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1 hour ago, Blokestradamus said:

Smoking is bad for you.

I’m sure he is aware of this, let this grown ass man make his own decisions with his body.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Beast said:


Then why is the Patriots/Chiefs game postponed? 
 

Sorry you weren’t’ paying attention to that.


Because of the time of testing and the travel restrictions to that situation. Everyone but cam tested negative, if that happens again tomorrow they’re playing Monday.

 

The Titans are the exception to the rule. The falcons are how things are supposed to be: test, trace, isolate, play. 

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The most successful Sports League in history- woefully unprepared. Did they learn nada from the NBA/NHL experiment?

 

Waaaay more thinking and seclusion & isolation protocols were needed. The whole concept of dozens of “Home Teams” (without fans, thereby rendering them meaningless) was an absurdity to begin with!

 

Perhaps, teams should have been grouped into 4-6 bubbles, where all games  were played from Thursday - Monday. 

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With all the resources teams are using to prevent players/staff from getting covid, why not go the other direction and intentionally expose them and be done with it like with chickenpox?

 

I’m sure there’s plenty of reasons to not, I’m just spitballing. 

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I see a stoppage after this weeks games with a few weeks to quarantine and set up some sort of “bubble”.  Not sure how they can pull it off unless they use multiple stadiums and rotate teams thru.  Playing Thursday, Saturday 2 time slots (Would hurt college games), Sunday multiple time slots and Monday.  Be difficult as hell.

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10 minutes ago, whatdrought said:


Because of the time of testing and the travel restrictions to that situation. Everyone but cam tested negative, if that happens again tomorrow they’re playing Monday.

 

The Titans are the exception to the rule. The falcons are how things are supposed to be: test, trace, isolate, play. 


And, again, with what happened with the Patriots game, how can the Saints game be played today if a player tested positive yesterday?

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Sadly it might be the best way to keep players safe. But let’s be honest, a lot of  America hasn’t really cared too much about keeping people safe since this all started. 

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Just now, Beast said:


And, again, with what happened with the Patriots game, how can the Saints game be played today if a player tested positive yesterday?


Becuase the team has already traveled. The issue with the patriots game was traveling before knowing if there were more positive tests. The Saints accidentally traveled with a positive (which is an 73% expecting to be a false positive) and now they can fall back on the other procedures. 

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Just now, whatdrought said:


Becuase the team has already traveled. The issue with the patriots game was traveling before knowing if there were more positive tests. The Saints accidentally traveled with a positive (which is an 73% expecting to be a false positive) and now they can fall back on the other procedures. 


But, from what I understand, and I could be wrong here......is that sometimes you may not test positive for up to 48 hours after exposure. Could multiple players be taking the field that are carriers?

 

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Just now, Beast said:


But, from what I understand, and I could be wrong here......is that sometimes you may not test positive for up to 48 hours after exposure. Could multiple players be taking the field that are carriers?

 

Yes. In fact... You may not test positive for up to 5 days. It's a huge hole in the non-bubble protocol. Essentially, there is always risk, but if there is a positive in the team, it throws the whole thing into confusion and high concern.

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2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

I agree except the season being too long? 16 games for professional football is fine. College is 12 games. High school is 10. .

I disagree also on pausing it starting tomorrow as well. I think ya gotta play. They have those contract tracer bracelets, extended practice squad. The players age and physical shape give them way less than 1% chance to get seriously ill. 

It's the older coaches I'd be most worried about 

 

 

Yeah, the younger players have a lesser chance to get seriously ill.

 

 

 

Thought about the ones with pre-existing conditions, though? And as has been talked about at length, one of the pre-existing conditions is obesity and probably a majority of linemen meet that figure, and no there's no particular reason to think that very strong but obese people will do better than weak but obese people. It's possible. Equally, might be irrelevant.

 

Thought that these people have wives? Kids? Parents? Grand-parents and some maybe great-grandparents? Hairdressers, masseurs and masseuses, paper boys, grocery store cashiers and it just keeps on going and going.

 

It isn't OK to say that if a young person gets it (and very possibly spreads it) it's OK because he might not die.

 

I don't know what they should do, but I am absolutely positive that the argument that it's OK if they get COVID because they're young is a spectacularly bad one.

 

16 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

The most successful Sports League in history- woefully unprepared. Did they learn nada from the NBA/NHL experiment?

 

Waaaay more thinking and seclusion & isolation protocols were needed. The whole concept of dozens of “Home Teams” (without fans, thereby rendering them meaningless) was an absurdity to begin with!

 

Perhaps, teams should have been grouped into 4-6 bubbles, where all games  were played from Thursday - Monday. 

 

 

 

Probably true, but the Players Association fought bubbles. They probably shouldn't have, but they did. 

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1 hour ago, ColeB said:

 

With the Bills in Vegas, what are the chances they all behaved and stayed in their rooms?

Vegas is filled with nothing but riff raff right now.  Trash can on the street aren’t filled with trash.  They’re filled with people.  It’s disgusting 

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6 minutes ago, Beast said:


But, from what I understand, and I could be wrong here......is that sometimes you may not test positive for up to 48 hours after exposure. Could multiple players be taking the field that are carriers?

 


I really don’t know how it works in that regard...

going off what we’ve seen, if the players all test negative, they play. The biggest issue is knowing if they are negative with with enough time to make things happen. I could see the Saints game getting postponed, but I think at some point the league is going to have to look at two things: 

 

1- Transmission of this is a weird and unpredictable thing. People can share a bed and not get it but others can share a cab for ten minutes and get it. That being said, there’s only so much mitigation that can be done. 
 

2- the Vikings played a team that seemingly had several guys who would have been infectious... it didn’t hop to their team. That’s a really good sign, I think. 
 

My personal opinion is that they should treat a negative test from a player as a passport to play. Playing the “what if they were too close to this player who tested positive” feels like a rabbit hole. Short of a team wide outbreak, I think it’s possible to do things that way. 
 

 

( i also think they should make teams test Friday night and travel first thing Saturday morning) 

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The retest of the saints player that tested positive came back:  negativE.

 

 

It’s been my thought from the beginning that if the NFL didn’t have some sort of bubble, that the season will fall apart eventually.  I think they should play this weeks games and reassess.  
 

of all seasons for this to happen.......fml

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7 minutes ago, tomur67 said:

Let's face it.   We'd all be singing a different tune if Josh Allen tested positive for covid.  God, please don't let it happen.


I wouldn’t.  If Josh gets it, and let’s face it, he certainly could at some point... we play with Barkley for a week or two.   No special treatment.  
 

Bank wins to prepare for that.  

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