Malazan Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: What is he fine at doing? I know he is everyone darling with the way he came into the organization, but you have to look at his play recently. He is not an impact player. Bring footage of plays and explain why he has been bad or stop. If you need attention, there's better ways than this. 3
Mango Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I’m not sure I agree but the best evidence of where they think their needs are is who they scout - and by many accounts Kyle Dugger was their top choice in the draft. He’s more of a box safety, like Poyer. I do think that a rangy free safety to someday replace Hyde is a sneaky long-term need for this team but Hyde is far from the weakest link on that defense. Start with Horrible Harry there - his play yesterday matched his nickname. Maybe he’s not healthy yet. Butler was bad too and he doesn’t have an injury excuse that I know of... I agree with the sentiment but I think it is a little harsh. Defense across the league has been largely trash as of 3 weeks. I hope it gets better. But not to the point that we are back to hating our offensive production. - The safety tandem needs to be replaced at some point. but is not the worst part of the defense at the moment so I won't rally against them yet. I think it has been the LB to be honest. Edmunds is a physiological freak, and when he has the right feel for whats going on on game day, he is super impressive. When he doesn't, he is a bit of a mess. It does not feel like he has found a groove yet. His role in a McD D is super important so when that group is off it puts extra pressure on a DL missing Star, Phillips, Lawson. And magnifies that some issues at CB depth and/or an aging but quality safety tandem. - I never really got the Harry replaces KW rhetoric that started when he was drafted. I think he has been a solid depth/rotational guy. But I have not even really seen flashes of anywhere near a KW type player. I think his play has been meh to date. 1
Seasons1992 Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 The Bills win, and we're always looking for a negative.... I don't care if Mary Wilson herself plays safety; as longs the team wins, who cares. 1 1
BillzFreak Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 So we're 3-0, and I'm finding out on here that Ed Oliver is a bust, our middle linebacker is a bust, our number one corner isn't playing well and now hyde is bad. This board is great!!! 1 2
GreggTX Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 I'm not at all worried about Hyde. Let McDermott start calling the plays for the defense and there will be sudden and drastic improvement.
ProcessAccepted Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) Man I really dislike some of the malarkey that people put on this board. There should be criteria for starting a new thread other than wanted to start one. Edited September 28, 2020 by ProcessAccepted
ColoradoBills Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: When Hyde first came to Buffalo, he was excellent. Since that first season, there has been a pretty rapid decline. 2017: 13 Pass Defended, 5 Ints 2018: 5 Pass Defended, 2 Ints 2019: 2 Pass Defended, 1 Int 2020: 1 Pass Defended thus far. When you take a look at his last 15 games (including Houston game), he has one pass defended, that's it. He doesn't get sacks, and plays more of a FS role on this team. That is awful for a guy that is supposed to be roaming in the secondary. The only time I see Hyde on the field, is when he is making a tackle 15 yards down the field, or chasing a guy from behind. It seems like a wasted position to me. I would rather have a guy out there like Neal, who can cause havoc. You don't need to be worried about getting beat over the top when you are applying more pressure. Get this info to Beane ASAP. Hopefully it's not too late to bamboozle a team into trading a 2022 7th round pick for him before his trade capital tumbles.
