YoloinOhio Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) He hasn’t played RT all season, so makes sense but if Williams were to get injured it looks like Nseckhe and Ford would not go back there What will be interesting is if he moves back to RG while Winters is hurt and Feliciano still out, and Spain back to LG. I think Spain played RG on Sunday when winters went out? Edited October 6, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1
thenorthremembers Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: He hasn’t played RT all season, so makes sense but if Williams were to get injured it looks like Nseckhe and Ford would not go back there I am happy they made the move. I think it was obvious he had a higher ceiling at Guard the entire time. What concerns me, is both the right tackle and right guard they want to keep in when healthy are free agents at the end of the year. 2
YoloinOhio Posted October 6, 2020 Author Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I am happy they made the move. I think it was obvious he had a higher ceiling at Guard the entire time. What concerns me, is both the right tackle and right guard they want to keep in when healthy are free agents at the end of the year. They seem to really like both and I can see them re-signing mongo, not sure he would be cost prohibitive. Williams is a different story. He might really get some cash on the open market if he stays healthy, at age 29. I think they could draft an OT. 2
JMF2006 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I am happy they made the move. I think it was obvious he had a higher ceiling at Guard the entire time. What concerns me, is both the right tackle and right guard they want to keep in when healthy are free agents at the end of the year. Not concerned at all about RG and RT after this year. If they perform they get extended if they don't our GM with a track record of finding decent players at a decent price will get the void filled. 3
thenorthremembers Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, JMF2006 said: Not concerned at all about RG and RT after this year. If they perform they get extended if they don't our GM with a track record of finding decent players at a decent price will get the void filled. The problem is you are likely playing with a lower cap next year, it may stay static or plunge as low as 180 million. Tackles are costly, and so far Williams has earned it. I trust Beane to make good decisions, but a lot of tough choices to make when Mongo, Williams, and Milano are all free agents.
JMF2006 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He hasn’t played RT all season, so makes sense but if Williams were to get injured it looks like Nseckhe and Ford would not go back there What will be interesting is if he moves back to RG while Winters is hurt and Feliciano still out, and Spain back to LG. I think Spain played RG on Sunday when winters went out? I think he stays at LG to develop chemistry with Shnowman and Morse locking that part of the line for the next 3 years or more. The right side is a work in progress. 2
thenorthremembers Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: They seem to really like both and I can see them re-signing mongo, not sure he would be cost prohibitive. Williams is a different story. He might really get some cash on the open market if he stays healthy, at age 29. I think they could draft an OT. If you shed Spain's contract you can get Mongo. Not sure why they made the choice to re-up Spain but they did, so it is what it is. Some decent right tackle options in the draft like you said, so that may be the right way to go about it. 1
JMF2006 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: The problem is you are likely playing with a lower cap next year, it may stay static or plunge as low as 180 million. Tackles are costly, and so far Williams has earned it. I trust Beane to make good decisions, but a lot of tough choices to make when Mongo, Williams, and Milano are all free agents. Lots of draft picks to find player and they are cap friendly. Beane is pretty good at getting talent there.
JMF2006 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: If you shed Spain's contract you can get Mongo. Not sure why they made the choice to re-up Spain but they did, so it is what it is. Some decent right tackle options in the draft like you said, so that may be the right way to go about it. If they keep him(Spain) one more year through 2021 releasing him as a pre June 1st cut would only cost 500,000 cap hit and save 4.75m https://overthecap.com/player/quinton-spain/4612/ Edited October 6, 2020 by JMF2006
machine gun kelly Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 He played Guard through High School, ranked 20th nationwide as a recruit, and college so it was inevitable they move him to Guard. It’s a much different position as you take several steps as a Tackle, but you’re first step matters as a Guard as those defenders are in you’re face. It’s a very different position. I’m glad and hope he is a locked up Guard for us for the next decade. 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: I am happy they made the move. I think it was obvious he had a higher ceiling at Guard the entire time. What concerns me, is both the right tackle and right guard they want to keep in when healthy are free agents at the end of the year. draft a tackle and sign a guard... imo also what’s with McDermott giving a definitive answer. I’d expect, more of his magic 8 ball stuff like .... it’s going to depend on situations, I’ll need to see the film, it will vary week to week based on match ups... Edited October 6, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1
Coach Tuesday Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Better become a really good guard to justify that high pick. 2
YoloinOhio Posted October 6, 2020 Author Posted October 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: draft a tackle and sign a guard... imo also what’s with McDermott giving a definitive answer. I’d expect, more of his magic 8 ball stuff like .... it’s going to depend on situations, I’ll need to see the film, it will vary week to week based on match ups... Just like he said, it would be detrimental to his development and the team to keep moving him. so wouldn’t sound appropriate to act like that was a possibility. 1
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: Why move him at the end of the day ?? It is what it is. Not for nothing.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I am happy they made the move. I think it was obvious he had a higher ceiling at Guard the entire time. What concerns me, is both the right tackle and right guard they want to keep in when healthy are free agents at the end of the year. Minor concern. Look how easily they signed both of them plus others in the past two years that have been much more than salvageable. They could resign one or even both for a relatively cheap contract, if not find the next similar guy on the FA market and probably should draft one in the 2nd or 3rd round. There is always a number of Felicinao type's every year that hit free agency. The Bills i.e. Beane seem to know where to find them better than most.
BuffaloBillies Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: Why move him at the end of the day ?? For the Thurs, Sun, Mon Night games? Hmmm
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 He has a long way to go, he is such a big human being but doesn't appear to seek and destroy. He doesn't get a lot of push in the running game either and is kind of slow exploding out of his stance. He definitely looks like a RT playing guard.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Just like he said, it would be detrimental to his development and the team to keep moving him. so wouldn’t sound appropriate to act like that was a possibility. but now “they” know... Edited October 6, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood
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