22 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said: I understand a penalty, but not ejection. He laid his shoulder into his neck/shoulder area. No concussion, and Bridgewater came back in later. I thought they jumped to a conclusion there. I would like to see more of these ejections. As it stands, a defender can knock your QB out of the game for the price of 15 yards and stay in, more often than not. That's not taking these kind of hits seriously. 1 1 2
BuffaloBillies Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 I agree with the ejection as well. I realize often they are already mid-lunge when they see they are about to hit late/inappropriately... and I'll give them that it all happens in a split-second, but you can really help yourself by doing literally anything to show that you're at least trying to ease up, even if slightly after-the-fact. A lot of guys now raise their arms to show they didn't really mean to hit him, or slightly roll it off one way or the other. I wonder if they practice that... they should.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 I actually watched it a few times and it wasn’t entirely clear that bridgewater was going down. He sort of spun out of the trip and stumbled and I thought he was going to regain his balance. So I can sort or see why the defender kept coming hard. He may have been able to let up, but it seems pretty vague. 2
Nineforty Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) I'm more with Ethan on this one. if anything, the guy who stuck his leg out should've been ejected. that started the process where Bridgewater stumbled and twisted. I truly don't think intent to injure was there (or think it was dirty). Watching it again at normal speed just now and I stand by that. https://sports.yahoo.com/video/falcons-charles-harris-ejected-hit-042509779.html Edited October 30, 2020 by Nineforty video link
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Nineforty said: I'm more with Ethan on this one. if anything, the guy who stuck his leg out should've been ejected. that started the process where Bridgewater stumbled and twisted. I truly don't think intent to injure was there (or think it was dirty). Watching it again at normal speed just now and I stand by that. https://sports.yahoo.com/video/falcons-charles-harris-ejected-hit-042509779.html agreed. The other thing to note— it was 3rd down. Looked almost like the defender was coming it to “stuff” him to be short of the line of gain. Yeah, he was still 5 or so yards from the first down, but you wonder if the defender had a sense of that, and was trying to just make sure he didn’t get an inch. the trip was total Bush league. But the hit didn’t seem dirty in this context.
Captain_Quint Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 54 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This I would like to see more of these ejections. As it stands, a defender can knock your QB out of the game for the price of 15 yards and stay in, more often than not. That's not taking these kind of hits seriously. I just dont think the intent to injure was there and he didnt lead with his head. And Bridgewater wasnt on the ground yet. It was borderline, and should have been a penalty, but I feel like the precedent is that it has to be helmet to helmet for an ejection. Again, it was borderline and a dangerous hit, but the ejection really surprised me. 1
Saxum Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: I agree with the ejection as well. I realize often they are already mid-lunge when they see they are about to hit late/inappropriately... and I'll give them that it all happens in a split-second, but you can really help yourself by doing literally anything to show that you're at least trying to ease up, even if slightly after-the-fact. A lot of guys now raise their arms to show they didn't really mean to hit him, or slightly roll it off one way or the other. I wonder if they practice that... they should. T*m Br*dy took acting lessons. Does that surprise you? Oh and it is not only me who spells it that way although I have been spelling it that way for years: https://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/05/07/marvez-on-tm-brdy-column-his-name-has-been-tarnished/ https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/sarah-sara-and-sarah/e/58998672?autoplay=true https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS910US910&q="T*m+Br*dy"&nfpr=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiU1Nrz0dzsAhVrg3IEHfxcD_gQvgUoAXoECDIQKw&biw=1285&bih=742
StHustle Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Hard to argue he wasn't trying to hit the QB on the ground when he dived toward the ground to make the hit on a QB who started going down a full second before. You HAVE to eject players for stuff like that. QBs are too important to this game. If that happened to Josh by Suh would you be against the ejection?? 1
Numark3 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 If you ever hit a QB’s head, when they are already on the ground (meaning you have to lower your own shoulders/helmet to the ground level), and the QB gets hurt, you will be ejected. fair or not.
DCbillsfan Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 It was the right call. A forearm to the head and neck. Easy call.
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: DE Harris ejection last night seemed inappropriate. First off if that is a RB I don't think they even throw a flag. Bridgewater was stumbling and it was a bang bang play. I'm fine with a flag as he did hit the head and neck area but it was not helmet to helmet. I'm shocked he was ejecred. I've seen far worse not turn into elections. I've been an advocate for a targeting rule like college but a call like this really gives me pause that the NFL could get it right. When I saw the replay, I immediately said he’s gone. And he was. It’s an easy call to make. The QB was helpless and going to the ground. A hit wasn’t even necessary. Also if you watch the replay, teddy was tripped and falling at the 42 and Harris came from 7 yards away to hit him. He wasn’t “in mid lunge” 3
Don Otreply Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This I would like to see more of these ejections. As it stands, a defender can knock your QB out of the game for the price of 15 yards and stay in, more often than not. That's not taking these kind of hits seriously. This right here ^^^ As Shaw66 said it’s how you train players to not do that stuff. Imo an ejection from a game should include the players game day check, and team fine of one million dollars to come out of the owners pocket. Piss off the owner and you will see this rectified immediately. Might sound awfully dramatic but we all know it would work. Edited October 30, 2020 by Don Otreply
Chandler#81 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: DE Harris ejection last night seemed inappropriate. First off if that is a RB I don't think they even throw a flag. Bridgewater was stumbling and it was a bang bang play. I'm fine with a flag as he did hit the head and neck area but it was not helmet to helmet. I'm shocked he was ejecred. I've seen far worse not turn into elections. I've been an advocate for a targeting rule like college but a call like this really gives me pause that the NFL could get it right. Agreed. 2016 was a shocker! Hoping to reverse that on Tuesday.. 4
Nineforty Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, StHustle said: Hard to argue he wasn't trying to hit the QB on the ground when he dived toward the ground to make the hit on a QB who started going down a full second before. You HAVE to eject players for stuff like that. QBs are too important to this game. If that happened to Josh by Suh would you be against the ejection?? I'm a braves fan. I'm admittedly the old man yelling at the clouds when it comes to bat-flipping and showing up the pitcher. Our team has one of the most aggressive bat-flippers in the game. When he hits an important home run and my friend texts me saying "LFGOOOOOOO!!!!!", I respond saying, "PULL THAT M%@$$@$r". So to answer your question, yes. It matters not who this happened to. My opinion is based on the video and evidence. Reasonable people can disagree on this.
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