And the 2024 Race Begins

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

No Labels won’t run a third-party campaign
after trying to recruit a centrist presidential candidate

Associated Press News, by Steve Peoples & Jonathan J. Cooper

 

The No Labels group said Thursday it will not field a presidential candidate in November after strategists for the bipartisan organization failed to attract a high-profile centrist willing to seize on the widespread dissatisfaction with President Joe Biden and Donald Trump. “No Labels has always said we would only offer our ballot line to a ticket if we could identify candidates with a credible path to winning the White House,” Nancy Jacobson, the group’s CEO, said in a statement sent out to allies. “No such candidates emerged, so the responsible course of action is for us to stand down.”

 

https://apnews.com/article/no-labels-2024-third-party-biden-trump-c7477857e1dd05535326b8850f4500a1

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

Democrats should be jittery about Pennsylvania voter registration trends

BySalena Zito

 

HOOVERSVILLE, Pennsylvania — If you are a longtime resident of Pennsylvania, it still is a bit of a jolt to the senses to drive through what was once coal country and see an oversized, cheery, red billboard sitting along U.S. 30 reading “VOTE REPUBLICAN.”

 

However, it is a reminder of how much the people who live in these old industrial and coal-rich counties have shed the local Democratic politics of their upbringing. Voter registration numbers, as we shall see, show as much.

 

Important to note: These voters have not changed personally, but their parties have done so. Democrats have abandoned their working-class voters for college-educated elites who rarely call the middle of somewhere home.

 

Officials in both parties in Washington — whether they are lawmakers on Capitol Hill or strategists working for one of the alphabet soup campaign arms of the House, Senate, or state legislatures, or a staffer for any of them — often struggle with how to appeal to these citizens.

 

Democrats did appeal to them well for so long … until they didn’t. It was an erosion that wasn’t all that easily detected because what didn’t move in a significant way was the voter registration numbers. Part of why voters who left the Democratic Party did not change their voter registration had to do with local elections and the state’s closed primary system.

 

Because Republicans had been in the wilderness for so long in local mayoral and county row office races — Democrats had held control of these seats since the rise of the New Deal Democrat coalition — people held on to their Democrat registration because most races were decided in primaries because only Democrats ran.

And then something changed, or actually a couple of things changed.

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2954573/democrats-should-be-jittery-about-pennsylvania-voter-registration-trends/

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

[Tommy Callahan]

 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

Democrats should be jittery about Pennsylvania voter registration trends

BySalena Zito

 

HOOVERSVILLE, Pennsylvania — If you are a longtime resident of Pennsylvania, it still is a bit of a jolt to the senses to drive through what was once coal country and see an oversized, cheery, red billboard sitting along U.S. 30 reading “VOTE REPUBLICAN.”

 

However, it is a reminder of how much the people who live in these old industrial and coal-rich counties have shed the local Democratic politics of their upbringing. Voter registration numbers, as we shall see, show as much.

 

Important to note: These voters have not changed personally, but their parties have done so. Democrats have abandoned their working-class voters for college-educated elites who rarely call the middle of somewhere home.

 

Officials in both parties in Washington — whether they are lawmakers on Capitol Hill or strategists working for one of the alphabet soup campaign arms of the House, Senate, or state legislatures, or a staffer for any of them — often struggle with how to appeal to these citizens.

 

Democrats did appeal to them well for so long … until they didn’t. It was an erosion that wasn’t all that easily detected because what didn’t move in a significant way was the voter registration numbers. Part of why voters who left the Democratic Party did not change their voter registration had to do with local elections and the state’s closed primary system.

 

Because Republicans had been in the wilderness for so long in local mayoral and county row office races — Democrats had held control of these seats since the rise of the New Deal Democrat coalition — people held on to their Democrat registration because most races were decided in primaries because only Democrats ran.

And then something changed, or actually a couple of things changed.

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2954573/democrats-should-be-jittery-about-pennsylvania-voter-registration-trends/

 

 

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The hard facts: this is a part of the country - the Pennsyltucky region - that time and economic change has left behind.

