TBBills Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Unforgiven said: I'm guessing number 1 priority would be to set up the concentration camps. Trump did that with the mexicans.
Tiberius Posted October 27, 2020 Author Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, New Improved DC Tom said: Obviously, the first thing he should do is dismantle the Trump Administration's policy of publicly separating illegal immigrant families and detaining illegal immigrant children, and go back to the Obama Administration's policy of secretly separating illegal immigrant families and detaining illegal immigrant children... No, really? Why make up stuff?
SoCal Deek Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 43 minutes ago, TBBills said: Trump did that with the mexicans. They weren't MEXICANS.....you idiot. God, the racism on here is breathtaking. 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Unforgiven said: I'm guessing number 1 priority would be to set up the concentration camps. ...naw...resignation for the good of the country..............
spartacus Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 too big of an assumption the better question is will Joe continue to hide in his basement after Trump wins and the DOJ comes to prosecute his treasonous acts Will the Ds throw Joe under the bus as a sacrificial offering? 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, spartacus said: too big of an assumption the better question is will Joe continue to hide in his basement after Trump wins and the DOJ comes to prosecute his treasonous acts Will the Ds throw Joe under the bus as a sacrificial offering? ...he'll be fitted with the same puppet strings that Barry wore for the Clintons...... 1
keepthefaith Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 The priorities are the same regardless of who wins. In no particular order 1. Cut fed spending and reduce budget deficits, this includes serious entitlement revisions and might include some tax increases 2. End decades of illegal immigration. Right-size legal immigration and plug the problems at borders and visa over stays 3. End Obamacare, it simply didn't deliver what was promised and is not worth defending. Get into the nuts and bolts of health insurance and put new regs and rules in place that allow for more choice, health spending accounts for all and favorable tax treatment for all. Revise Medicaid to reduce the rate of cost increase. 4. Continue peace progress in Middle East started by Trump and fully exit Iraq and Afganistan. Reduce Chinese manufacturing dependence and continue tough stance on China and include China's poor environmental record. 5. Continue economic development efforts in areas in poor economic condition 6. Clean up 2016 domestic/government election interference and keep anyone involved in this fiasco from last Obama Admin out of government service. Prosecute wrondoers. 7. Make clear what are state and fed responsibilities and keep fed out of state and local issues. Example, states that run university programs should find their own ways to reduce college expenses for their citizens. 8. Tell populace that race relations are the responsibility of the people. Fed gov to continue to enforce laws in this area but beyond that it's up to the people. 9. Get fed gov out of exclusive college loan business and return it back to private sector and to the state university systems. Continue some fed grant programs. 1 1
CardinalScotts Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 Covid, Stimulous. Wealth management people from all over have repeatedly said Biden election will not effect stock market. It might move day 1 or 2 but not a big change as an end result 1
snafu Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: How should they spend their political capital? Expanded health insurance--assuming Supreme Court doesn't go kill joy on the people's health care Green Energy to save the planet? Making sure democracy is secure by pushing election reform? Passing laws to make sure our national sovereignty is safer from the likes of filthy fifth columnists and Putin puppets? Pandemic relief measures? Workers rights issues? Something else They'll spend their political capital in an ***** of stupidity. You'll see.
frostbitmic Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 1. Fumigation of the swamp ... AKA The White House. 2. Take the Corona Virus seriously 3. Send the white supremacists back under the rocks from which they emerged 4. Re-establish relations with countries that we were allies with and that now half laugh and half have pity on us 5. Make America Great Again 2 1
Westside Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: 1. Fumigation of the swamp ... AKA The White House. 2. Take the Corona Virus seriously 3. Send the white supremacists back under the rocks from which they emerged 4. Re-establish relations with countries that we were allies with and that now half laugh and half have pity on us 5. Make America Great Again Talk about having your head in the sand. 1
New Improved DC Tom Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: No, really? Why make up stuff? Do you not remember when the news first floated the "Trump is putting kids in cages" story, but used an Obama-era photo of kids in cages? They had to pull the story, wait a few months, and restart it. That's how badly fools like you have been manipulated. 1 1
Dragoon Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, New Improved DC Tom said: Do you not remember when the news first floated the "Trump is putting kids in cages" story, but used an Obama-era photo of kids in cages? They had to pull the story, wait a few months, and restart it. That's how badly fools like you have been manipulated. None of them (liberals) know that. NONE OF THEM.
