ngbills Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) I think the Bills need moves on the Defense anywhere. The offense could use help at TE, possibly RB and OL depth. List any realistic targets: Defense DT - Atkins, Q Williams, Tomlinson, Jarrett DE/LB - Dunlap, Fowler, Kerrigan, Hewitt DB - Poole, King, Gilmore Offense TE's - Rudolph, Fells or Njoku WR's - Will Fuller or John Ross RB's - Breida, Freeman, Lindsay Edited October 26, 2020 by ngbills 1
BillsfaninSB Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Doesn’t seem like Beane’s style to make in season trades of any significants.
TwistofFate Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I don't think we will make a trade, and it wouldn't bother me if we don't. We have what we have and will have to deal with it. 1
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, ngbills said: I'll take the ones in bold please. Defense DT - Atkins, Q Williams, Tomlinson, Jarrett DE/LB - Dunlap, Fowler, Kerrigan, Hewitt DB - Poole, King, Gilmore Offense TE's - Rudolph, Fells or Njoku WR's - Will Fuller or John Ross RB's - Breida, Freeman, Lindsay
Logic Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) I'm not really sure why, but I'm getting a "we think we're fine with the guys we have" vibe from the Bills. I don't expect them to make a trade. Part of the problem, it should be mentioned, is that they don't have the cap space to take on any big contracts. Anyone they trade for would have to be pretty cheap. Speaking specifically of some of the guys mentioned in the OP: We can't afford Atkins, Dunlap, or Rudolph. Maybe if we got someone to take Murphy's bad contract, but that seems like a long shot. Edited October 26, 2020 by Logic 1
ngbills Posted October 26, 2020 Author Posted October 26, 2020 2019 - Traded away Zay in October; No additions via trade. 2018 - Nothing 2017 - Traded for K Benjamin; Traded away Dareus 1
BigBuff423 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Difficult part about answering this poll is that while I think most of us "want" a trade for a position, we don't know what the compensation would need to be in order for it to get done. Beane's magical wizardry in the past has made us like, 'Woah, that's a great deal' and to that end, I'm all for it. But if it's giving up a 1st or 2nd round pick, no thanks. If it's a 3rd, it should be for someone relatively younger and still in their prime or at least 4ish good years left, otherwise, I think this team is built for the long haul and don't want to give up picks for that considering where the team is now. That said, even the above may not apply for certain players at certain positions - so it really does depend on the position, player and compensation.
MJS Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I don't think they will and I won't be disappointed. I think we have the pieces we need. Just need to get healthy on both sides of the ball. If there was one position I think would help it would be 1 tech DT. 2
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, ngbills said: 2019 - Traded away Zay in October; No additions via trade. 2018 - Nothing 2017 - Traded for K Benjamin; Traded away Dareus 2017 - making a playoff push we traded for Benjamin. Clearest issue was offense. 2018 - no playoffs hopes at deadline 2019 - attempted to trade for Diggs. Clearest is was offense. 2020 - playoff push, clearest issue is Defense. They won’t overspend and I think that is what has to be kept in mind but I expect them to make a move defensively to try and get our Defense back on track.
Rc2catch Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I think some fans on here have unrealistic expectations. How many players are actually available for trade? How many can we afford into our cap? How many can be had at a decent value? The options are getting a little slim now aren’t they?
MJS Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I think some fans on here have unrealistic expectations. How many players are actually available for trade? How many can we afford into our cap? How many can be had at a decent value? The options are getting a little slim now aren’t they? Some of them are probably hockey fans. They make trades all the time in hockey. 1
Warcodered Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, ngbills said: I think the Bills need moves on the Defense anywhere. The offense could use help at TE, possibly RB and OL depth. List any realistic targets: Defense DT - Atkins, Q Williams, Tomlinson, Jarrett DE/LB - Dunlap, Fowler, Kerrigan, Hewitt DB - Poole, King, Gilmore Offense TE's - Rudolph, Fells or Njoku WR's - Will Fuller or John Ross RB's - Breida, Freeman, Lindsay In what world are Q Williams and Gilmore realistic targets for the Bills. 2 2 2
Rc2catch Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, MJS said: Some of them are probably hockey fans. They make trades all the time in hockey. If the Bills are trading this season it needs to be an NBA style trade to move salaries to acquire talent. We can’t afford half the talent the OP lists.
RiotAct Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I voted “Yes” to both, although my disappointment level wouldn’t exactly be off the charts. More like “a little disappointed”.
msw2112 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 As much as things looked differently a few weeks ago, this team is probably a playoff team, but not a true Super Bowl contender. As such, does it make sense to give up future assets (mid-to-high round draft picks) for a couple of established veterans in positions of need? That's aside from Salary Cap considerations. Are we really one or two players away? Would one or two new players push us over the top? And if we have to give up players to acquire players in positions of need, who do we give up? We could strengthen one area of need, but at the cost of weakening another. I'm sure Beane is scouring the market and talking with other teams, and would be willing to make a deal that doesn't have long-term negative consequences.
whatdrought Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, Logic said: I'm not really sure why, but I'm getting a "we think we're fine with the guys we have" vibe from the Bills. I don't expect them to make a trade. Part of the problem, it should be mentioned, is that they don't have the cap space to take on any big contracts. Anyone they trade for would have to be pretty cheap. Speaking specifically of some of the guys mentioned in the OP: We can't afford Atkins, Dunlap, or Rudolph. Maybe if we got someone to take Murphy's bad contract, but that seems like a long shot. more or less where I’m at. I don’t see many people selling cheap pieces unless they’re guys they can’t resign next year. That’s why Tomlinson from NYG make some sense, but I think it would have happened after Thursday’s game. 1
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 If the right player is available for the right price I hope we pull off a trade. I don't want to lose valuable draft capital for a rental type player. On a side note the Anchor Bar has surprisingly good Pizza.
ngbills Posted October 26, 2020 Author Posted October 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, Warcodered said: In what world are Q Williams and Gilmore realistic targets for the Bills. When the get traded elsewhere...just like with Yannick folks are saying no way he gets traded, would cost too much etc.
Simon Says Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ngbills said: I think the Bills need moves on the Defense anywhere. The offense could use help at TE, possibly RB and OL depth. List any realistic targets: Defense DT - Atkins, Q Williams, Tomlinson, Jarrett DE/LB - Dunlap, Fowler, Kerrigan, Hewitt DB - Poole, King, Gilmore Offense TE's - Rudolph, Fells or Njoku WR's - Will Fuller or John Ross RB's - Breida, Freeman, Lindsay Bills can't afford guys like Gilmore . Somebody in the last year of a rookie deal for a late round pick,maybe
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