Titans NOW 20 positive Covid tests and Impacts ] updated 10/3

[GreggTX]

I don't want this to spread to other teams (like us). I hope this didn't happen because someone was being irresponsible. I wonder if the league will investigate.

[Big C]

I don't like that there are new cases trickling in every day. That worries me a bit. But maybe if it gets worse they will just put in an extra bye week for the whole league and have that as a standing policy if this happens again.

[Realist]

I believe back when they were discussing even having a season, one of the scenarios was pushing back the playoffs to play any make up games needed. If Bills-Titans can't play next week, I would expect them to play in the new week 18. No way they have Titans forfeit the game.

[PromoTheRobot]

31 minutes ago, Real McNasty said:

They still easily can though?

 

 

 

They could postpone the playoffs by a week and have teams that need make up games play then.  Wow, how great would it be for the Bills to have a bye before the Chiefs game, who will have a short week.

[Real McClappy]

22 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

They could postpone the playoffs by a week and have teams that need make up games play then.  Wow, how great would it be for the Bills to have a bye before the Chiefs game, who will have a short week.

That's what I was thinking, even a couple weeks if this gets out of hand. We are talking basically 3 months out. 

 

A bye week to get healthy and GP against the Chiefs would be awesome. 

 

 

[TigerJ]

Heard on TV:  The Titans have two more players testing positive today.  With their bye week already being used up by the rescheduling of their game with Pittsburgh, it begs the question, what if the Titans keep having additional players test positive next week?  Will they have to forfeit to the Bills?

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

They could postpone the playoffs by a week and have teams that need make up games play then.  Wow, how great would it be for the Bills to have a bye before the Chiefs game, who will have a short week.

 

It would be less great though - if because of Tennessee - both the Bills and Titans had to play the week before the playoffs and everyone else got a bye.

 

If this is postponed (as it could be) - we get screwed in the end.

1 hour ago, Real McNasty said:

That's what I was thinking, even a couple weeks if this gets out of hand. We are talking basically 3 months out. 

 

A bye week to get healthy and GP against the Chiefs would be awesome. 

 

 

Might be good now, but long term would suck for the Bills.

[ndirish1978]

I'm a bit confused. Shouldn't everyone have tested positive at the same time? Does this mean the tests the NFL is using are unreliable?

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

I'm a bit confused. Shouldn't everyone have tested positive at the same time? Does this mean the tests the NFL is using are unreliable?

 

No, since it spreads from one player to another over time (days) based on contact, and not everyone all at once.

 

It's not like one person gathered the entire team around and sneezed on them.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

3 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

I'm a bit confused. Shouldn't everyone have tested positive at the same time? Does this mean the tests the NFL is using are unreliable?

no. Everyone is different and the incubation period will vary. 
 

[ndirish1978]

Thanks, I suppose my confusion stems more about tests and not incubation periods. I don't understand how effective a test is if it's not showing a positive during the incubation period. You could have a bunch of people test negative but still be contagious?

 

[for general questions about covid-19, testing etc please consult the resources at the top of the thread. No clinical test is perfect in practical use. -Hap]

 

Edit - Will do boss, didn't mean to push any boundaries, was just confused. I'll keep the medical stuff off this board, thanks.

Edited October 2, 2020 by ndirish1978

[The Wiz]

23 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

It would be less great though - if because of Tennessee - both the Bills and Titans had to play the week before the playoffs and everyone else got a bye.

 

If this is postponed (as it could be) - we get screwed in the end.

Might be good now, but long term would suck for the Bills.

Should be fine since we'll have the first round bye anyways

[Rochesterfan]

21 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

I'm a bit confused. Shouldn't everyone have tested positive at the same time? Does this mean the tests the NFL is using are unreliable?

 

No because they are spreading it internally and each person reacts differently depending on exposure limits and their immune ability.

 

The initial positive coach before testing positive - most likely spread it to one or two players/coaches.

 

Those guys then spread to a few more each and then because they were negative - were in contact with a few others and those guys are just coming up positive now.  It really tells me even though the coach says they followed protocol- I tend to think some people were lax.

