jimmy10 Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) A bit in the Bills Buzz email this morning got me thinking about this (quoted below). Could Jerry be settling into that post-Kyle, post-Zo leadership vacuum on the defensive side of the ball we’ve all been talking about? I know he’s been a bit of a wildcard personality in his career with us and there’s no love lost between him and the zebras. (I had to laugh at the holding call he did draw, where he was basically mauled to the ground. Like, ahh, so that’s what it takes for #55 to finally get that call.) From today’s Bills Buzz: What was less evident to viewers was the impact Hughes had on the sideline. Frazier lauded the defensive end's attitude during the tumultuous first half and talked about how Hughes has actively filled the leadership role previously occupied by Kyle Williams and Lorenzo Alexander. "I was so encouraged by Jerry yesterday," Frazier said. "Early in the game, we had fell behind. Jerry was so positive and encouraging his teammates on the sideline. I remember saying to myself, 'Man, that's what you need out of one of your star players who's a leader.' Edited October 27, 2020 by jimmy10 3 2
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, jimmy10 said: A bit in the Bills Buzz email this morning got me thinking about this (quoted below). Could Jerry be settling into that post-Kyle, post-Zo leadership vacuum on the defensive side of the ball we’ve all been talking about? I know he’s been a bit of a wildcard personality in his career with us and there’s no love lost between him and the zebras. (I had to laugh at the holding call he did draw, where he was basically mauled to the ground. Like, ahh, so that’s what it takes for #55 to finally get that call.) From today’s Bills Buzz: What was less evident to viewers was the impact Hughes had on the sideline. Frazier lauded the defensive end's attitude during the tumultuous first half and talked about how Hughes has actively filled the leadership role previously occupied by Kyle Williams and Lorenzo Alexander. "I was so encouraged by Jerry yesterday," Frazier said. "Early in the game, we had fell behind. Jerry was so positive and encouraging his teammates on the sideline. I remember saying to myself, 'Man, that's what you need out of one of your star players who's a leader.' I believe he held a players only meeting for the defensive line as well. Good to see. 4
PaattMaann Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 he's been a leader here for years. He is only seen negatively by fans who don't really know what they are seeing on a football field. 2 4
jimmy10 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, BillsMafi$ said: Too bad he’s not the long term solution Neither were Zo or Kyle at the point in their careers when they were the leaders. Maybe it’s more of a natural elder statesman type role than long term solution. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 What if Hughes just goes nuts and becomes the biggest terror on defense in the NFL....and wins the defensive MVP? 9 1
MJS Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: he's been a leader here for years. He is only seen negatively by fans who don't really know what they are seeing on a football field. Hughes used to get hot headed every game and take stupid penalties and mouth off to the refs. I don't agree that he has been a leader for years. He has been a decent player for years, but not necessarily a leader. But he had a good game, so that's good. 2
Rocky Landing Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) I do believe he's been a leader. I believe he's the longest tenured player on the team. Edited October 27, 2020 by Rocky Landing 1
WEATHER DOT COM Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 I hope he's a leader this year against teams other than the Jets. 2 1
DrDawkinstein Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 Funny you have him "settling into" the leadership position... in what will likely be his last season as a Bill. But whatever gets us through this season, since Edmunds clearly isnt ready to lead the Defense yet as he has his own job to worry about. 16 minutes ago, MJS said: Hughes used to get hot headed every game and take stupid penalties and mouth off to the refs. I don't agree that he has been a leader for years. He has been a decent player for years, but not necessarily a leader. But he had a good game, so that's good. That doesnt mean he hasnt held any sway with his team mates and young players. I also believe players look more towards the production, and less at stupid penalites (they all hate the refs), than us critical fans do. They spend so much more time together, they see way more than just a Personal Foul which was most likely BS anyways. 1
billsfanmiamioh Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 Glad he’s doing something. He was invisible until this past week. 1
TN Bills Fan Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 I noticed that Hughes sat quite a bit in the first half. I think they may have determined he is no longer as effective as an every down LB. He was more effective with a little less playing time. They also had him lined up on the other side more, and running more stunts.
Cubanmist Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 It was the Jets! Let’s not get too carried away. He was a ghost against all other teams played thus far.
NewEra Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: he's been a leader here for years. He is only seen negatively by fans who don't really know what they are seeing on a football field. This. 9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Funny you have him "settling into" the leadership position... in what will likely be his last season as a Bill. But whatever gets us through this season, since Edmunds clearly isnt ready to lead the Defense yet as he has his own job to worry about. That doesnt mean he hasnt held any sway with his team mates and young players. I also believe players look more towards the production, and less at stupid penalites (they all hate the refs), than us critical fans do. They spend so much more time together, they see way more than just a Personal Foul which was most likely BS anyways. Production and work ethic. Year in year out, we’d hear how Jerry would be dominating practice while setting an example for the kids of how to practice and how to work. but he yells at refs 1
Matt_In_NH Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 If he gets a 15 yarder that hurts us in this game.........this team needs to NOT shoot themselves in the foot this week. Seriously, he has calmed down a lot with the stupid penalties but he is also not as dynamic as he was a few years ago....Then again neither am I.
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 Jerry Hughes is the only guy with any ability on the D line that can at least talk the talk. The only problem is that I don't think Hughes is a leader type of player. Hughes knows what his job is and he does it for the most part. Hughes lets his play on the field do the talking but I don't think he is the Leader type.
NewEra Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, TN Bills Fan said: I noticed that Hughes sat quite a bit in the first half. I think they may have determined he is no longer as effective as an every down LB. He was more effective with a little less playing time. They also had him lined up on the other side more, and running more stunts. He’s a defensive end, not LB. Which is “the other side”? He’s been playing the majority of his snaps this season on the left. He and Addison primarily played the right side for both of their careers. It appears that Jerry is better than Mario on the left, so he’s been playing a position he hasn’t played much of during his career. switching sides seems simple, but if you’ve only played one side for the last several years, the muscle memory is much different. The exact opposite. 4 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Jerry Hughes is the only guy with any ability on the D line that can at least talk the talk. The only problem is that I don't think Hughes is a leader type of player. Hughes knows what his job is and he does it for the most part. Hughes lets his play on the field do the talking but I don't think he is the Leader type. Based on what? He’s always talking, always encouraging. He gave up his position for the betterment of the team. He gets mad. Leaders can’t show negative emulation?
PaattMaann Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 46 minutes ago, MJS said: Hughes used to get hot headed every game and take stupid penalties and mouth off to the refs. I don't agree that he has been a leader for years. He has been a decent player for years, but not necessarily a leader. But he had a good game, so that's good. that has nothing to do with him not being a leader of the team
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s a defensive end, not LB. Which is “the other side”? He’s been playing the majority of his snaps this season on the left. He and Addison primarily played the right side for both of their careers. It appears that Jerry is better than Mario on the left, so he’s been playing a position he hasn’t played much of during his career. switching sides seems simple, but if you’ve only played one side for the last several years, the muscle memory is much different. The exact opposite. Based on what? He’s always talking, always encouraging. He gave up his position for the betterment of the team. He gets mad. Leaders can’t show negative emulation? Alexander and Talley were leaders right out of the gate, it was just ingrained in their DNA. I'm sorry if I don't see that with Hughes.
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