 

Coal fields exist within Somerset County. The coal is entirely bituminous, and much of it has been mined or is being mined by Strip mining. Most of the coal is within the Main Bituminous Field, which stretched north and west to adjacent counties and southward into Maryland and West Virginia. The rest is within the Georges Creek Field.[15]

There are many abandoned mines in the county, and acid mine drainage is an environmental problem in many areas. Fishless streams exist as a result of the discharge from the abandoned mines. These include parts of the Casselman River, Shade Creek, Stonycreek River, and Quemahoning Creek, as well as many of their tributaries.

 

The bituminous coal there is largely played out or is no longer in demand in the modern economy. It is not coming back, not even if the anti-coal/pro-renewable focus of the government changes. One party seems to be offering false hope, whereas the other is the realist.

 

This, by the way, is the exact opposite of where the parties stood in the age of Reagan. Reagan's economist and Republican think tanks saw what was coming and they wanted to issue a kind of "relocation payments" to these communities - an incentive to move to where the jobs are now being created. That should have happened, but politicians (Dems back then) didn't want to lose their base of voters. So back then the Dems pretended that these communities could come back strong. It was a political lie. Now the tables are turned and the new (Trump) Republicans sells them the same lie. Of course their political allegiances have changed because the party willing to pander to them has changed.

[Tommy Callahan]

5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

The hard facts: this is a part of the country - the Pennsyltucky region - that time and economic change has left behind.

 

Coal fields exist within Somerset County. The coal is entirely bituminous, and much of it has been mined or is being mined by Strip mining. Most of the coal is within the Main Bituminous Field, which stretched north and west to adjacent counties and southward into Maryland and West Virginia. The rest is within the Georges Creek Field.[15]

There are many abandoned mines in the county, and acid mine drainage is an environmental problem in many areas. Fishless streams exist as a result of the discharge from the abandoned mines. These include parts of the Casselman River, Shade Creek, Stonycreek River, and Quemahoning Creek, as well as many of their tributaries.

 

The bituminous coal there is largely played out or is no longer in demand in the modern economy. It is not coming back, not even if the anti-coal/pro-renewable focus of the government changes. One party seems to be offering false hope, whereas the other is the realist.

 

This, by the way, is the exact opposite of where the parties stood in the age of Reagan. Reagan's economist and Republican think tanks saw what was coming and they wanted to issue a kind of "relocation payments" to these communities - an incentive to move to where the jobs are now being created. That should have happened, but politicians (Dems back then) didn't want to lose their base of voters. So back then the Dems pretended that these communities could come back strong. It was a political lie. Now the tables are turned and the new (Trump) Republicans sells them the same lie. Of course their political allegiances have changed because the party willing to pander to them has changed.

Pennsylvania is the nation's second-largest natural gas producer after Texas, with natural gas output in the state totaling 7.5 trillion cubic feet in 2022.

 

Most of our energy comes from Natural gas and is rising.

 

Electricity in the U.S. - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

 

All of Sumerset county falls in the Marcellus Shale field.

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

On 4/1/2024 at 8:47 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Who Will Vote for a Walking Corpse?

STEPHEN GREEN

 

 

 

Social media was briefly abuzz last month about Presidentish Joe Biden's boat-anchor shoes, the ones meant to help keep him from falling. But the shoes aren't what really weigh him down — it's voter expectations that he won't survive a second term.

 

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2024/04/01/who-will-vote-for-a-walking-corpse-n4927812

 

 

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Short answer: 81 million Americans.

Which is about 7 million more than will vote for a golf-cart riding fully embalmed in orange corpse.

[Tommy Callahan]

15 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Short answer: 81 million Americans.

Which is about 7 million more than will vote for a golf-cart riding fully embalmed in orange corpse.

you think 81 million again, when people feeling the Biden agenda?

 

that's going to take one heck of a mail in/ballot harvesting machine to get that done this time.

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

4 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

that's going to take one heck of a mail in/ballot harvesting machine to get that done this time

I'm working on it.

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I'm working on it.

You might want to brush up on your basic math skills first.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 5 by Tommy Callahan

[B-Man]

 

 

                                 

 

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

From Politico:

 

 

WELL, BIDEN’S REALLY OLD. YOUNG PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING. OLDER PEOPLE ARE MOSTLY DOING OKAY ECONOMICALLY. SO IS IT REALLY A MYSTERY IF THIS IS HAPPENING? 

