Big Tech/Social Media Censorship. Musk/X Files Lawsuit Against Censorship Syndicate GARM

[ChiGoose]

Just now, Chris farley said:

Its just amazing how bad of a take that article and thinking the headline matched it, is.

 

Just like Talabi making him cut away right in the middle of the interview. 

 

There is reality, then the modern lefts version of it. 

 

 

“The errors that Hasan highlights matter a lot. A key one is Taibbi’s claim that the Election Integrity Partnership flagged 22 million tweets for Twitter to take down in partnership with the government. This is flat out wrong. The EIP, which was focused on studying election interference, flagged less than 3,000 tweets for Twitter to review (2,890 to be exact).”

”Okay, you say, but STILL, if the government is flagging even 2,890 tweets, that’s still a problem! And it would be if it was the government flagging those tweets. But it’s not. As the report details, all of the tickets in the system were created by non-government entities, mainly from the EIP members themselves (Stanford, University of Washington, Graphika, and Digital Forensics Lab).”

 

”Hasan notes that Taibbi falsely turned the non-profit Center for Internet Security (CIS) into the government agency the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA). Taibbi did this by assuming that when someone at Twitter noted information came from CIS, they must have meant CISA, and therefore he appended the A in brackets as if he was correcting a typo”

 

“

regarding the small number of tweets that EIP did report to Twitter… it never suggested what Twitter should do about them, and Twitter left the vast majority of them up. The entire purpose of the EIP program, as laid out in everything that the EIP team has made clear from before, during, and after the election, was just to be another set of eyes looking out for emerging trends and documenting how information flows. In the rare cases (again less than 1%) where things looked especially problematic (phishing attempts, impersonation) they might alert the company, but made no effort to tell Twitter how to handle them. And, as the report itself makes clear, Twitter left up the vast majority of them:

We find, overall, that platforms took action on 35% of URLs that we reported to them. 21% of URLs were labeled, 13% were removed, and 1% were soft blocked. No action was taken on 65%. TikTok had the highest action rate: actioning (in their case, their only action was removing) 64% of URLs that the EIP reported to their team.)”

“Twitter removed significantly less than 13% of the tweets that EIP flagged for them. So not only is it not 22 million tweets, it’s that EIP flagged less than 3,000 tweets, and Twitter ignored most of them and removed probably less than 10% of them.”

“the posts that the Biden campaign (note: not the government) flagged to Twitter were of Hunter Biden’s dick pics, not anything political (we’ve discussed this point before) and Taibbi stammers some more and claims that “the ordinary person can’t just call up Twitter and have something taken off Twitter. If you put something nasty about me on Twitter, I can’t just call up Twitter…”

Except… that’s wrong. In multiple ways. First off, it’s not just “something nasty.” It’s literally non-consensual nude photos. Second, actually, given Taibbi’s close relationship with Twitter these days, uh, yeah, he almost certainly could just call them up. But, most importantly, the claim about “the ordinary” person not being able to have non-consensual nude images taken off the site? That’s wrong.

You can. There’s a form for it right here. ”

“When you look through the details, correcting Taibbi’s many errors, and putting it in context, you see that it was an academic operation to study information flows, who sent the more blatant issues they came across to Twitter with no suggestion that they do anything about them, and the vast majority of which Twitter ignored. In some minority of cases, Twitter applied its own speech to add more context to some of the tweets, and in a very small number of cases, where it found phishing attempts or people impersonating election officials (clear terms of service violations, and potentially actual crimes), it removed them.

There remains no there there. It’s less than a Potemkin village. There isn’t even a façade. This is the Emperor’s New Clothes for a modern era. Taibbi is pointing to a naked emperor and insisting that he’s clothed in all sorts of royal finery, whereas anyone who actually looks at the emperor sees he’s naked.”

[SCBills]

The modern left:

 

Ha! We’ve got Taibbi now … look at these minor errors that he acknowledged and corrected.  
 

also..
 

Pay no attention to the legit reporting, that we can’t refute, re: dangerous abuses of power, because that abuse came from our side. 
 

 

 

Edited April 7, 2023 by SCBills

[Tommy Callahan]

27 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

“The errors that Hasan highlights matter a lot. A key one is Taibbi’s claim that the Election Integrity Partnership flagged 22 million tweets for Twitter to take down in partnership with the government. This is flat out wrong. The EIP, which was focused on studying election interference, flagged less than 3,000 tweets for Twitter to review (2,890 to be exact).”

”Okay, you say, but STILL, if the government is flagging even 2,890 tweets, that’s still a problem! And it would be if it was the government flagging those tweets. But it’s not. As the report details, all of the tickets in the system were created by non-government entities, mainly from the EIP members themselves (Stanford, University of Washington, Graphika, and Digital Forensics Lab).”

