buffaloboyinATL Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 I think they are trading players away now so that they can say, “see we were rebuilding this whole time. We weren’t really trying to win, please don’t fire us.” 1
YoloinOhio Posted October 19, 2020 Author Posted October 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: relax, champ, that was us 36 months ago. The Bills were a playoff team 3 years ago - I’m legitimately confused. Worst team in nfl history? 4 1
machine gun kelly Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: To be fully honest, if I owned the Jets I am quite sure that I too would want to tank. That said, I think that a tank to this degree threatens the integrity of the league in some way. It costs a lot of money to be an NFL Fan. I have spent several thousands of dollars being a Bills Fan in terms of attending games (to include travel and hotels), let alone Directv, and purchasing products with the logo. Am I not entitled to think that the Bills would at least try to win? I don't know mgk, something just doesn't feel right to me about this situation. Bill, my friend, I agree this obviouS tanking just stinks for the league and that team. You had mentioned another team, and the only example I can think of which is nowhere close to this debacle is my other team, 2nd of course to the Bills, is the Bucs, when they threw the last half of the last game to get the #1 spot for Winston over Marriotta that year. It was obvious was pulling everyone in the second half of that last game for Winston. Look how good that worked out for Tampa and TN. Tanking cheapens the team so wasn’t arguing there at all. I just have buddies who are Jets fans, transplants from NY/NJ as they are the NJ Jets as well as the NJ Giants, and I just can’t bust their chops. They are good guys, my Giants friends too, and at least the Giants are trying to win. I would be beside myself if I had a team that sucked since 1969. Maybe a reprieve when Parcells was briefly there at the Jets. All I can say is say a prayer for our beloved Bills today, and could be a fun two weeks with the Jets, and Pats, and can’t believe ESPN’s mock projection of the Bills at 7-1 at the half mark would be amazing. I’m not assuming after the Chiefs if we win, will definitely beat the Pats, but it’s looking better. We have some tough games after the Chiefs and Pats, like the Hawks. 1
Buffalo Junction Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 11 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What team will give them a 2nd for Darnold right now? With how good Tannehill has been post-Gase I’m sure there’s a few GM/coach combos willing to gamble with a second on Darnold’s regression being all on Gase. Particularly some of the teams with older or journeyman QBs: Colts, Bucs, Saints, Bears, Vikings, Steelers, and possibly the Cowboys if they decide to move on from Dak.
Royale with Cheese Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said: relax, champ, that was us 36 months ago. I might be reaching but I think your criteria for the Bills might be a little unfair.
shoshin Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) Thank your deity of choice that Adam Gase is still the coach of the Jets. 1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I think they are trading players away now so that they can say, “see we were rebuilding this whole time. We weren’t really trying to win, please don’t fire us.” You can't rebuild a team in the NFL like you can in basketball. The right single player can make an NBA team. Football has a lot more pieces on the court and in staffs. The Jets are decimating a culture that was already trashed. And they do not have a talent base to work with. Who's their most talented player? Crowder? I don't give a lot of credit to the Pegulas for hiring McBeane (no credit because of Ryan and Sabres) but I do give them credit for recognizing they got it right. Edited October 19, 2020 by shoshin 1
Rc2catch Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: With how good Tannehill has been post-Gase I’m sure there’s a few GM/coach combos willing to gamble with a second on Darnold’s regression being all on Gase. Particularly some of the teams with older or journeyman QBs: Colts, Bucs, Saints, Bears, Vikings, Steelers, and possibly the Cowboys if they decide to move on from Dak. Nobody is giving much for Darnold. Not because of how bad he’s been but because teams know the Jets will cut him or just wait until his deal runs out. Maybe a 4th at best 3
BuffaloBills1998 Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 15 hours ago, whorlnut said: So clear that they are doing all they can to try to get Trevor Lawrence. And it scares the heck out of me...haha. Not really, most jets fans think they have a QB problem when the reality is that they have a whole team problem. They’ll ruin Lawrence like they’re doing to Darnold 2
Buffalo Junction Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Rc2catch said: Nobody is giving much for Darnold. Not because of how bad he’s been but because teams know the Jets will cut him or just wait until his deal runs out. Maybe a 4th at best We’ll see. It only takes two teams to drive the price up, and Darnold has more natural talent and experience than the majority of 2nd round QBs. He’d be a high level backup for a team like the Bucs or Steelers that could probably be extended on a team friendly deal with performance incentives.
Nextmanup Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 After the Bills/Jets game, I said the Jets look like a bottom 3 team, league wide. After 6 games they are nicely situated dead last in the league, though there is a mountain of teams just above them with only 1 win each. It seems like you could talk your way into a trade with the Jets right now for pretty much anyone on their roster.
Rc2catch Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: We’ll see. It only takes two teams to drive the price up, and Darnold has more natural talent and experience than the majority of 2nd round QBs. He’d be a high level backup for a team like the Bucs or Steelers that could probably be extended on a team friendly deal with performance incentives. While I understand your logic if the Jets are picking #1 or definitely going quarterback teams know they don’t have to give up much at all. Tampa could probably have Darnold right now for a 5th round pick. I don’t see any scenarios where multiple teams are bidding for a backup quarterback who is completely shell shocked. Darnold has some value on draft stock and possible unlocked talent, not at a 2nd round pick value though. It only takes one Bill O’Brien has proven that, I just don’t see it likely Edited October 19, 2020 by Rc2catch
NobesBLO13 Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 6 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: You might be kidding but honestly it’s a good plan. Maybe it was the plan the whole time?! Hire Gase, proven track record of being someone who can run off players and make your team bottom out. Get Lawerence or trade the pick for probably the biggest return in the history of the league. Haha no I wasn’t kidding. And no I didn’t mean it was the plan the whole time. Chris Johnson doesn’t have that kind of forethought. He got fooled by Peyton Manning into hiring Gase. The hierarchy of the Jets is interesting...both coach and GM are equals who both answer to owner directly. Coach recommended GM for the job. GM at this point has to know coach is not the guy but coach got him the job. Watching the players and coach, they mostly all showing up for the pay check. Players laughing on the sidelines while Miami shuts you out is all you need to know. From the top down they are going through the motions until the draft. The Jets also never pay good money for HCs and just hope for lighting in a bottle with an upstart or....Gase. The big tuna was the only time they went for it. So getting Lawrence is no guarantee they are good to go.
Kwai San Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Playoffs? said: Would be hilarious if Lawrence refused to play for the Jets. THIS would be awesome and a HUGE kick in the teeth - but really - who would blame him other than desperate Jests fans........
Buffalo Junction Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Rc2catch said: While I understand your logic if the Jets are picking #1 or definitely going quarterback teams know they don’t have to give up much at all. Tampa could probably have Darnold right now for a 5th round pick. I don’t see any scenarios where multiple teams are bidding for a backup quarterback who is completely shell shocked. Darnold has some value on draft stock and possible unlocked talent, not at a 2nd round pick value though. It only takes one Bill O’Brien has proven that, I just don’t see it likely May not be. This an agree to disagree moment. 1 1
Rc2catch Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Lol wut Hahahaha world class service from jersey as usual
Rc2catch Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 @YoloinOhio asleep at the wheel? Markus Golden just traded from the giants to cards??
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