 

The polls are suggesting a huge shift in the electorate. Are they right? 

 

“Polls show former President Donald Trump is ascendant with the youngest bloc of the electorate, even leading President Joe Biden in some surveys, as less-engaged young voters spurn Biden.

 

Meanwhile, Biden is stronger with seniors than he was four years ago, even as his personal image is significantly diminished since he was elected last time.”

 

https://news.yahoo.com/age-inversion-rocking-2024-election-110000502.html?

 

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[SCBills]

We could’ve had a proper country

 

Will forever be frustrated that DeSantis couldn’t get his Florida message out due to the presence of Trump.  
 

All he does is common sense stuff that benefits his citizens, with a conservative lean on social issues where the majority of Americans agree with him which allows him grace on an issue like the heartbeat ban with his citizens .. while

also being one of the strongest environmentalist politicians on either side of the aisle. 

 

 

Edited April 9 by SCBills

[B-Man]

 

 

Makes good sense.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trump Wants More Debates, but Perhaps Not for the Reason You’re Thinking

MATT MARGOLIS 

 

The Trump campaign is pressing for additional 2024 presidential debates, saying they should happen "much earlier" than the initial timetable proposed by the Commission on Presidential Debates.  

 

Fox News Digital obtained an exclusive letter that reveals that Trump's co-campaign managers, Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita, addressed the Commission on Presidential Debates co-chairs, Frank Fahrenkopf Jr. and Antonia Hernandez, on Thursday.  

 

"While the Commission on Presidential Debates has already announced three presidential debates and a vice-presidential debate to occur later this year, we are in favor of these debates beginning much earlier," they explained.

 

It stands to reason that the Trump campaign sees Biden as a frail old man with diminished cognitive health, and that's why he wants more debates much earlier. But the reason they are calling for a change in the debate schedule is actually objectively practical.

 

"Specific to the Commission's proposed 2024 calendar, it simply comes too late," they wrote. "By the date of the first proposed debate, September 16, 2024, over 1 million Americans will have likely voted. By the date of the second proposed debate, October 1, 2024, the number of Americans who will have likely cast a ballot will be over 3 million, an increase of 225%." 

 

They estimate that by the third proposed debate on October 9, barely a month before the election, "approximately 8.7 million Americans will have already voted." 

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/04/11/trump-wants-more-debates-but-perhaps-not-for-the-reason-youre-thinking-n4928095

 

 

 

Of course, I think that the chances that Biden's handlers allow him to debate is zero.

 

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[Tiberius]

Trump is toast. Not only is Biden doing a good job, but Trump is hemorrhaging support because he is nuts, a traitor and has no principles aside from supporting his personal interests 

[Gregg]

56 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump is toast. Not only is Biden doing a good job, but Trump is hemorrhaging support because he is nuts, a traitor and has no principles aside from supporting his personal interests 

 

If you mean by destroying America, then he is doing a great job. Worst President ever. AINEC

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

"While the Commission on Presidential Debates has already announced three presidential debates and a vice-presidential debate to occur later this year, we are in favor of these debates beginning much earlier," they explained.

What is this "Commission on Presidential Debates" they wish to comply with (and even advance)?

 

Surely it is not this one that the REPUBLICAN PARTY officially withdraw participation in?

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-party-withdraws-us-commission-presidential-debates-2022-04-14/#:~:text=Republican Party withdraws from U.S. commission on presidential debates,-By David Morgan&text=WASHINGTON%2C April 14 (Reuters),and refused to enact reforms

 

The RNC's action requires Republican candidates to agree in writing to appear only in primary and general election debates sanctioned by the [Republican National] committee.

The nonprofit commission, founded in 1987 to codify the debates as a permanent part of presidential elections, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

It was unclear what format future RNC-backed debates would take or whether they would take place as often as in recent decades.

The move, which followed months of wrangling between the RNC and the commission, will potentially deprive voters of seeing Republican and Democratic candidates on the same stage.

 

Oh.