 

”Hasan notes that Taibbi falsely turned the non-profit Center for Internet Security (CIS) into the government agency the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA). Taibbi did this by assuming that when someone at Twitter noted information came from CIS, they must have meant CISA, and therefore he appended the A in brackets as if he was correcting a typo”

 

“

regarding the small number of tweets that EIP did report to Twitter… it never suggested what Twitter should do about them, and Twitter left the vast majority of them up. The entire purpose of the EIP program, as laid out in everything that the EIP team has made clear from before, during, and after the election, was just to be another set of eyes looking out for emerging trends and documenting how information flows. In the rare cases (again less than 1%) where things looked especially problematic (phishing attempts, impersonation) they might alert the company, but made no effort to tell Twitter how to handle them. And, as the report itself makes clear, Twitter left up the vast majority of them:

We find, overall, that platforms took action on 35% of URLs that we reported to them. 21% of URLs were labeled, 13% were removed, and 1% were soft blocked. No action was taken on 65%. TikTok had the highest action rate: actioning (in their case, their only action was removing) 64% of URLs that the EIP reported to their team.)”

“Twitter removed significantly less than 13% of the tweets that EIP flagged for them. So not only is it not 22 million tweets, it’s that EIP flagged less than 3,000 tweets, and Twitter ignored most of them and removed probably less than 10% of them.”

“the posts that the Biden campaign (note: not the government) flagged to Twitter were of Hunter Biden’s dick pics, not anything political (we’ve discussed this point before) and Taibbi stammers some more and claims that “the ordinary person can’t just call up Twitter and have something taken off Twitter. If you put something nasty about me on Twitter, I can’t just call up Twitter…”

Except… that’s wrong. In multiple ways. First off, it’s not just “something nasty.” It’s literally non-consensual nude photos. Second, actually, given Taibbi’s close relationship with Twitter these days, uh, yeah, he almost certainly could just call them up. But, most importantly, the claim about “the ordinary” person not being able to have non-consensual nude images taken off the site? That’s wrong.

You can. There’s a form for it right here. ”

“When you look through the details, correcting Taibbi’s many errors, and putting it in context, you see that it was an academic operation to study information flows, who sent the more blatant issues they came across to Twitter with no suggestion that they do anything about them, and the vast majority of which Twitter ignored. In some minority of cases, Twitter applied its own speech to add more context to some of the tweets, and in a very small number of cases, where it found phishing attempts or people impersonating election officials (clear terms of service violations, and potentially actual crimes), it removed them.

There remains no there there. It’s less than a Potemkin village. There isn’t even a façade. This is the Emperor’s New Clothes for a modern era. Taibbi is pointing to a naked emperor and insisting that he’s clothed in all sorts of royal finery, whereas anyone who actually looks at the emperor sees he’s naked.”

I can also cut and paste from the biased article. 

 

And.

11 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

The Snowden affair showed us that the other social media offerings have a back door for the government. Tik Tok does not and that's the only reason why they want to ban it. The rest is all just BS

 

Tik Tok employs 7,000 Americans by the way, not to mention all the supporting business they bring to their American content creators. Banning it would be some bullsh*t

 

 

 

I hear a lot of younger folks say exactly the same thing.

 

are you saying that the government does censor social media sites?  like the Talabi files show?

 

 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

of course the government tries to censor social media. I dont know what the talabi files are

 

 

The topic of the entire thread?  according to those docs, they did censor social media.

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

breaking news LOL .

 

welcome to America, JFK was shot, the government tries to censor social media, and we landed on the moon 

LMAO, but yet you are on a thread where the ones you're agreeing with, say that didn't happen. 

 

Im sorry, its funny.

 

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Of course our government agencies work in concert with private companies to consistently violate the 1st ammendment!

 

@SUNY_amherst you're not a commie. No, not at all!

[Tommy Callahan]

8 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

Say what now? This thread is 120 pages long, these are my first posts on the matter. How do you know what people I agree with or dont agree with?  you are a weird dude

 

 

I can read.  

 

and thanks

 

normal is boring as hell

 

[Buffarukus]

1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

The Snowden affair showed us that the other social media offerings have a back door for the government. Tik Tok does not and that's the only reason why they want to ban it. The rest is all just BS

 

Tik Tok employs 7,000 Americans by the way, not to mention all the supporting business they bring to their American content creators. Banning it would be some bullsh*t

 

 

 

we get it. you want us to follow you on the platform.  

1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

I love capitalism. Banning Tik Tok would be a move reminiscent of communism

 

what was the unilateral shut down of parler and its servers then based on lies? seemed alot of leftist cheering for communism...as long as they don't like it.

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

I love capitalism. Banning Tik Tok would be a move reminiscent of communism

Banning Tik Toc would be a backdoor precident for The State to ban other sites they deem  "dangerous" in the future.

[Buffarukus]

55 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Banning Tik Toc would be a backdoor precident for The State to ban other sites they deem  "dangerous" in the future.

 

so if the taliban put out a recruitment app would it be the same. the issue is a adversary having the ability to data collect and promote propaganda. seeing the sheer amount of american media china censors or does not allow they seem to do what they want

 

again what was the banning of parler and shutdown of its servers under false pretenses made by the gov? same? different? how?

1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

I think parler just sucked so it didn't survive on its own. They need users to survive

 

you need to read into it. it was a state sponsored shutdown based on jan 6th lies. im sure many who dont know or care about tik tock will think the same.

