Figster Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: 🤦♂️ I admire the OPs gusto. But.. this game is HUUUGELY monumental. Post-game, should we win, we’ll find ourselves in complete control of the AFCE at just the midway point of the season. You have to go back 32 years to ‘88 for comparison (clinched the Division in week 11). Yes, it’s vs the Brady-less Patriots*, but they’ve OWNED the Division and -for the most part- the LEAGUE throughout this century. Drive the silver dagger into their ghoulish hearts and retrieve the sword from the stone! Slay the dragon! GET IT DONE! The game must have been important enough for OP to start a thread just to tell us its not. Lol I think losing this game could be monumental with the Seahawks and Cardinals coming up on the schedule IMO. Edited October 30, 2020 by Figster 1
Chandler#81 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Figster said: The game must have been important enough for OP to start a thread just to tell us its not. Lol With the Bills schedule I think losing this game could be monumental that could start off a 3 game losing skid IMO. We -or any team for that matter- could go on a 3 game losing streak. Just ask the Patriots. But the schedule doesn’t scare me anymore. NE* is certainly beatable. Seattle epitomizes the 1 man Gang as everyone other than Wilson are mediocre at best and I’m not sold on Kylor as a long term threat -though we’ll see. Pittsburgh seems strong but I think they’re paper thin and already have injuries. Its one game at a time, but I like us achieving something very special this year, Covid notwithstanding..🤞 1 1
Figster Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: We -or any team for that matter- could go on a 3 game losing streak. Just ask the Patriots. But the schedule doesn’t scare me anymore. NE* is certainly beatable. Seattle epitomizes the 1 man Gang as everyone other than Wilson are mediocre at best and I’m not sold on Kylor as a long term threat -though we’ll see. Pittsburgh seems strong but I think they’re paper thin and already have injuries. Its one game at a time, but I like us achieving something very special this year, Covid notwithstanding..🤞 Curious, Buffalo has not performed well vs playoff contenders this season or in McD's tenure here so far for that matter. I'm a big homer, mind If I ask where all this confidence is coming from? I could use some... 1
PromoTheRobot Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Figster said: Curious, Buffalo has not performed well vs playoff contenders this season or in McD's tenure here so far for that matter. I'm a big homer, mind If I ask where all this confidence is coming from? I could use some... What are the Rams? 5-2? Three wins vs teams .500 or better. Edited October 30, 2020 by PromoTheRobot 1 1
Figster Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: What are the Rams? 5-2? Its only 1 team PTR We lost to the other 2...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Figster said: Its only 1 team PTR We lost to the other 2... Well beating the Pats will still mean we haven't beaten anyone. 1
Figster Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well beating the Pats will still mean we haven't beaten anyone. I never suggested otherwise, Just wondering how a somewhat daunting remainder of the schedule IMO is looking so different to someone else. I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer here ... Edited October 30, 2020 by Figster
ColoradoBills Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 Is this game "Monumental"? No, no one will be erecting monuments to this game at the stadium or downtown. Is this game really big for the team and it's fans? You bet your "sweet bippy" it is!
Chandler#81 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) Dolphins are .500 and kickin’ some azz. Remember, 2 additional teams get added this year. EVERYBODY is a playoff contender. edit; ok, not the Jets🤦♂️ Edited October 30, 2020 by Chandler#81 added a line 1
mjt328 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 This game is absolutely monumental. We haven't won the AFC East in 20 years. Our current regime is 0-6 against the Patriots. This is a team that dominated us for two decades. Winning this game would rip the monkey off our backs, make us 6-2 at the halfway point, and put the Bills totally in the driver's seat for taking the division. It would also give the Pats to a 2-5 record and drop them four games behind. They immediately become a longshot for the playoffs. And the once-mighty Patriots organization is forced to start planning for next year. On the flipside, losing Sunday would put the AFC East back in play. It would not only give the Patriots life and hope for winning the division, but it would be a confidence destroyer for the Bills organization. Previous Patriots teams were possibly vulnerable to an upset. This Patriots team is inferior and has a bunch of players hurt. If we can't pull it off this Sunday, the mental aspect is going to kick-in and this team is going to stop believing they CAN beat New England. Not to mention, our upcoming schedule is brutal, and the chances of landing a Wild Card with less than 10 wins is not great. Bottom Line.... This Sunday has the potential to spark the turning point for both organizations. WE ABSOLUTELY MUST WIN. 1
Figster Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Dolphins are .500 and kickin’ some azz. Remember, 2 additional teams get added this year. EVERYBODY is a playoff contender. True that, I'm afraid its only going to get worse with Tua, There was allot of discussion pre draft on who was the best QB between Tua and Burrows. I like Burrows, but was always on what seemed to be a losing argument with Tua. Time will tell...
MPT Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 11:40 AM, Charles Romes said: Right, The whole crowd chanting “it was Brady all along” after the Pats go 5-11 first year after the goat leaves. BB is not concerned about that at all. Belichick went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as a starter when Brady missed a year. He was the defensive coordinator for the Giants' historical upset win against the Bills in the Super Bowl. He had a successful coaching tenure with the Browns. His defenses are almost always top 5 in the league. He has 8 Super Bowl rings. No serious person is ever going to say that the Patriots' dominance was entirely due to Brady. This year, he's missing a league-high 8 of his players due to Covid opt outs, is coaching a new QB, and lost that QB for a game already. There is about zero pressure on him to prove anything this year.
