YoloinOhio Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 I’m in love and he wears 14!! Thank you, Beane
Putin Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 4:31 PM, jeremy2020 said: Any logical person knew it was a great trade the moment it was made. I was thrilled when I heard about the trade and we all knew then what kind of a player we’re getting , what I didn’t know is how unselfish and good teammate and all around just a GREAT dude Stef really is ... my next jersey is definitely going to have # 14 on the back of it !!! 1
JerseyBills Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 3:42 PM, hondo in seattle said: Some cats overvalue picks. How many 1st round picks never become NFL stars? Diggs was a legit star. Proven at the NFL level. It was a great trade as we all know now. Also , we didn't have any glaring needs except WR , thanks to the great job of Beane, so we had the Luxury to grab Diggs for the picks because the roster is so well rounded
Alaska Darin Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 This interview says a lot about Diggs and how complete the cultural transformation is at OBD. Would Diggs be the same dude if the BILLS were 1-2 and not scoring/moving the football? No way. This guy wants to WIN. There are 2 plays so far that stick out (to me) that prove this: 1. The screen TD that Smoke scored against the Jets. Diggs ran about 30 yards across the field to throw the final block needed to finish the play. 2. The Kroft TD to beat the Rams. Diggs gave a really good depth answer in his interview about Kroft, his story, how bothered he was by the INT and it was REALLY obvious that Diggs was genuinely happy not only because we won the game but because Kroft was the guy who made the catch to do it. Diggs is everything you want in a WR. He's tough as nails, quick, hard working, a great route runner, and he cares about winning. This was a great trade for the BILLS. Brandon Beane has shown that he understands the draft and how to evaluate talent. If he thinks trading a first pick for an accomplished player is the right move, I guarantee he didn't make that decision lightly. I can only imagine how much more SD is going to like Buffalo when the place is jumping with excitement. 3 1
Don Otreply Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Diggs is the real deal, and was worth every pick and dollar, anyone who says otherwise is just not particularly intelligent. “He’s got Juice and can get off, likes watching others with juice getting off” , This use of language is proof that I am officially old as Hades...🤣 Edited October 2, 2020 by Don Otreply
DCofNC Posted October 2, 2020 Posted October 2, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 10:59 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Um, no? The reality of the situation is you don't seem willing or able to acknowledge that moving from #22 to #16 or #15 could not have been done for a 5th and 6th round pick and a 4th next year (with a 7th rd back in change). And you're tossing in salary differential, which wasn't part of your initial post. I'm outta here What part of overall value of a trade are you missing? The first round pick and the money are the key components to all of this. You want to get on Diggs nuts over 3 more catches than a rookie WR, but don’t want to acknowledge he is being paid 2x as much as is under contract for far less time? Interesting. Not surprised with the Homer attitude. VALUE is more than 1 thing. If you want to look at the draft value chart, the Bills gave up about 930 draft value points to get Diggs, to go to 16 to take Lamb they needed 1000. If that fourth rounder had been this years pick, you were already there, but you could have given up a 3rd round pick and that would have been it to go up. So to recap, the Bills essentially gave up the 18th pick for Diggs. So to sit in your ignorant high horse and act like it’s a clear cut great trade vs making virtually the same trade to go up for a guy you have under contract for half the money and double the time, is pretty silly. Why didn’t the Bills go for Ngakue? No VALUE in trading a second round pick AND paying 20M a year. The value of Diggs is a veteran presence, proven commodity at a reasonable contract vs his expected production, but in comparison to production, your whole argument is trash. 1
StHustle Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, DCofNC said: What part of overall value of a trade are you missing? The first round pick and the money are the key components to all of this. You want to get on Diggs nuts over 3 more catches than a rookie WR, but don’t want to acknowledge he is being paid 2x as much as is under contract for far less time? Interesting. Not surprised with the Homer attitude. VALUE is more than 1 thing. If you want to look at the draft value chart, the Bills gave up about 930 draft value points to get Diggs, to go to 16 to take Lamb they needed 1000. If that fourth rounder had been this years pick, you were already there, but you could have given up a 3rd round pick and that would have been it to go up. So to recap, the Bills essentially gave up the 18th pick for Diggs. So to sit in your ignorant high horse and act like it’s a clear cut great trade vs making virtually the same trade to go up for a guy you have under contract for half the money and double the time, is pretty silly. Why didn’t the Bills go for Ngakue? No VALUE in trading a second round pick AND paying 20M a year. The value of Diggs is a veteran presence, proven commodity at a reasonable contract vs his expected production, but in comparison to production, your whole argument is trash. You really think it's smarter to draft a rookie wide receiver with a super high ceiling than use the same draft capital to get a known commodity like Diggs? And your defense is because of the money? Did you learn anything from the Watkins debacle??? That type of thinking caused the draught to last as long as it did. Beane knows what he's doing. Edited October 3, 2020 by StHustle 1 1