[B-Man]

 

 

The Left pushing for a more totalitarian government.

 

 

Glenn Greenwald exposes 'sickening' mainstream media pushing Biden admin to 'monitor' on social media/chats

 

We used to joke about the media being the government’s lapdog … those jokes aren’t funny anymore.

 

 

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/04/14/glenn-greenwald-drags-sickening-media-for-pushing-biden-admin-to-more-closely-monitor-social-media/

[B-Man]

 

[BillsFanNC]

Commies doing commie things.

 

Shocking!

[All_Pro_Bills]

20 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

The Left pushing for a more totalitarian government.

 

 

Glenn Greenwald exposes 'sickening' mainstream media pushing Biden admin to 'monitor' on social media/chats

 

We used to joke about the media being the government’s lapdog … those jokes aren’t funny anymore.

 

 

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/04/14/glenn-greenwald-drags-sickening-media-for-pushing-biden-admin-to-more-closely-monitor-social-media/

I'd argue that your position on government authority over censorship of ideas and opinions depends on whether you identify with being a citizen of the republic or a subject of the government.  Clearly, these representatives and officials in Washington are intent on treating you as a subject with privileges to be granted or taken away at their whim.  I'd say anyone voting for these folks is acting against their own self-interest and should immediately examine why they vote for and support such officials.

[BillsFanNC]

Just now, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'd argue that your position on government authority over censorship of ideas and opinions depends on whether you identify with being a citizen of the republic or a subject of the government.  Clearly, these representatives and officials in Washington are intent on treating you as a subject with privileges to be granted or taken away at their whim.  I'd say anyone voting for these folks is acting against their own self-interest and should immediately examine why they vote for and support such officials.

 

They are either commies or among those who support commies.

[All_Pro_Bills]

Just now, BillsFanNC said:

 

They are either commies or among those who support commies.

Absolutely.  But regardless of how loud and organized they are, they're also a very small group relative to the total population.  Crushing them would be child's play if the social consciousness level of their mischief was high enough but it isn't yet.  That's why they seek to disrupt the free communication of truth and ideas.  Like the Devil, deceit is their primary tool. 

[Boatdrinks]

4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Absolutely.  But regardless of how loud and organized they are, they're also a very small group relative to the total population.  Crushing them would be child's play if the social consciousness level of their mischief was high enough but it isn't yet.  That's why they seek to disrupt the free communication of truth and ideas.  Like the Devil, deceit is their primary tool. 

It’s a larger group than we realize , unfortunately. They have been “converted “ 

[B-Man]

 

 

Guess Who’s Behind the 51 Intel Officials Letter Dismissing Hunter Biden’s Laptop?

 

For the past couple of years, we’ve been led to believe that the letter from 51 national security officials was some sort of spontaneous, grassroots effort by the intelligence community to warn us about the potential foreign influence behind Hunter Biden’s laptop.

 

The laptop has since been confirmed to be legitimate, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence confirmed that there was no foreign disinformation campaign involved. But new information from House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan and congressional investigators, with the help of two Obama-era CIA officials, has revealed a new twist in the story.

 

The investigation has uncovered evidence linking the letter dismissing the Hunter Biden laptop as Russian disinformation during the 2020 election to Joe Biden’s presidential campaign.

 

The unsettling revelation of evidence linking the dismissal of the laptop to Joe Biden’s presidential campaign raises grave concerns about the suppression and censorship of crucial information by big tech and the mainstream media leading up to the 2020 election.

 

This could be one of the most significant instances of legitimate election interference in our nation’s history, with far-reaching implications that leave a dark cloud over the integrity of our democracy.

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/04/17/guess-whos-behind-the-51-intel-officials-letter-dismissing-hunter-bidens-laptop-n1687840

 

 

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[Doc]

4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Guess Who’s Behind the 51 Intel Officials Letter Dismissing Hunter Biden’s Laptop?

 

For the past couple of years, we’ve been led to believe that the letter from 51 national security officials was some sort of spontaneous, grassroots effort by the intelligence community to warn us about the potential foreign influence behind Hunter Biden’s laptop.

 

The laptop has since been confirmed to be legitimate, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence confirmed that there was no foreign disinformation campaign involved. But new information from House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan and congressional investigators, with the help of two Obama-era CIA officials, has revealed a new twist in the story.

 

The investigation has uncovered evidence linking the letter dismissing the Hunter Biden laptop as Russian disinformation during the 2020 election to Joe Biden’s presidential campaign.

 

The unsettling revelation of evidence linking the dismissal of the laptop to Joe Biden’s presidential campaign raises grave concerns about the suppression and censorship of crucial information by big tech and the mainstream media leading up to the 2020 election.

 

This could be one of the most significant instances of legitimate election interference in our nation’s history, with far-reaching implications that leave a dark cloud over the integrity of our democracy.

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/04/17/guess-whos-behind-the-51-intel-officials-letter-dismissing-hunter-bidens-laptop-n1687840

 

Great.  Now do something with that information.

[BillsFanNC]

Commies doing commie things?

 

No. Way.