mjt328 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Dolphins are .500 and kickin’ some azz. Remember, 2 additional teams get added this year. EVERYBODY is a playoff contender. The NFL only added one additional team. There will be 7 playoff spots this year (three Wild Cards), rather than the usual 6. You can pretty much assume that one WC spot will go to either the Steelers or Ravens, since only one can win the AFC North. The Browns are already 5-2 and have a cakewalk schedule against the NFC East. Hard to see them missing the playoffs this year. That leaves one more WC spot. And unfortunately, the AFC East is matched up against the best division in football (NFC West). All four teams have significantly harder matchups than teams like the Colts or Raiders. It would be pretty surprising if a WC team emerges from the AFC East this year. It's likely either win the division or bust. 11 minutes ago, Figster said: True that, I'm afraid its only going to get worse with Tua, There was allot of discussion pre draft on who was the best QB between Tua and Burrows. I like Burrows, but was always on what seemed to be a losing argument with Tua. Time will tell... Tua is a rookie, less than 12 months from a devastating injury that could have cost his career. I wouldn't expect much from him this season. 1
Figster Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MPT said: Belichick went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as a starter when Brady missed a year. He was the defensive coordinator for the Giants' historical upset win against the Bills in the Super Bowl. He had a successful coaching tenure with the Browns. His defenses are almost always top 5 in the league. He has 8 Super Bowl rings. No serious person is ever going to say that the Patriots' dominance was entirely due to Brady. This year, he's missing a league-high 8 of his players due to Covid opt outs, is coaching a new QB, and lost that QB for a game already. There is about zero pressure on him to prove anything this year. Perhaps this year maybe. Myself personally, having Brady has allowed B B to put most of his coaching skills to good work in the area he specializes in most IMO. I think If you give Wade Phillips the same QB as HC he wins a championship for the same reason IMO. 58 minutes ago, mjt328 said: The NFL only added one additional team. There will be 7 playoff spots this year (three Wild Cards), rather than the usual 6. You can pretty much assume that one WC spot will go to either the Steelers or Ravens, since only one can win the AFC North. The Browns are already 5-2 and have a cakewalk schedule against the NFC East. Hard to see them missing the playoffs this year. That leaves one more WC spot. And unfortunately, the AFC East is matched up against the best division in football (NFC West). All four teams have significantly harder matchups than teams like the Colts or Raiders. It would be pretty surprising if a WC team emerges from the AFC East this year. It's likely either win the division or bust. Tua is a rookie, less than 12 months from a devastating injury that could have cost his career. I wouldn't expect much from him this season. My expectations are still high...( dark horse/ wildcard ) Edited October 30, 2020 by Figster
ColoradoBills Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, MPT said: Belichick went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as a starter when Brady missed a year. He was the defensive coordinator for the Giants' historical upset win against the Bills in the Super Bowl. He had a successful coaching tenure with the Browns. His defenses are almost always top 5 in the league. He has 8 Super Bowl rings. No serious person is ever going to say that the Patriots' dominance was entirely due to Brady. This year, he's missing a league-high 8 of his players due to Covid opt outs, is coaching a new QB, and lost that QB for a game already. There is about zero pressure on him to prove anything this year. The 2020 NE* roster is NOT the 2008 NE* roster. No Wes Welker and Ben Watson in their prime not to mention Randy Moss. Pats* also played the AFC and NFC West Divisions (the 2 weakest divisions in football that year). It's the main reason the AFCE had a great season that year. I'm sorry (nothing to do with you) but I'm tired of hearing about this situation!
Putin Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, MPT said: Belichick went 11-5 with Matt Cassel as a starter when Brady missed a year. He was the defensive coordinator for the Giants' historical upset win against the Bills in the Super Bowl. He had a successful coaching tenure with the Browns. His defenses are almost always top 5 in the league. He has 8 Super Bowl rings. No serious person is ever going to say that the Patriots' dominance was entirely due to Brady. This year, he's missing a league-high 8 of his players due to Covid opt outs, is coaching a new QB, and lost that QB for a game already. There is about zero pressure on him to prove anything this year. I disagree completely about ( zero pressure on BB to prove anything) He let Brady walk because he believes he can win without him , he didn’t bring in Cam Newton for a rebuild he brought him to win NOW . 1
MPT Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: The 2020 NE* roster is NOT the 2008 NE* roster. No Wes Welker and Ben Watson in their prime not to mention Randy Moss. Pats* also played the AFC and NFC West Divisions (the 2 weakest divisions in football that year). It's the main reason the AFCE had a great season that year. I'm sorry (nothing to do with you) but I'm tired of hearing about this situation! They went 10-6 the next year with Brady and the same roster. May have been more difficult opponents that year, but 11-5 in the NFL with a backup QB is an impressive feat regardless of the schedule. Are you suggesting that an easier schedule in 2008 is evidence that Belichick isn't a good coach without Brady?
ColoradoBills Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, MPT said: They went 10-6 the next year with Brady and the same roster. May have been more difficult opponents that year, but 11-5 in the NFL with a backup QB is an impressive feat regardless of the schedule. Are you suggesting that an easier schedule in 2008 is evidence that Belichick isn't a good coach without Brady? Not at all. What I will state is the weak opponents allowed the AFCE to have an over performing record for all of it's teams that year. Good grief, the AFCW Champions were the 8-8 San Diego Chargers. Miami won the division at 11-5 with an aging gimp armed Chad Pennington. All I am saying is this "BB can win with anyone at QB" is a little over blown and using the 2008 season does not prove anything. What is BB record with a former MVP this year? 1
Greg S Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Well beating the Pats will still mean we haven't beaten anyone. The LA Rams say hello.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 30, 2020 Posted October 30, 2020 doesn't have to be monumental, just give me the W 1
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