Raiders DT who played 35 snaps vs Bills placed on Reserve/COVID list

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Thank god, I was going to bring my toothbrush

 

I don't think that would be very comfortable...

[Putin]

2 hours ago, Process said:

Well, ****

 

 

💩 

[BuffBillsForLife]

Welp

[machine gun kelly]

34 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Do they use the same camera for the one that goes up your bing hole and which do they do first?

Ktulu, if it helps I worked in a medical device company for years for upper and lower GI conditions we did ablation etc., and the upper endoscopy as the other stated does go in through the throat into the areas mentioned, and a colonoscopy Is similar, but the other way as you can imagine.  I’ve observed or supported 1000’s of them and there several different shapes, lengths and widths scopes that search these areas.  If you’ve hit 50, you should have had one.

 

Its actually not a big deal as they give you the night night sleep milk (propofol), amd when you wake up you don’t even notice anything. No discomfort, no problems at all.  Before I was in GI, I never realized what a no big deal it is to get an upper or lower.

[WideNine]

Jeez... so contact-tracing a defensive lineman who test positive the day after a game.

 

So he was locked up with this guy, gang tackled that guy, was yelling in the grill of that guy.... 35 snaps worth....then jawing on the sideline with those guys.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

4 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Ktulu, if it helps I worked in a medical device company for years for upper and lower GI conditions we did ablation etc., and the upper endoscopy as the other stated does go in through the throat into the areas mentioned, and a colonoscopy Is similar, but the other way as you can imagine.  I’ve observed or supported 1000’s of them and there several different shapes, lengths and widths scopes that search these areas.  If you’ve hit 50, you should have had one.

 

Its actually not a big deal as they give you the night night sleep milk (propofol), amd when you wake up you don’t even notice anything. No discomfort, no problems at all.  Before I was in GI, I never realized what a no big deal it is to get an upper or lower.

I guess I have reached that age where both are required. I have been having some issues with lower abdominal pain so at least they will discover the issue.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Then with that if they did test on Sunday. (Not sure every team did and the reporting is like they didn’t test him on game day). Then I think we very well are in the clear here 

 

To my understanding, the current NFL testing protocol excludes game-day testing out of concern about a false positive that might falsely exclude a player.

They may have adopted a special protocol for NE-KC but not league-wide yet (to my understanding)

 

[Edit: the latter is correct, special protocol for teams with "outbreaks" or exposed to outbreak teams.  See YOLO post below.]

 

 

[ALLEN1QB]

I seen Allen and other players get face to face with other players after the play how careless is that. I cringe every time they do it.

[Don Dokken]

Notwithstanding the impact on the Bills — Hurst is the guy who fell in the draft because of a heart condition, right? Hopefully, if he does have it, he recovers without any issue

[billsfanmiamioh]

26 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I guess I have reached that age where both are required. I have been having some issues with lower abdominal pain so at least they will discover the issue.

I’ve had the upper done and it was no big deal. They ended up giving me some more of the good stuff because apparently I kinda started stirring during the procedure. I didn’t think I was that loopy after on the way home but I kinda zoned out for what I thought was 30 seconds but was really 30 minutes. Good stuff! 

[BillsCuse]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

 

No, it's more than likely from today.

 

Either way, doesn't change the reality that the precedent says nothing will come out of this. 

Actually the test is from yesterday.  It takes a day to get the results - thats why they dont test on game day.

[YoloinOhio]

34 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

To my understanding, the current NFL testing protocol excludes game-day testing out of concern about a false positive that might falsely exclude a player.

They may have adopted a special protocol for NE-KC but not league-wide yet (to my understanding)

 

 

Day of game testing was added last week for any team with an outbreak or exposed to an outbreak 

 

 

Edited October 7, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[BillnutinHouston]

3 hours ago, whatdrought said:

Quick! Everyone panic! 

 

Done.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

28 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Day of game testing was added last week for any team with an outbreak or exposed to an outbreak 

 

 

 

Thanks for the info @YoloinOhio

 

Ugh for the message

Did they define "outbreak" anywhere?