 

The issue is we do not know for sure exactly when all of the transmission is occurring- late last week - on Sunday - on the various flights?  That is why the spotlight is on Minnesota because if it was prior to the game and the virus was spread to Minnesota- they should start showing up between Thursday and Sunday.

 

The biggest problem is people assume a negative means no COVID and that is not true.  Negative just means no COVID detected in that sample.  Sometimes it might be to early from exposure and the viral load in the person is to low.  Sometimes it is not a great sample and you miss the virus,  Sometimes it is a good collection and for this person the virus is growing deeper in the respiratory tract and therefore the virus is not present where you are testing.  People also become infective at different rates than testing positive.  Some are infective before testing positive and sometimes it is timing - testing in the am - become infective 4-6 hours later during meetings or work-outs.

 

Back to the football side.  It means since we are still seeing positives - it is not contained and the entire Tennessee team really needs 8-10 days of “isolation” and then if there are no positives they can begin to return to normal activities.  We will know more come this weekend on the entire situation.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Rochesterfan

[CEN-CAL17]

At some point the Titans organization should have to bite the bullet. Yeah it sucks, they are a solid team. But why should the whole league be punished if 1 teams continually tests positive.

 

We knew this was gonna happen. And could have happened to any team. If 1 games is affected, sure, get a fix in the schedule. But beyond that, when does someone say, sorry....

[Big Turk]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

They could postpone the playoffs by a week and have teams that need make up games play then.  Wow, how great would it be for the Bills to have a bye before the Chiefs game, who will have a short week.

 

But what happens if teams have multiple games to make up and they happen after their byes?

[CEN-CAL17]

They should isolate those who tested positive and not go to the facility... but I’d say by Tuesday. If no new cases, allow only those who test negative in the facility and they should be sequestered until after the Bills game.... meaning they sleep and stay there for the next 5 days, tested everyday.

Edited October 2, 2020 by CEN-CAL17

[WideNine]

Uncharted territory for the NFL... I would think if there are enough players on the Titans who have quarantined and not tested positive then the NFL may waive some rules around how many guys they can call up from reserves to fill out their roster, or they could go the forfeit route. If they are following NFLPA guidance then contact-tracing should not be that hard, but if they weren't...

 

Players and teams have to be smarter. I am still a bit PO'd at the Raiders and hope their stupidity is not literally contagious.

 

 

 

[Mango]

26 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

Thanks, I suppose my confusion stems more about tests and not incubation periods. I don't understand how effective a test is if it's not showing a positive during the incubation period. You could have a bunch of people test negative but still be contagious?

 

[for general questions about covid-19, testing etc please consult the resources at the top of the thread. No clinical test is perfect in practical use. -Hap]

 

I will bow out after this don’t want to derail and stay football specific. But this isn’t uncommon for any test for any illness. Even strep throat won’t test positive the same for everybody. HIV is an extreme example, which we have been testing for for decades. It takes a MINIMUM of 30 days or so to get a positive result for HIV. Even then, if you can push that time frame out an extra week or two, the better the test becomes. 
 

Just trying to provide color for other relatively common place tests. 
 

 

[mjt328]

27 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

At some point the Titans organization should have to bite the bullet. Yeah it sucks, they are a solid team. But why should the whole league be punished if 1 teams continually tests positive.

 

We knew this was gonna happen. And could have happened to any team. If 1 games is affected, sure, get a fix in the schedule. But beyond that, when does someone say, sorry....

 

If the Titans are forced to forfeit a game, it affects the entire NFL and the playoff picture.

I think the league is going to do everything in their power to avoid that.

 

My question is... at what point should they be forced to play the game with practice squad players and signings off the street?

 

 

[Rochesterfan]

3 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

 

If the Titans are forced to forfeit a game, it affects the entire NFL and the playoff picture.

I think the league is going to do everything in their power to avoid that.

 

My question is... at what point should they be forced to play the game with practice squad players and signings off the street?

 

 

 

PS players they can do, but remember with COVID - it is about 5 days before an off the street signing can get into the building.  So they can’t even supplement by signing guys without giving almost a week to just daily testing.