Doc Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 23 hours ago, DCofNC said: What part of overall value of a trade are you missing? The first round pick and the money are the key components to all of this. You want to get on Diggs nuts over 3 more catches than a rookie WR, but don’t want to acknowledge he is being paid 2x as much as is under contract for far less time? Interesting. Not surprised with the Homer attitude. VALUE is more than 1 thing. If you want to look at the draft value chart, the Bills gave up about 930 draft value points to get Diggs, to go to 16 to take Lamb they needed 1000. If that fourth rounder had been this years pick, you were already there, but you could have given up a 3rd round pick and that would have been it to go up. So to recap, the Bills essentially gave up the 18th pick for Diggs. So to sit in your ignorant high horse and act like it’s a clear cut great trade vs making virtually the same trade to go up for a guy you have under contract for half the money and double the time, is pretty silly. Why didn’t the Bills go for Ngakue? No VALUE in trading a second round pick AND paying 20M a year. The value of Diggs is a veteran presence, proven commodity at a reasonable contract vs his expected production, but in comparison to production, your whole argument is trash. It wasn't 930 value points they gave up. The 4th next year equals a 5th this year. I did the math at the time and given the comp picks, the value ended up being not even enough to get to the 21st overall pick. The top-3 WRs were expected to go well before then, leaving WRs from the 2nd tier. As for Jefferson, he had a fine game last weekend. But it was just one game. It will be interesting to see how he does going forward. As for salary, sure you'd like to be paying everyone a rookie salary. But it doesn't mean much. They appear to have hit on Gabe Davis, if we're going the hindsight route. 1
NewEra Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 7:29 AM, DCofNC said: What part of overall value of a trade are you missing? The first round pick and the money are the key components to all of this. You want to get on Diggs nuts over 3 more catches than a rookie WR, but don’t want to acknowledge he is being paid 2x as much as is under contract for far less time? Interesting. Not surprised with the Homer attitude. VALUE is more than 1 thing. If you want to look at the draft value chart, the Bills gave up about 930 draft value points to get Diggs, to go to 16 to take Lamb they needed 1000. If that fourth rounder had been this years pick, you were already there, but you could have given up a 3rd round pick and that would have been it to go up. So to recap, the Bills essentially gave up the 18th pick for Diggs. So to sit in your ignorant high horse and act like it’s a clear cut great trade vs making virtually the same trade to go up for a guy you have under contract for half the money and double the time, is pretty silly. Why didn’t the Bills go for Ngakue? No VALUE in trading a second round pick AND paying 20M a year. The value of Diggs is a veteran presence, proven commodity at a reasonable contract vs his expected production, but in comparison to production, your whole argument is trash. the Bills are 3-0 with Diggs. the Vikings are 0-3 without Diggs. And you want to waste your time in order to argue about this with a fellow bills fan because he says it’s a great trade for the Bills? It IS a clear cut great trade for the Bills. Diggs IS exactly what our unproven QB needed to become great. What did Josh Allen achieve with Ceedee Lamb? Nothing. It’s pretend. It’s nonsense. Let’s talk about make believe Grab a joint and smoke it up my man. You should chill the * out.
Hebert19 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Posted October 5, 2020 That last catch was awesome. He plays so much bigger than he is. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 Diggs has brought an attitude to the Bills offense. Its another’s huge benefit of his acquisition. 2
MJS Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) On 10/2/2020 at 8:29 AM, DCofNC said: What part of overall value of a trade are you missing? The first round pick and the money are the key components to all of this. You want to get on Diggs nuts over 3 more catches than a rookie WR, but don’t want to acknowledge he is being paid 2x as much as is under contract for far less time? Interesting. Not surprised with the Homer attitude. VALUE is more than 1 thing. If you want to look at the draft value chart, the Bills gave up about 930 draft value points to get Diggs, to go to 16 to take Lamb they needed 1000. If that fourth rounder had been this years pick, you were already there, but you could have given up a 3rd round pick and that would have been it to go up. So to recap, the Bills essentially gave up the 18th pick for Diggs. So to sit in your ignorant high horse and act like it’s a clear cut great trade vs making virtually the same trade to go up for a guy you have under contract for half the money and double the time, is pretty silly. Why didn’t the Bills go for Ngakue? No VALUE in trading a second round pick AND paying 20M a year. The value of Diggs is a veteran presence, proven commodity at a reasonable contract vs his expected production, but in comparison to production, your whole argument is trash. I guess there is still someone on the planet who isn't praising the Bills for that trade. It has been an extremely successful trade. You can trade up for whatever receiver you want. None of them are as good as Diggs. Diggs is a proven number 1. All those rookies are just rookies, and some of them will be busts. And what are you taking about with contract length? Rookies are had for 4 years, 5 if you use the 5th year option. Diggs is under contract for 4 years. That's essentially the same length as a rookie contract. If you don't think the trade for Diggs is a clear win, you are just an idiot. Homerism has nothing to do with it. Everyone outside of the organization has been praising the trade. Edited October 5, 2020 by MJS 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 16 hours ago, Hebert19 said: That last catch was awesome. He plays so much bigger than he is. Diggs impact on the team goes way beyond his catches. I'm looking for it, but on Twitter someone put up a shot of Diggs on the sideline said to be after Allen went to the locker room. He went right up to Matt Barkley and was calmly talking to him gesturing and looking at the Surface together. It was clearly a "I'm here for you, we'll finish this thing together" message. Very poised, very matter of fact. The coach next to Barkley is nodding. I know Stefon Diggs has an "I" in his name, but there doesn't seem to be an "I" in his demeanor. Then there's the team's impact on Diggs. Pay close attention here to the aftermath of Diggs long reception. Two Raiders DB are yakking at Diggs (who probably started the yakking, Truth). The second one gets in Diggs face and shoves him, possibly trying to incite a personal foul. Brown gets right there in between Diggs and those players, pushing Diggs back and protecting his guy. 1
Warcodered Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Then there's the team's impact on Diggs. Pay close attention here to the aftermath of Diggs long reception. Two Raiders DB are yakking at Diggs (who probably started the yakking, Truth). The second one gets in Diggs face and shoves him, possibly trying to incite a personal foul. Brown gets right there in between Diggs and those players, pushing Diggs back and protecting his guy. Yeah that was the human torpedo Abram seems kind of like a crazy person.
NewEra Posted October 5, 2020 Posted October 5, 2020 I knew Diggs was a great WR. I didn’t know he was a top 5 WR in football. I’d take him over Michael Thomas. He’s a legit SUPER star.
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