snafu Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, SectionC3 said: Are you talking about the time you quoted Irish law to me on the abortion issue? Not at all. Not everything is about you. Did I? Can you find that? If I did, it wasn't intentional. And even so, it may have been buttressing a larger point I was making (like in the post you just quoted). But you probably couldn't figure that out (like your post just now). As you like to say: carry on.
SectionC3 Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, snafu said: Not at all. Not everything is about you. Did I? Can you find that? If I did, it wasn't intentional. And even so, it may have been buttressing a larger point I was making (like in the post you just quoted). But you probably couldn't figure that out (like your post just now). As you like to say: carry on. So, bottom line, no. Just wondering if that was one of the instances in which you were trying to “correct” someone else’s misunderstanding. Carry on.
snafu Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, SectionC3 said: So, bottom line, no. Just wondering if that was one of the instances in which you were trying to “correct” someone else’s misunderstanding. Carry on. Yeah, I got your point. You're still mistaken.
Magox Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: all this veiled trolling, we know what you did. I bet
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) ...at the end of the day, this is a PRIVATE site launched by SDS......it's by approved membership only, no right, privilege or waving the "1st Amendment Flag".......HE sets the rules and changes them at his whim, although he does PROPOSE changes and solicits input.....if he solely bans someone or if it is a SDS/MOD consensus, so be it......if you like the PPP forum, you're free to stay or go.....if you want to help SDS defray the costs of HIS site, you can voluntarily donate (I did).....at the end of the day, what's the debate?.....HIS COC governs and is subject to change period....justification is not required IMO... Edited October 6, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy
TBBills Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) PPP forum is to keep right wing nutbags out of the regular forum. Edited October 6, 2020 by TBBills 2
shoshin Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Edit:. I now see where you two are going back and forth in the other thread. I didn't see all of that before. I haven't seen it all yet I'm sure. I just saw one post before I typed the above. If TYTT is advocating "hurting" SDS by boycott and/or word on the street it's not something I'd do or advocate but TYTT can do what he wants as it is his right. I'm not a fan of posting it on the very site he wants to hurt but that is up to SDS to allow or disallow. If the "hurt" has implied anything physical or beyond the "walls" of this site I think that is out of line. He advocated making it hurt not to TBD but he was addressing SDS by first name "personally"...to an audience of strangers. If he is advocating that 5 people leave, he knows that ain't gonna hurt anything. He was advocating something else, vaguely, to anonymous people on the internet. Whether it was inside the walls or outside "personally" to him, I have no idea. He had 3 chances to walk it back and didn't. That's ***** up and glad you agree. 13 minutes ago, Magox said: I bet Don't be a lowlife. I didn't report DR. Not once. Not ever. Edited October 6, 2020 by shoshin
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: shut up already. Isn’t there a covid thread off the wall you can participate in ? all this veiled trolling, we know what you did. ...easy there Big Dawg.......you're debating with the "Self Appointed New Sheriff/Janitor In Town" whose gonna clean up Dodge.......Sheriff Dillion is gone......see ya Matthew.... 1 1
Magox Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 The owner of the board obviously can do as he wish with this board. Just that the board is now overrun with fake and troll accounts that have done nothing to advance discussion. I'm not sure what happened but sometime over the past year these accounts have exploded and the volume of troll threads are ridiculous. Some of the people that have either been banned or have or are leaving PPP are quality posters. People who are able to thoughtfully articulate their positions, maybe some have gone overboard but their presence will be missed. Even though I often times disagreed with some of their views I enjoyed reading their posts. I cannot say the same for some of the people that remain. I never used the ignore function up until about 6 months ago, now I have about 10-15 users that I have placed on ignore. Wish DR had done the same. 4 2
