QB Bills Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 I'm one the first to say that blaming the refs is a cop out and is usually done by fans with blinders on but this is getting ridiculous now. How can the officials watch the replay on the illegal forward pass and not see that Tannehill was well past the line of scrimmage? That was the most egregious one. But there were a few others that were real head scratchers. The illegal shift, the phantom PI on Norman, the missed facemask on Singletary. The one that really irked me was the offside call on Epenesa on 3rd and 7. I don't understand how refs call that play dead and penalize the Bills 5 yards when teams are constantly jumping into the neutral zone on Allen's hard counts and allowed to reset. It's not like a Tennessee lineman even did that stupid pointing out thing. I've noticed it a few times now. Maybe I just don't understand the rule, but why is it than when the Bills jump, it's immediately blown dead and they get penalized but when the opposition does it, there's no stoppage? 5 1
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) It’s been ridiculous for years and the people with the blinders on are the ones that have been defending the refs. There was an obvious face mask we got away with so it did go both ways. 20 minutes ago, QB Bills said: I'm one the first to say that blaming the refs is a cop out and is usually done by fans with blinders on but this is getting ridiculous now. How can the officials watch the replay on the illegal forward pass and not see that Tannehill was well past the line of scrimmage? That was the most egregious one. But there were a few others that were real head scratchers. The illegal shift, the phantom PI on Norman, the missed facemask on Singletary. The one that really irked me was the offside call on Epenesa on 3rd and 7. I don't understand how refs call that play dead and penalize the Bills 5 yards when teams are constantly jumping into the neutral zone on Allen's hard counts and allowed to reset. It's not like a Tennessee lineman even did that stupid pointing out thing. I've noticed it a few times now. Maybe I just don't understand the rule, but why is it than when the Bills jump, it's immediately blown dead and they get penalized but when the opposition does it, there's no stoppage? Because for whatever reason the OL doesn’t put their hand out and touch them. WRs too. We do all these hard counts but don’t react when they jump. It’s maddening. Against Miami we were getting them to jump a lot even their corners but our guys just stood there. The time they do react Williams jumps up and takes a false start. Just stick your hand up, if they don’t get called for neutral zone infraction you just act like you’re calling out blocking assignments Edited October 14, 2020 by Not at the table Karlos 2
Nextmanup Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 The officiating in the NFL is horrible, but for the most part, it's the same for both teams. The refs aren't one of the top 10 reasons why we lost the game tonight. 6 2
Do The Reich Thing Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 It didn’t matter, but to not call that an illegal forward pass was absurd. He was a full yard beyond the line of scrimmage at minimum. The PI on Norman was awful as Brown slipped and the roughing the passer was awful as well. He made that damn call from the opposite side of the field on the sideline. The refs are over managing games right now. It happens in every single game. They need to have common sense and stop overthinking every damn call. Still... despite all this the Bills would’ve lost. Too many mistakes tonight and the defense played like dog sh*t 2
Freddie's Dead Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) A number of years back, I took the time to go back and analyze the game to create the Zebra Report. I called them as I seed them, with bad calls both ways, what we got away with, when we were screwed, and when we got a gift. After a full season of Bills games, I came to the conclusion that the refereeing in the NFL was universally abysmal. Bad calls, bad technique, never fixed. I stopped doing it because ultimately, it was a waste of time. If anything, the quality of the reffing has deteriorated even further. They won't even overrule clear errors with replay. Tannehill was a least a yard past the LOS, but only one replay showed the blue line for the LOS. Subsequent replays mysteriously erased the LOS highlighting, so it made it look way closer than it was. We were not helped by the LJ abandoning his post and running to the EZ (bad technique). We all saw the brutal calls on Josh's first "INT"*, and SmokeY's "non-touchdown"* and again, replay refused to overturn them. Bottom line, NFL refs suck, and we can only hope to avoid them. Edited October 14, 2020 by Freddie's Dead 1
Doc Brown Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 I learned tonight you can throw the ball two yards beyond the line of scrimmage so that should come in handy for any quarterback that thought it was illegal. The refs weren't to blame for tonight's loss but it would be nice if most of the calls didn't seem to favor the opponent for once. 2
uticaclub Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 There’s games where a call here or there makes a difference, this was not one of those games 1
