Allen has stopped running??? Any reason

[Kwai San]

Why would you want to "fix" something that doesn't need it?  Leave well enough alone.  4-0 not good enough?

[clearwater cadet]

thank god

[MarkyMannn]

He runs now to buy time while he looks down field to throw.  Not runs for the sake of running.  Russell Wilson does the same

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

This thread is legendary. We’ve gone from I hate him doing all this running, to why isn’t he running more instead of throwing the ball all over the place?

[Jerome007]

47 minutes ago, CBennett said:

Ever notice the 2X Allen really got "hurt" it was in the pocket? 

Like most running QBs. And of course all the statuesque slow moving ones ha ha

 

TBH when the Cheats nearly KOed him it was a run, and yesterday shoulder injury was in a scramble though not an actual run play.

 

Yesterday both QBs, but even more so for Josh, had all day to throw. AMAZING job on pass protection by the Bills Oline. One of those games he didn't need to run. But it's always there to be used. A nightmare for opposing defenses

 

I still cringe at his QB sneak at one yard line on FIRST DOWN after injuring his shoulder... Either the Bills coaches know it's not serious or that was dumb! 

 

12 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

This thread is legendary. We’ve gone from I hate him doing all this running, to why isn’t he running more instead of throwing the ball all over the place?

I love his runs. But I don't mind a game like yesterday either! Credit to the OLine.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

I like it. Pick your spots Joshua.

 

It's not just that though. Against the Jets we actually called his number several times. It seems more like the staff has asked him to dial it back with the runs. This is probably in part because Allen has now proven himself as an elite passer. So if the coaching staff knows he can lead us to wins with his arm alone then why have him out there running?

 

Personally, I think he needs to run at least a few time a game. Especially on those 2nd and 7 and 3rd and 7 downs that just break the back of the defense. Hopefully Allen is just saving those for later in the year and they are not being completely coached out of him. Let Josh be Josh.

[badassgixxer05]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

Raiders proved themselves to be nearly as dirty as the Jets.  I think it was a good decision in this game.

That 24, holyshit! After every play he was pushing/hitting/grabbing at someone. That guy should have been tossed from the game. Not to mention 99 spear dive at Allen while he was being tackled and ended up leading to injury. After he was stomping/swinging at morse on the ground a few plays before. Had me thinking what the hell is Gruden coaching over there!

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Allen passing the ball is a higher percentage play than Allen running the ball. This is a positive development. Both Allen and Daboll have realized this. Allen still thinks he's Superman though when plays breakdown. That's going to be tough to coach out of him. 

I don’t think they should try.  He is Superman.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

No I don't want him to be Lamar or Kyler, but not one run this week (QB sneak for TD notwithstanding), but wondering as to the reasoning.  

Seemed there were some opportunities and certainly understand being careful after the injury, however this too was evident in the LA game too.

 

1) Seems like he was moving the ball without it so why run and risk injury?

2) Maybe he had a heart-to-heart with his WRs after John Brown made his heartfelt comments in his media availability last week and they made him see he can really hurt the team if he's injured and goes out by running when he doesn't need to

3) Pending a chance at the all-22, it seems to me that Gruden's kind of strange defensive strategy was to keep Allen in the pocket and force him to beat them as a QB.  Allen shrugged and said "OK"

[DCofNC]

I would rather he focus on playing QB and IF needed, he can take off with it.  When the opening is there, go, but be the facilitator not the only playmaker as the primary option.  With all the guys he has out there, no need for him to be getting hammered on.  The WR core is at least 4 quality players deep and a couple of gadget/pure speed guys there too, so no need to make up that gap now.  Knox is an animal, also definitely looked more cautious yesterday w ball control, and DS, looked great yesterday.

[scribo]

It wasn't until yesterday did it really, really sink into my thick skull that we no longer need Josh to run it on every must-have third down. It is such great progress that our offense now forces any and every defense to play us honestly.

 

And, maybe in a game against KC or the Pats*, Allen will be able to actually surprise someone again when he snaps off an important 50-yard play with his legs.

[mjt328]

Brian Daboll is from the Belichick tree of coaching, and very much believes in switching up his attack dependent on the opponent.

This is the first year he's had the talent to pretty much do whatever he wants.

 

So far, we have only used our running backs sparingly.  And we really haven't needed a strong running game yet.

But I believe there will be a game soon, where the Bills go run-heavy.  They are just waiting for the right matchup.

 

Same with Josh Allen on designed runs.  One an opponent starts dropping their guard, Allen will start taking advantage.

[HOUSE]

Age is catching up to Josh Allen. At 23 the ol legs just cramp up....

[eSJayDee]

If he doesn't run, it should dramatically cut down on his fumbling, which is obviously a good thing.  On average, is an extra ~50 yds worth a turnover?  tough call, but prolly not.

[Warcodered]

I prefer Allen's ability to run as a threat than as a major part of the gameplan.

[NoSaint]

5 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

No I don't want him to be Lamar or Kyler, but not one run this week (QB sneak for TD notwithstanding), but wondering as to the reasoning.  

 

Seemed there were some opportunities and certainly understand being careful after the injury, however this too was evident in the LA game too.

I think this loops back to the more accurate early season thread of “why did he run so much” against the jets 

4 hours ago, Kwai San said:

Why would you want to "fix" something that doesn't need it?  Leave well enough alone.  4-0 not good enough?

this is always my least favorite take around winning fan bases. 
 

heaven forbid someone thinks the team is imperfect and wants to chat about opportunities. We should all just sit around all week cheerleading everything. 

[Kwai San]

9 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

this is always my least favorite take around winning fan bases. 
 

heaven forbid someone thinks the team is imperfect and wants to chat about opportunities. We should all just sit around all week cheerleading everything. 

 

OK - so you wanna RUN JA into the ground?  Sorry man - but that is no bueno in my book.  I'd rather have a healthy QB than a banged up one.  Admit it.....your heart almost went through your throat when you saw JA walking into the tunnel holding his arm.  I'll admit my response was too overly broad but I was discussing the topic at hand.  You wanna talk about how to improve the D?  The O-Line?  I'm all over that.  JA needing more running attempts?  Nope.

[Matt_In_NH]

That is what you want!  If he has to run to win fine run but if you can move the ball and win without running, that is much preferred.  That is an element of his game that is good to have but only use it when its really needed.

[BaaadThingsMan]

He will when they really need it and the defenses won't be expecting it as much 

[LABILLBACKER]

6 hours ago, BuffaloTX said:

Why run when you have the keys to this WR group?

Exactly....why run when you have Diggs, Brown, Beasley & Davis. He will always have it in his arsenal, but he no longer has to run 5 qb sweeps per game. Those days are over. But be afraid, be very afraid.  Josh can still run.