Unforgiven Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) ...until we kicked the living crap outta him to save the free world BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh joe go back to sleep (with the Russians, no less, haha) Edited October 23, 2020 by Unforgiven
formerlyofCtown Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: ...until we kicked the living crap outta him to save the free world BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh joe go back to sleep (with the Russians, no less, haha) Certain Americans were Edited October 23, 2020 by formerlyofCtown
Unforgiven Posted October 23, 2020 Author Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Certain Americans were There's idiots everywhere. I bet they were no where near 60 million + American hating communist numbers. Like this idiot ou've chosen to ignore content by Q-baby!. Edited October 23, 2020 by Unforgiven
formerlyofCtown Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: There's idiots everywhere. I bet they were no where near 60 million + American hating communist numbers. Like this idiot ou've chosen to ignore content by Q-baby!. Probably not. Here is a little knowledge for you. 1. There has never been a Communist nation in the history of the world. 2. China and Russia actually have socialist governments. 3. The other Socialist nation of WW2 era is... Nazi Germany. Everything Socialist regime that has ever existed has created a blood bath of it's own people. That in fact is one of the things they must do.
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Probably not. Here is a little knowledge for you. 1. There has never been a Communist nation in the history of the world. 2. China and Russia actually have socialist governments. 3. The other Socialist nation of WW2 era is... Nazi Germany. Everything Socialist regime that has ever existed has created a blood bath of it's own people. That in fact is one of the things they must do. My smell test of whether a country is free or not is how they control their national borders. A free society maintains a border patrol/enforcement organization to keep people from entering illegally (or if you prefer, undocumented). Socialist/Communist countries maintain border patrols to keep people from leaving. Generally by force up and including lethal force. It one of the biggest tools of state control available to them designed to enslave the most productive members of society in order to keep the elites and their armies of social enforcers living well. If all the productive people leave the whole thing goes to Hell. My message to wanna-be American Socialist is that I have no issue with them being Socialists. In fact there's nothing stopping them from doing it now. Just get a business or some enterprise together and apply the socialist principals, whatever they might be, in running the organization. See if it works. But please don't try to force me to go along with your plan. I kind of get the idea that you all expect people like me, people that have jobs and a paycheck, are going to foot the bill for all your "great" ideas. You want to play, then you need to pay. Best of luck. 1 1
formerlyofCtown Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: My smell test of whether a country is free or not is how they control their national borders. A free society maintains a border patrol/enforcement organization to keep people from entering illegally (or if you prefer, undocumented). Socialist/Communist countries maintain border patrols to keep people from leaving. Generally by force up and including lethal force. It one of the biggest tools of state control available to them designed to enslave the most productive members of society in order to keep the elites and their armies of social enforcers living well. If all the productive people leave the whole thing goes to Hell. My message to wanna-be American Socialist is that I have no issue with them being Socialists. In fact there's nothing stopping them from doing it now. Just get a business or some enterprise together and apply the socialist principals, whatever they might be, in running the organization. See if it works. But please don't try to force me to go along with your plan. I kind of get the idea that you all expect people like me, people that have jobs and a paycheck, are going to foot the bill for all your "great" ideas. You want to play, then you need to pay. Best of luck. American Socialist think that everyone is upper middle class in socialism. They also think that being socialist makes you righteous. The reality is socialism begins with theft and moves on to Democide(ironic term, though the far right is no better). 1
Capco Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 2 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: 3. The other Socialist nation of WW2 era is... Nazi Germany. 🤦♂️
Tiberius Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: My smell test of whether a country is free or not is how they control their national borders. A free society maintains a border patrol/enforcement organization to keep people from entering illegally (or if you prefer, undocumented). Socialist/Communist countries maintain border patrols to keep people from leaving. Generally by force up and including lethal force. It one of the biggest tools of state control available to them designed to enslave the most productive members of society in order to keep the elites and their armies of social enforcers living well. If all the productive people leave the whole thing goes to Hell. My message to wanna-be American Socialist is that I have no issue with them being Socialists. In fact there's nothing stopping them from doing it now. Just get a business or some enterprise together and apply the socialist principals, whatever they might be, in running the organization. See if it works. But please don't try to force me to go along with your plan. I kind of get the idea that you all expect people like me, people that have jobs and a paycheck, are going to foot the bill for all your "great" ideas. You want to play, then you need to pay. Best of luck. We are a nation of immigrants, all throughout our history. Open border country for a long long time 2 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: American Socialist think that everyone is upper middle class in socialism. They also think that being socialist makes you righteous. The reality is socialism begins with theft and moves on to Democide(ironic term, though the far right is no better). Hitler was no socialist. That is a foolish thing to say.