 

I can see several areas where this would constitute a "sucks to be Us" scenario for a team that has been careful, but that has to play a team like the Raiders that broke the rules or the Titans that have an outbreak.  Like, um, Our Bills.

 

It would totally suck if the NFL decided Vegas is having an outbreak, the Bills are tested on Sunday am, and someone gets excluded from the game.

 

The Titans have 10 players on the covid-19 reserve list, are they gonna get tested on Sunday even if they don't have another player test positive Tues-Sat?

 

[BillnutinHouston]

3 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

Not worried.  He was tested before game and was negative. 

 

Oh my goodness.

[PirateHookerMD]

2 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

Endoscopy is the throat I believe.  @PirateHookerMD might know for sure. 

 

Endoscopy is a generic term used to describe the act of using a flexible high definition scope/camera to look inside you. There are many different endoscopic procedures, the most common in my world are EGD and Colonoscopy. Pulmonologists (lung doctors) do bronchoscopy, ENT does laryngoscopy, etc. All of these are types of endoscopy. 

 

EGD is sometimes called "upper" endoscopy, and technically is an esophagogastroduodenscopy. This is a fancy way of saying we make you sleepy, go through the mouth,  and look at your esophagus, stomach and duodenum (first part of your small intestine). 

 

"Lower" endoscopy is colonoscopy. While the prep is not the best, colonoscopy saves lives and the procedure itself is not a big deal. If you are due for colon cancer screening just get it done

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Ugh. 

Did they define "outbreak" anywhere?

 

I can see several areas where this would constitute a "sucks to be Us" scenario for a team that has been careful, but that has to play a team like the Raiders that broke the rules or the Titans that have an outbreak.  Like, um, Our Bills.

 

It would totally suck if the NFL decided Vegas is having an outbreak, the Bills are tested on Sunday am, and someone gets excluded from the game.

 

The Titans have 10 players on the covid-19 reserve list, are they gonna get tested on Sunday even if they don't have another player test positive Tues-Sat?

Good questions. I do find it interesting that the Vikes facility was shut down last Tuesday until all of their players tested negative. I don’t think they went back until Thursday.  That didn’t happen with the Bills today , even though the timing of the tests were the same. Could be the proximity tracing didn’t warrant it. We will see if anything impacts the Bills tomorrow from this. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This is the "Oakley Face Shield" by the way.  I don't think the players hold it in high esteem.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Good questions. I do find it interesting that the Vikes facility was shut down last Tuesday until all of their players tested negative. I don’t think they went back until Thursday.  That didn’t happen with the Bills today , even though the timing of the tests were the same. Could be the proximity tracing didn’t warrant it. We will see if anything impacts the Bills tomorrow from this. 

 

It may have had to do with the number of players testing positive?

 

Timeline

Thurs 9/24: Titans had a PS player who had been in their facility test positive Thurs 9/24, 3 days after testing negative and signing.

Saturday 9/26 Titans had a coach test positive on Saturday 9/26 and he didn't travel with the team, but the Titans didn't reveal the positive test until....

Monday 9/28 Titans announce positive test of their OLB coach/de-facto DC

Tuesday 9/29 Titans announce that 8 personnel (3 players in different units, 5 coaches) have tested positive

Vikes and Titans facilities are closed etc etc.

 

So I think closing the facility is a function of the number of positive players (8 is clearly "an outbreak").  The Raiders are where the Titans were last Thursday - one player testing positive.

 

Will it stay at one, as a couple of other teams with a single player testing positive have done?

Will the NFL decide the Raiders are an "outbreak team" and test all the Raiders on Sunday?  Will they test all the Bills?

 

From reading the memo, it appears a league doctor, Dr Sills, in consultation with unnamed outside "medical experts", will be making the call.

 

 

 

 

 

[thronethinker]

All Bills were tested today too, yet none tested positive.