US Egg Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, TBBills said: PPP forum is to keep right wing nutbags out of the regular forum. You're half right. Bet you're not use to being 50% right. Feels good don't it. Fridge worthy hanging grade no doubt. Edited October 6, 2020 by I am the egg man 1
TBBills Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: You're half right. Bet you're not use to being 50% right. Feels good don't it. Fridge worthy hanging grade no doubt. Nope usually I am right in the 80-90% So I am not used to it being so low... But you are republican so you are probably lying and I am actually 100% on what I said. Edited October 6, 2020 by TBBills 1
4merper4mer Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, shoshin said: He advocated making it hurt not to TBD but he was addressing SDS by first name "personally"...to an audience of strangers. If he is advocating that 5 people leave, he knows that ain't gonna hurt anything. He was advocating something else, vaguely, to anonymous people on the internet. Whether it was inside the walls or outside "personally" to him, I have no idea. He had 3 chances to walk it back and didn't. That's ***** up and glad you agree. Don't be a lowlife. I didn't report DR. Not once. Not ever. I didn't interpret it as physical harm when I first read it. I interpreted the "personal" as being a result of financial ramifications of site ownership and a result of some sort of boycott or similar. Although I would not participate in, advocate or encourage that, in fact I'd discourage it, I view that as his right to do. If it is harm outside the site, that is on a personal level, then I'm not sure you'd ask what I thought. Who could support that? Being honest, I read it as site related harm, which again I don't support, and I thought his explanation was pretty clear. He was saying hit him in the pocketbook which I find to be folly at best and vindictive at worst. I honestly can't see how you saw it as anything else and to me it looks like you were trying to twist his words and make something I found silly look like something sinister. Just being honest. 3 1
keepthefaith Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...at the end of the day, this is a PRIVATE site launched by SDS......it's by approved membership only, no right, privilege or waving the "1st Amendment Flag".......HE sets the rules and changes them at his whim, although he does PROPOSE changes and solicits input.....if he solely bans someone or if it is a SDS/MOD consensus, so be it......if you like the PPP forum, you're free to stay or go.....if you want to help SDS defray the costs of HIS site, you can voluntarily donate (I did).....at the end of the day, what's the debate?.....HIS COC governs and is subject to change period....justification is not required IMO... Can you point me to where donations are submitted? I poked around the site a bit and didn't find how/where to do that. 49 minutes ago, TBBills said: PPP forum is to keep right wing nutbags out of the regular forum. Seriously, can we define right wing? Is it a set of policies? What are they, give me the top 5 as you would define them. Edited October 6, 2020 by keepthefaith
TBBills Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Can you point me to where donations are submitted? I poked around the site a bit and didn't find how/where to do that. Seriously, can we define right wing? Is it a set of policies? What are they, give me the top 5 as you would define them. My top 5 would be DR, B-Man, 3rdnlong, Buffalo Gal, I don't have a 5th that comes to mind but will let you know.
meazza Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 28 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I didn't interpret it as physical harm when I first read it. I interpreted the "personal" as being a result of financial ramifications of site ownership and a result of some sort of boycott or similar. Although I would not participate in, advocate or encourage that, in fact I'd discourage it, I view that as his right to do. If it is harm outside the site, that is on a personal level, then I'm not sure you'd ask what I thought. Who could support that? Being honest, I read it as site related harm, which again I don't support, and I thought his explanation was pretty clear. He was saying hit him in the pocketbook which I find to be folly at best and vindictive at worst. I honestly can't see how you saw it as anything else and to me it looks like you were trying to twist his words and make something I found silly look like something sinister. Just being honest. How anyone can see it a anything but simply people boycotting the site shows the level of education from some posters. 3 2
keepthefaith Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, TBBills said: My top 5 would be DR, B-Man, 3rdnlong, Buffalo Gal, I don't have a 5th that comes to mind but will let you know. I wasn't looking for poster names but rather some definition of the far right.