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: A number of years back, I took the time to go back and analyze the game to create the Zebra Report. I called them as I seed them, with bad calls both ways, what we got away with, when we were screwed, and when we got a gift. After a full season of Bills games, I came to the conclusion that the refereeing in the NFL was universally abysmal. Bad calls, bad technique, never fixed. I stopped doing it because ultimately, it was a waste of time. If anything, the quality of the reffing has deteriorated even further. They won't even overrule clear errors with replay. Tannehill was a least a yard past the LOS, but only one replay showed the blue line for the LOS. Subsequent replays mysteriously erased the LOS highlighting, so it made it look way closer than it was. We were not helped by the LJ abandoning his post and running to the EZ (bad technique). We all saw the brutal calls on Josh's first "INT"*, and SmokeY's "non-touchdown"* and again, replay refused to overturn them. Bottom line, NFL refs suck, and we can only hope to avoid them. The blue line is slightly off but still looks like he was past LOS
Freddie's Dead Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: The blue line is slightly off but still looks like he was past LOS See the LJ on the goal line? He's supposed to stay at the LOS, but he abandoned his responsibility. Bad technique. 1
Success Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 The Norman PI really bothered me. It didn't really exist. And it didn't even out tonight. But, the nation was fairly upset at the PI that extended our GW drive in the Rams game. So, there's that. 1
Thurman#1 Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Do The Reich Thing said: It didn’t matter, but to not call that an illegal forward pass was absurd. He was a full yard beyond the line of scrimmage at minimum. The PI on Norman was awful as Brown slipped and the roughing the passer was awful as well. He made that damn call from the opposite side of the field on the sideline. The refs are over managing games right now. It happens in every single game. They need to have common sense and stop overthinking every damn call. Still... despite all this the Bills would’ve lost. Too many mistakes tonight and the defense played like dog sh*t I thought he was over the line, but it wasn't anywhere near a full yard. It was a matter of inches. The announcer mis-spoke, saying the LOS was the 8. It wasn't. It was about three inches short of the 7. As I say, I thought it was a penalty, and that it should've been reversed, but it was very close. Bottom line for me was that we lost by a huge margin. The reffing was pretty much beside the point. The Bills performed far far worse than the refs did. The whole team played crappy. At least the defense had three starters out, two of whom are among the three most important players. Edited October 14, 2020 by Thurman#1 1
Buddo Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 Officiating generally is abysmal. It has been for years. Until the NFL change their approach, and make the Zebras full time, it’s not going to change. I reserve my right to complain about particular decisions, but largel y confine myself to the most outrageous ones. Zebras were bad again last night, but we were worse. Apart from our first TD drive, we made mistake after mistake, and tbh I’m being relatively kind about that, as it meant there was still a game, and hope.
Jerome007 Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 The illegal shift one got me steaming. It cost a TD! Sure they got it back so it didn't affect the game, but...how can they call that? Diggs was still going sideways, he didn't have to reset.
LabattBlue Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 It was a guarantee after the first loss that the “refs suck” threads would pop up. 😂 1 1
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: The blue line is slightly off but still looks like he was past LOS This is a good shot of why they let the play stand. The blue line was off by a good amount, the real line of scrimmage was the 7 yard line. Tannehill's back foot was close enough to the 7 when he released I can see why they let the play stand. Side note: the broadcast and announcers were both atrocious last night. How many times do we need to see a kick off from the kickers view? How many key plays didn't get a replay? How many times are the announcers going to say "The Titans are heroes for playing so well after two weeks of not practicing" Let's ignore the video proof that they broke NFL protocol to hold in person meetings/mini practices? 1
clayboy54 Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 Look. Every week the NFL has an agenda. The officials execute that agenda on the field (and in NY on replays.) This is not a secret, but like everything else, we prefer to think the game is always going to be fair and square. Instead its a play for money. Whether its the sportsbooks, fantasy, TV ratings, merchandise sales, or something else. While it had little to do with the end result, Tuesday's play was to show the audience that victory over Covid is possible. They got it done. 2 1
DrDawkinstein Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 Forward laterals are always legal in Tennessee. That's nothing new. 1 1 1 1
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Forward laterals are always legal in Tennessee. That's nothing new. Unless you’re Marcus Mariota
OrtonHearsaWho Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 One call...er, non call...that started things getting away from us was on the long punt return. A blocker - right next to the returner - had a handful of jersey for a not insignificant amount of time . 1
Ralonzo Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, OrtonHearsaWho said: One call...er, non call...that started things getting away from us was on the long punt return. A blocker - right next to the returner - had a handful of jersey for a not insignificant amount of time . That was infuriating. Taiwan Jones was the gunner, it was in space, and the Titan damn near tore his jersey off after holding for 3-4 seconds. You can hardly be more obvious than that. If you're not seeing it as a ref it's because you don't want to see it.
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