billsfan_34 Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) Nice to see Josh’s steady improvement in all areas. Our QB is in great company on the long ball. https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-s-top-10-deep-passers-russell-wilson-aaron-rodgers-among-best Edited September 30, 2020 by billsfan_34
LeGOATski Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 solid the Bills' deep ball connection has been noticeably better 1
Mr. WEO Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 Wilson is still insanely good. Mostly ignored. 2
billsfan_34 Posted September 30, 2020 Author Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 10:46 PM, Mr. WEO said: Wilson is still insanely good. Mostly ignored. Expand Many have noticed across sports media- throws a great arc On 9/30/2020 at 10:47 PM, BeerLeagueHockey said: Honestly, if Josh ends up the 8th best QB this year overall I'd be really happy. Expand Me too, but I think if his weapons stay healthy and he continues ascending, top 5 is possible. 4
Mr. WEO Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 10:48 PM, billsfan_34 said: Many have noticed across sports media- throws a great arc Me too, but I think if his weapons stay healthy and he continues ascending, top 5 is possible. Expand He's thrown 114 TDs against 24 INTs the past 51 games--with mostly trash O-lines. He's the best there is right now. Hands down. 4 1
billsfan_34 Posted September 30, 2020 Author Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 11:01 PM, Mr. WEO said: He's thrown 114 TDs against 24 INTs the past 51 games--with mostly trash O-lines. He's the best there is right now. Hands down. Expand Facts my friend 😊 On 9/30/2020 at 11:02 PM, Gene1973 said: I see the fake INT is hurting his ranking there. Expand Maybe he would of rose to 7 😜 1
The Wiz Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 11:01 PM, Mr. WEO said: He's thrown 114 TDs against 24 INTs the past 51 games--with mostly trash O-lines. He's the best there is right now. Hands down. Expand His PFF grade should be lower though because his receivers are usually 20 yards away from the nearest defender. 😉 1
BuffAlone Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 10:46 PM, Mr. WEO said: Wilson is still insanely good. Mostly ignored. Expand not ignored at all. He throws a beautiful ball. Always has
Mr. WEO Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 11:14 PM, BuffAlone said: not ignored at all. He throws a beautiful ball. Always has Expand I mean he's not often in the conversation nearly as much as he should be. In 2017, for instance, he scored 37 off his team's 38 TDs---and still didn't win the MVP. 3
gobills404 Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 His passer rating jumps up to 131.1 when you ignore the fake interception. I think he should be at 4th behind Wilson, Goff, and Bridgewater. Rodgers has no business being 2nd.
BuffAlone Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 11:17 PM, Mr. WEO said: I mean he's not often in the conversation nearly as much as he should be. In 2017, for instance, he scored 37 off his team's 38 TDs---and still didn't win the MVP. Expand MVP is more than scoring. Wilson is, nor has ever been, overlooked. He deserves more attention no doubt. But never overlooked
Mr. WEO Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 11:20 PM, BuffAlone said: MVP is more than scoring. Wilson is, nor has ever been, overlooked. He deserves more attention no doubt. But never overlooked Expand He was their entire offense. What is more valuable than that? When else has that happened? He was clearly overlooked for Brady that year. No serious argument could made otherwise. He has zero MVPs.
syhuang Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 I posted this in another thread. Allen's long ball is really improved not just from fans' eye-test but reflect in stats too (except PPF of course 😀 ) Also, 3
whatdrought Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) There seems to be a huge slant in this for TD’s (not to mention INT, so Josh is get dinged on that idiocy) which doesn’t really make sense to me... doesn’t the ability to throw the ball deep (as defined at 20+ yards) exist in a vacuum on the field? As in, how is the trait considered more difficult if it’s 20 yards into the endzone vs 20 yards from out of your own endzone... I get that there’s a practical value in “he can seal the deal from deep” but does that distinction quantify whose truly better at being a deep passer? Feels like volume/completion is the true test of this in which case Josh would seemingly be higher- and above Mahomes who has a sub 50% comp percentage with this metric. (Not to imply Allen is actually better than Mahomes, just as an understanding of these stats) In fact, the more I review this the less sure I am that their rankings make sense or are based on the actual data they present. Edited September 30, 2020 by whatdrought 3
BuffAlone Posted September 30, 2020 Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) On 9/30/2020 at 11:25 PM, Mr. WEO said: He was their entire offense. What is more valuable than that? When else has that happened? He was clearly overlooked for Brady that year. No serious argument could made otherwise. He has zero MVPs. Expand He definately deserves one/some. I'm clearly not saying otherwise. What I AM saying is that he's never been overlooked. And cannot be this year either He's always in the conversation. Deservedly so Edited September 30, 2020 by BuffAlone
Billsfan1972 Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 Reading things like this makes me realize, I just don't care, because how Josh through 3 games is only 8th is idiocy. Now the (non)int hurts & dropped him (and an incompletion too)..... And I guess those over 15 yards (but <20) don't count. Oh but a 20 yard pass where the receiver runs another 50 probably counts more then the 50 yard one caught in the endzone.... My head hurts. The eye test is much simpler. 2
ProcessAccepted Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 10:47 PM, BeerLeagueHockey said: Honestly, if Josh ends up the 8th best QB this year overall I'd be really happy. Expand If he does he won't be way up at #87 on the top 100 list
LABILLBACKER Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 11:19 PM, gobills404 said: His passer rating jumps up to 131.1 when you ignore the fake interception. I think he should be at 4th behind Wilson, Goff, and Bridgewater. Rodgers has no business being 2nd. Expand Explain to me how Mr Rodgers is 2nd with 39%. Is this a power ranking or specifically ranking deep accuracy?
MJS Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 10:46 PM, Mr. WEO said: Wilson is still insanely good. Mostly ignored. Expand Ignored by whom? He's the talk of the NFL right now. 1 2
NewEra Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) On 9/30/2020 at 11:20 PM, BuffAlone said: MVP is more than scoring. Wilson is, nor has ever been, overlooked. He deserves more attention no doubt. But never overlooked Expand He’s never received an MVP vote.....but never overlooked? How does that make sense? that is the definition of overlooked Edited October 1, 2020 by NewEra 1
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