SoTier Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Unforgiven said: Now that DR banned me from that other page looks like I'll be here full time until you gais get me banned from here. Yay! I can't possibly imagine how such an insightful poster such as you could possibly get banned from a site run by DR. 2 hours ago, keepthefaith said: The priorities are the same regardless of who wins. In no particular order 1. Cut fed spending and reduce budget deficits, this includes serious entitlement revisions and might include some tax increases 2. End decades of illegal immigration. Right-size legal immigration and plug the problems at borders and visa over stays 3. End Obamacare, it simply didn't deliver what was promised and is not worth defending. Get into the nuts and bolts of health insurance and put new regs and rules in place that allow for more choice, health spending accounts for all and favorable tax treatment for all. Revise Medicaid to reduce the rate of cost increase. 4. Continue peace progress in Middle East started by Trump and fully exit Iraq and Afganistan. Reduce Chinese manufacturing dependence and continue tough stance on China and include China's poor environmental record. 5. Continue economic development efforts in areas in poor economic condition 6. Clean up 2016 domestic/government election interference and keep anyone involved in this fiasco from last Obama Admin out of government service. Prosecute wrondoers. 7. Make clear what are state and fed responsibilities and keep fed out of state and local issues. Example, states that run university programs should find their own ways to reduce college expenses for their citizens. 8. Tell populace that race relations are the responsibility of the people. Fed gov to continue to enforce laws in this area but beyond that it's up to the people. 9. Get fed gov out of exclusive college loan business and return it back to private sector and to the state university systems. Continue some fed grant programs. I don't agree with many of your points but at least you've given some points to discuss. We need to get back to discussing issues with civility and listening to each other rather than just throwing bombs across the morass. 2 hours ago, CardinalScotts said: Covid, Stimulous. Wealth management people from all over have repeatedly said Biden election will not effect stock market. It might move day 1 or 2 but not a big change as an end result Basically this is it. Nothing gets done unless/until the coronavirus is dealt with. If a stimulus program isn't passed in the lame-duck session of Congress between the election and the swearing in of the new Congress on January 3, it will be quickly passed in the new Congress. It should have been passed months ago, and has magnified the economic misery of the pandemic.
Unforgiven Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 2 hours ago, frostbitmic said: 1. Fumigation of the swamp ... AKA The White House. 2. Take the Corona Virus seriously 3. Send the white supremacists back under the rocks from which they emerged 4. Re-establish relations with countries that we were allies with and that now half laugh and half have pity on us 5. Make America Great Again lol.. how this has turned into a safe space for the toobin libs
billsfan89 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Gary M said: So basically kill the economy, that's all you had say, kill the economy, got it. Tax cuts a deregulation are a proven failure. It failed under George W Bush and it failed under Trump. Trump initiated tax cuts and deregulation during a red hot economy, he promised 3% or high GDP growth would occur year after year. The highest it got to was 2.9% and 2.2% (2018 and 2019 respectively) which were similar to Obama's numbers (2015 2.9% and 2021 2.2% many other years in the 2% range.) AKA despite all the tax cuts and deregulation you say helps the economy by the simplest metrics couldn't get the US economy to 3% growth when the tax cuts and deregulation occurred during an uptime for the economy (by those metrics.) Perhaps a better economic approach would be to invest in infrastructure? Instead of massive tax giveaway perhaps massive infrastructure spending is a better idea? Infrastructure has a longer lasting and more sustained impact on economic growth. From a common sense perspective infrastructure built during the New Deal is still being used today to help move people and commerce, the interstate highway system built from the late 50's to early 90's is still helping move commerce. Are the George W Bush tax cuts still jumping any economic activity? 1