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 NAZI stands for National Socialist (German) Workers Party. So yes, Hitler came to power under a socialist party platform and agenda. Beware socialists bearing gifts. A Trojan Horse. Don't be fooled by a something for nothing proposition. The thing people always end up surrendering is their freedom. This you can 100% count on.
New Improved DC Tom Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: NAZI stands for National Socialist (German) Workers Party. So yes, Hitler came to power under a socialist party platform and agenda. Beware socialists bearing gifts. A Trojan Horse. Don't be fooled by a something for nothing proposition. The thing people always end up surrendering is their freedom. This you can 100% count on. "But forget reality! It's right there IN THE NAME!!!" Only idiots make that semantic argument. Why not explain HOW Nazi Germany was socialist? I'll even give you a head start: "People's Car."
aristocrat Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 The nazis were not socialists. We were also not friendly with them. 1
RiotAct Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Unforgiven said: ...until we kicked the living crap outta him to save the free world BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh joe go back to sleep (with the Russians, no less, haha) yeah that elicited an eyebrow raise from me as well last night. No, Joe, America was never “friendly” with Hitler. 2
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, New Improved DC Tom said: "But forget reality! It's right there IN THE NAME!!!" Only idiots make that semantic argument. Why not explain HOW Nazi Germany was socialist? I'll even give you a head start: "People's Car." Yes, Volkswagon. Watch the series" Hilter's Empire: The Post-War Plan". It makes what the Reich was all about very clear. State control over every aspect of the lives of every citizen. A belief the citizen exists to serve the state. No freedom of choice or self determination. That's a socialist's wet dream. And still there are people that insist the NAZI's were not socialists even in the face of a clear historical record. Because they were brutal thugs and psychotic murderers? News flash. So are ALL socialist regimes. Deniers are either in denial of history or ignorant of history or simply refuse to accept the truth. Preferring to live in the fantasy that has been created for them to believe in. That fantasy being socialism is "good".
Reality Check Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 The Nazis were the result of an investment by Western financiers and industrialists. To pretend otherwise is pretty ignorant. The BIS (Bank of International Settlements) is the Central Bank for Central Banks, and was originally a Nazi bank joining Germany to the USA via NYC at the time. The Bush family were involved in its inception. The Rockefeller's invested, Henry Ford, IBM, and many others in partnership with Great Britain. They need a bulwark to head east and take on the Soviet Union. Never forget all the Nazi scientists, doctors, and weapons engineers that we took in after the war. These people were an American investment. Nasa used many of these same scientists. There is a massive history behind the rise of the Nazis, and pretending that America was not an original proponent is truly ignorant.
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Reality Check said: The Nazis were the result of an investment by Western financiers and industrialists. To pretend otherwise is pretty ignorant. The BIS (Bank of International Settlements) is the Central Bank for Central Banks, and was originally a Nazi bank joining Germany to the USA via NYC at the time. The Bush family were involved in its inception. The Rockefeller's invested, Henry Ford, IBM, and many others in partnership with Great Britain. They need a bulwark to head east and take on the Soviet Union. Never forget all the Nazi scientists, doctors, and weapons engineers that we took in after the war. These people were an American investment. Nasa used many of these same scientists. There is a massive history behind the rise of the Nazis, and pretending that America was not an original proponent is truly ignorant. No America was not a proponent of the NAZI's. The allegation, even if true, that private individuals, organizations, and business provided support to the NAZI's pre-war does not by definition conclude that America, its government, and citizens supported the NAZI's. Those group represented their own interests. The U.S. clearly supported the Allies, Brittan. France, and other occupied countries before entering the war. After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Germany declared war on the U.S. A fact is that America was the only country Germany offically declared war on during WW2.
bdutton Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Unforgiven said: ...until we kicked the living crap outta him to save the free world BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh joe go back to sleep (with the Russians, no less, haha) Hitler did Nazi see it coming.
Reality Check Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: No America was not a proponent of the NAZI's. The allegation, even if true, that private individuals, organizations, and business provided support to the NAZI's pre-war does not by definition conclude that America, its government, and citizens supported the NAZI's. Those group represented their own interests. The U.S. clearly supported the Allies, Brittan. France, and other occupied countries before entering the war. After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Germany declared war on the U.S. A fact is that America was the only country Germany offically declared war on during WW2. You are over-simplifying the extent of American support for the Nazis, right into current events. Edited October 24, 2020 by Reality Check
Unforgiven Posted October 24, 2020 Author Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: American Socialist think that everyone is upper middle class in socialism. They also think that being socialist makes you righteous. The reality is socialism begins with theft and moves on to Democide(ironic term, though the far right is no better). socialism...communism...liberalism, all the same ***** . American baby, democracy... Want stuff? Start a business or get a job. otherwise stop whining. Edited October 24, 2020 by Unforgiven 1
Recommended Posts