shoshin Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: I didn't interpret it as physical harm when I first read it. I interpreted the "personal" as being a result of financial ramifications of site ownership and a result of some sort of boycott or similar. Although I would not participate in, advocate or encourage that, in fact I'd discourage it, I view that as his right to do. If it is harm outside the site, that is on a personal level, then I'm not sure you'd ask what I thought. Who could support that? Being honest, I read it as site related harm, which again I don't support, and I thought his explanation was pretty clear. He was saying hit him in the pocketbook which I find to be folly at best and vindictive at worst. I honestly can't see how you saw it as anything else and to me it looks like you were trying to twist his words and make something I found silly look like something sinister. Just being honest. "My understanding is that this decision was made by @SDS personally. He has made a decision that certain viewpoints are unwelcome on his board. Make this hurt for him." How besides doing something to the website could anyone make it hurt? If 10 conservative posters left, that would not register as a blip at TBD. This is the Internet. Several posters have gotten personal creepy crap from their interface with this place and Tasker's statement was about hurting SDS. He had 3 chances to walk it back or clarify responding to me. He didn't do it a single time. Edited October 6, 2020 by shoshin
Chef Jim Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, TBBills said: PPP forum is to keep right wing nutbags out of the regular forum. Then why are you here? Are you a right wing nutbag? 1
Magox Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, meazza said: How anyone can see it a anything but simply people boycotting the site shows the level of education from some posters. You’d have to have a skewed viewpoint to not interpret it as such. 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 6, 2020 Posted October 6, 2020 7 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: First, thanks to SDS for explaining what he did and why he did it. He doesn’t owe us an explanation, but I appreciate getting one. For me the key phrase: this is not 4chan for Bills fans. I realize I became a thorn in DR’s side. Let me explain why with a quick story. A few years ago I was sitting at a lunch table with an alumni group from my wife’s fancy college (I married up). Another guy at the table mentioned the Sandy Hook school massacre with the appropriate tone. A 70 year old guy next to me — a prominent donor — chimes in with, “you know that was all a hoax.” There was an uncomfortable moment. People like me tried to steer the conversation to more polite topics; I assumed my wife didn’t didn’t sign up for a conversation about conspiracy theories. One other guy, also a husband/not alum, had the guts to start questioning 70 year old: what do you mean it’s a hoax? What about those dead children carried out? Response: “Maybe actors.” It went on a few minutes like that, then people made polite excuses to leave and visit other tables, etc. Thank goodness the lunch had been served. Later on I ran into our confrontational spouse. Actually I sought him out. I had a chance to think about it. And I realized he was right and the rest of us were wrong. I thanked him for confronting our 70 year old conspiracy theorist. Sitting there and nervously laughing and changing the subject was silence in the face of a vile “theory.” And so when I came to PPP I posted about polls, then wandered into the “Q Analysis” swamp to see what this was all about. I asked simple questions. I researched what DR’s answers meant. I discovered that he was all in; unlike others here, he didn’t suggest that maybe there’s a kernel of truth amidst a cornfield of wild overinterpretation. No. He repeated memes and messages that are consistent only with what I’d call the Q libel — there is an evil cabal involved in child trafficking and killing; certain well known politicians and celebrities are involved; there’s more than a hint of anti-Semitic conspiracy; there’s a definite suggestion that in a war against satanic child sacrificer, the ends justify the means (hence the weird comment about the LA Sheriff’s Office history and badge in response to expressions of sympathy and outrage when two officers were shot). There’s an unhinged reaction to criticism of Trump — one that is consistent with a messianic view of him that comes from the hard Q core. I’d ask him exactly what he believes. At first he’d dodge (here’s a link to some wiki leak), then later he’d lash out (why would I answer an uncivil moron like you). But never did he answer the questions, things that went to core Q principles like: “was Donald Trump recruited by powers of good to bring down politicians like Hillary Clinton because she was involved with child trafficking?” No answer. Ever. Just comments dripping with implication. And no, I didn’t give up. I didn’t stop pressing him to explain his comments, many of which make no sense unless they are coming from the backdrop of an understanding that the whole QAnon mega conspiracy is true. I wasn’t going to make the mistake I made at that fancy luncheon again. If it got uncomfortable for him, that’s because it should be uncomfortable to spout this type of crap even in the impolite society of a fan forum. That’s all. I am returning to football talk with the occasional talk about polls here. Unless another Sandy Hook denier or Q conspiracists forces me to do otherwise ... Please don't do us any favors. 2
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