billsfan89 Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) I doubt Biden will do most of this but a "New" New Deal for America's 21st century is desperately needed. The cut taxes and deregulation scheme of the past 40 years have failed. It is time for the federal government to actually rebuild the nation and invest in its people and not its corporations. I would put these as just a few things that would make America a much better place. I would also pack the Supreme Court, if the GOP can play hardball ruthless politics then why not have an actual opposition party instead of GOP lite. 1- Universal Healthcare - Healthcare costs too much in the US and I see no reason why the US couldn't do what all other industrialized countries do and simply pay for healthcare via taxes like we already do for police, fire, military and various other services. The private system costs too much due to an insane billing bureaucracy where healthcare providers have to negotiate rates with insurance companies year after year and providers having to bill 10 different companies about all the different plans and coverages. It's a useless mess that makes the American people less able to go into business for themselves (So many can't start a business because they don't want to lose their healthcare coverage.) You would likely pay less in taxes for coverage you know isn't going away and isn't filled with deductibles and co-insurance than you would in private taxes to large corporations taking some off the top for a service that adds no value (how does a private health financing system add to innovation?) 2- Infrastructure - Trump's grand infrastructure plan was to give massive tax breaks and privatize infrastructure. The US needs to spend trillions on green and new infrastructure. It is estimated that over the lifetime of an infrastructures use for every dollar that was spent on that infrastructure the project will generate 7 dollars worth of economic activity. Simply put stuff built during the New Deal is helping to move commerce and generating economic activity. These projects have a long lasting positive impact. 3- Forgive Student Debt- Forgiving student debt and giving some rebate to those who have paid back in the last 5 years, is probably one of the most impactful things you can do to stimulate the economy. You wouldn't give an 18 year old with no collateral a 100k business or personal loan yet we are OK with them getting saddled with student loans? Sorry, this is just non-sense, a simple wall street speculation tax would easily pay for this type of program in a decade. 4- No cost at point of use trade school and public college - If the US wants to be competitive with countries like Germany we need an educated and skilled workforce. If the US wants to drive down the cost of college offer students a high quality free alternative. 5- End public student loans and have limited bankruptcy protections on private student loans- Assuming you have done number 4, you return student loans to the private sector. Private schools will not only face downward pressure from public no cost schools but they will be tasked with reducing tuition for students who no longer have access to tax supported student loans. 6- End the drug war - Treat drugs as a public health issue. Legalize and tax marijuana at the state level and decriminalize all other drugs. 7- End the overseas wars - It's about time we bring our military home and stop being the world's policemen. Trump made this promise and all he did was yo-yo troop levels like Obama, veto the stop arming terrorists act so he can keep selling arms to the Saudi's, and continue to bomb 7 nations 400% more. We no longer have the money or the appetite for a failed and expensive foreign policy. Take the money we spend there and spend it on taking care of the troops and deploying the military to fix the water systems and other vital infrastructure. Edited October 28, 2020 by billsfan89 2
BringBackFergy Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 Biden should do the following: 1) Guarantee a $1000/week payment to every American (or illegal alien...sorry, immigrant) over age 13; 2) Health insurance for every human, born or unborn; 3) Free college education for every person (age 14-78) with tuition forgiveness so long as they take 2 credit hours of “Patriotic/Democratic Theory”; 4) Every person plants a tree...in their yard, school or anywhere they want; 5) Defund the military...it’s just world police. Dumb 1
aristocrat Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said: Biden should do the following: 1) Guarantee a $1000/week payment to every American (or illegal alien...sorry, immigrant) over age 13; 2) Health insurance for every human, born or unborn; 3) Free college education for every person (age 14-78) with tuition forgiveness so long as they take 2 credit hours of “Patriotic/Democratic Theory”; 4) Every person plants a tree...in their yard, school or anywhere they want; 5) Defund the military...it’s just world police. Dumb so 52k per person is what? 15 trillion per year?
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