nedboy7 Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) Well I guess these are the types of posts you get when the team is 3-0. I am just not used to them. Feels good. Edited September 28, 2020 by nedboy7
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: When Hyde first came to Buffalo, he was excellent. Since that first season, there has been a pretty rapid decline. 2017: 13 Pass Defended, 5 Ints 2018: 5 Pass Defended, 2 Ints 2019: 2 Pass Defended, 1 Int 2020: 1 Pass Defended thus far. When you take a look at his last 15 games (including Houston game), he has one pass defended, that's it. He doesn't get sacks, and plays more of a FS role on this team. That is awful for a guy that is supposed to be roaming in the secondary. The only time I see Hyde on the field, is when he is making a tackle 15 yards down the field, or chasing a guy from behind. It seems like a wasted position to me. I would rather have a guy out there like Neal, who can cause havoc. You don't need to be worried about getting beat over the top when you are applying more pressure. The last sentence here doesn't make a ton of sense... Do you remember anyone beating buffalo deep? And if you blitz all the time, teams will beat you over the top if you don't have the man corners required to run that type of scheme. Buffalo plays a ton of bail coverage and typically he's the deep safety in cover 3, or they will have like a hybrid cover 4 where he's again covering the deep man. The only time you're getting a PD/INT is if they chuck one up deep, and teams don't do that because he has some solid ball skills. Safeties in schemes that play a lot more cover 1 will typically get better numbers, but then you're isolating your CBs on an island, and you will give up deep balls - as well as get gashed by deep overs and rub routes. Buffalo doesn't have the corners to play that style, nor do i think that mcdermott wants to. 1 2
Shaw66 Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: I don't care if Mary Wilson herself plays safety; as longs the team wins, who cares. She's a little weak in the running game. 2
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 Safeties get interceptions from tipped passes, deflections, and bad throws from the QB generated by the pass rush. They are rarely asking him to cover a WR, TE, or RB in man coverage. The front 7 is the problem. Let's not overthink this. The front 7 couldn't stop the run and they didn't get to Goff without a blitz. 3 minutes ago, dneveu said: The last sentence here doesn't make a ton of sense... Do you remember anyone beating buffalo deep? And if you blitz all the time, teams will beat you over the top if you don't have the man corners required to run that type of scheme. Buffalo plays a ton of bail coverage and typically he's the deep safety in cover 3, or they will have like a hybrid cover 4 where he's again covering the deep man. The only time you're getting a PD/INT is if they chuck one up deep, and teams don't do that because he has some solid ball skills. Safeties in schemes that play a lot more cover 1 will typically get better numbers, but then you're isolating your CBs on an island, and you will give up deep balls - as well as get gashed by deep overs and rub routes. Buffalo doesn't have the corners to play that style, nor do i think that mcdermott wants to. Everything in this response is spot on!
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, dneveu said: The last sentence here doesn't make a ton of sense... Do you remember anyone beating buffalo deep? And if you blitz all the time, teams will beat you over the top if you don't have the man corners required to run that type of scheme. Buffalo plays a ton of bail coverage and typically he's the deep safety in cover 3, or they will have like a hybrid cover 4 where he's again covering the deep man. The only time you're getting a PD/INT is if they chuck one up deep, and teams don't do that because he has some solid ball skills. Safeties in schemes that play a lot more cover 1 will typically get better numbers, but then you're isolating your CBs on an island, and you will give up deep balls - as well as get gashed by deep overs and rub routes. Buffalo doesn't have the corners to play that style, nor do i think that mcdermott wants to. Great post and really agree man.
Seasons1992 Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: She's a little weak in the running game. SEE? This is what I'm talking about! Darn negative Bills fans! 😆
CardinalScotts Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 you want him to be jamal adams and he's not that type of player......he's a good player who makes sure we are where we are supposed to be......alot of these rushing totals - check the league the average per carry is ridiculous - lack of camp, preseason and tackling its really poor. I said it would be sloppy tackling til mid October
Big C Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 I agree and while we are at it we should put Dion Dawkins on notice too. Yards/Reception stats: 2018: 7.0 2019: 1.0 2020: N/A Talk about rapid decline! 1
GreggTX Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 Let's bring in Dr. Jekyll to replace him.
JohnNord Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 I’m not seeing any evidence statistically or otherwise that he’s fallen off. In fact Hyde and Poyer are probably the strength of the Bills defense. Has he dropped off a little? Maybe but I don’t think it’s a concern. You should be concerned for the Bills D-line and LB’s
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 I'm really confused by the number of people who feel like we're not allowed to talk about areas for improvement just because we won. Having said that, this is a weak argument.
Lurker Posted September 28, 2020 Posted September 28, 2020 Stats are for losers or PFF (one in the same, actually). Hyde is doing fine...
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