MrLocke Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 This will make them a better team. Itv is like many have said if the Chiefs can field an average D they will have a top flight team.
ch19079 Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 good info, but first it was a 4th rounder, then it was a 2nd AND a 4th rounder, now its a 2nd rounder..... ill just wait and see. ever notice they always call the traded player "disgruntled" .....
nodnarb Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 Fug the chiefs for being so stupid as to bail miami out of a horrid cap situation and by taking a guy that saban absolutely did NOT want on his team. In a draft FULL of good CB prospects. DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. Fuggin Chiefs.
dave mcbride Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 Fug the chiefs for being so stupid as to bail miami out of a horrid cap situation and by taking a guy that saban absolutely did NOT want on his team. In a draft FULL of good CB prospects. DUMB, DUMB, DUMB. Fuggin Chiefs. 312576[/snapback] brandon, what are you thinking?? surtain is a better than average cb who will give them up to 3 good years as a starter. that's more than you can say for most mid-round 2nd rounders. given how horrible their secondary has been, the chiefs need a guy who can actually play well, not a guy who might have the potential to play well a year or two from now. great move by the chiefs, i say, who are not in cap trouble.
MrLocke Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 Also Surtain is a far more certain commodity than the prospects in this draft.
nodnarb Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 brandon, what are you thinking?? surtain is a better than average cb who will give them up to 3 good years as a starter. that's more than you can say for most mid-round 2nd rounders. given how horrible their secondary has been, the chiefs need a guy who can actually play well, not a guy who might have the potential to play well a year or two from now. great move by the chiefs, i say, who are not in cap trouble. 312580[/snapback] it's not so much about surtain. It's about the fact that MIAMI WOULD HAVE BEEN FORCED TO RELEASE him by June 1st. And then the Chiefs could have picked him up without sacrificing a draft pick. There was NO WAY that saban was going to keep surtain.
dave mcbride Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 it's not so much about surtain. It's about the fact that MIAMI WOULD HAVE BEEN FORCED TO RELEASE him by June 1st. And then the Chiefs could have picked him up without sacrificing a draft pick. There was NO WAY that saban was going to keep surtain. 312586[/snapback] yeah, but 30 other teams could have signed him as well, and you can bet there would have been a lot of suitors because they wouldn't have had to inherit his miami contract. if that had happened, the chiefs' chances of obtaining him would have been less than even.
/dev/null Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 Chiefs 312537[/snapback] that's great. but who are the chefs? great googly moogly
Puhonix Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 good info, but first it was a 4th rounder, then it was a 2nd AND a 4th rounder, now its a 2nd rounder..... ill just wait and see. ever notice they always call the traded player "disgruntled" ..... 312565[/snapback] I think Surtain going for just a second would be a steal for KC. I hate to see him go. He easily could be worth a 1st rounder. My reasoning, well look at what the Giants gave up, for an unproven QB last year. Surtain is a proven player, not in a skill position, but still a proven player. If KC sends a 2nd and a 4th, I'll be much happier.
Puhonix Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 Fug the chiefs for being so stupid as to bail miami out of a horrid cap situation Fuggin Chiefs. 312576[/snapback] I'm pretty sure they're doing this to improve their defense, and not as a favor to the phins. Of course, if you're a Broncos fan, your saying "Fug the Phins for giving the Chiefs the CB they desperately needed" Hehe, all about perspective.
ROSCOE P. COE TRAIN Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 KCCs are desperate for warm defensive bodies. Surtain is average, IMO. i dont see how he can cover Lelie, Moss or McCardell.
Puhonix Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 KCCs are desperate for warm defensive bodies. Surtain is average, IMO. i dont see how he can cover Lelie, Moss or McCardell. 312638[/snapback] Hardly anyone can cover Moss (outside of Chicago anyway). But I think he'll do a good job taking McCardell and Lelie out of the game. He's not going to shut them down, that's obvious, but I think on average, he can hold them to under 100 yards a game.
Thailog80 Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 Fox Sports is reporting it's done deal....signed sealed and delivered.
Puhonix Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 Fox Sports is reporting it's done deal....signed sealed and delivered. 312662[/snapback] link?
Thailog80 Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 link? 312669[/snapback] Link Want me to read it to you also?
nodnarb Posted April 22, 2005 Posted April 22, 2005 The chiefs just became saban's beotch. WORST TRADE EVER. surtain is one of the most overrated CBs in the NFL. Only charles woodson is more overrated. Fuggin saban...I have a feeling that it won't take long for miami to become the most hated team again.
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